Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-11-17, Rafa Griman wrote: Hi :) On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: Even that doesn't appeal to me, but looking at the number of facebook and twitter users, it probably would appeal to many. I agree. That's why I think it

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2012-11-18, Duncan wrote: I read something from one of the kde devs, I'm not sure where or which dev, but... They mentioned that the reason the semantic desktop stuff got as BIG a push as it did, back with early kde4, was that one of the European governments had sponsored the

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2012-11-18, Duncan wrote: It ends up being a distro QA issue, but really, the problem is above the distro. I've seen at least one kde dev mention that had they known about mysql when they chose it as the first stable backend, what they know about it now, the choice may well have

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Georg C. F. Greve
On Sunday 18 November 2012 11.52:58 Kevin Krammer wrote: Virtuoso would be a very obvious choice for an Akonadi setup running as part of a KDE setup, however when last tried it or rather its SQL driver still wasn't up to the job. On a totally non-technical point: With virtuoso being

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2012-11-18, Martin (KDE) wrote: Am 18.11.2012 11:52, schrieb Kevin Krammer: If a switch in default backend would have to propagate to the user installations, this would require some changes in the user home directories as well (moving stuff from one database to another). I am

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Martin (KDE)
Am 18.11.2012 20:05, schrieb Kevin Krammer: On Sunday, 2012-11-18, Martin (KDE) wrote: Am 18.11.2012 11:52, schrieb Kevin Krammer: If a switch in default backend would have to propagate to the user installations, this would require some changes in the user home directories as well (moving

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2012-11-18, Martin (KDE) wrote: Am 18.11.2012 20:05, schrieb Kevin Krammer: On Sunday, 2012-11-18, Martin (KDE) wrote: What do I have to migrate then? For example there could be data that has not yet been written to its backend. That would be the case if Akonadi is shut

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-17 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/11/2012 09:16, Rafa Griman wrote: Well Duncan, I agree with you in that there are two types of people, that I _don't_ like the semantic desktop and I'm also a Gentoo user (and Archer). But, IMHO, the devs could have made it possible to

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 17 November 2012 07:00:27 Anne Wilson did opine: On 17/11/2012 09:16, Rafa Griman wrote: Well Duncan, I agree with you in that there are two types of people, that I _don't_ like the semantic desktop and I'm also a Gentoo user (and Archer). But, IMHO, the devs could have made it

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-17 Thread Jerome Yuzyk
On Friday, November 16, 2012 11:33:04 PM Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Jerome Yuzyk posted on Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:23:50 -0700 as excerpted: So what's happening with this grand vision? My honest opinion? In general, it's a tool for those that really aren't comfortable with

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-11-17, Jerome Yuzyk wrote: With all the hassles added by Akonadi and Nepomuk and Strigi for some higher social/semantic desktop purpose, does anyone actually _use_ the stuff? Ok, this is basically the second part of [1] Similar to how Strigi is tasked with providing meta

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-17 Thread Rafa Griman
Hi :) On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/11/2012 09:16, Rafa Griman wrote: Well Duncan, I agree with you in that there are two types of people, that I _don't_ like the semantic desktop and I'm

Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone?

2012-11-17 Thread Duncan
Martin Bednar posted on Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:13:58 +0100 as excerpted: Le samedi 17 novembre 2012 16:30:05 Duncan a écrit : Kevin Krammer posted on Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:29:22 +0100 as excerpted: On Saturday, 2012-11-17, Jerome Yuzyk wrote: With all the hassles added by Akonadi and Nepomuk and