[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-27 Thread Duncan
Anne Wilson posted on Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:44:25 +0100 as excerpted: On Sunday, July 24, 2011 03:11:45 PM Duncan wrote: That leaves the gtk-based sylpheed and the claws project that started as a developer testing branch of sylpheed, but grew into its own project. Claws actually looks to be my

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Kevin Krammer wrote: On Saturday, 2011-07-23, Alex Schuster wrote: I still have to do keyboard shortcuts, toolbars, and migrate my local mail folders. What might be the difference between the 'KMail-Maildir' and the 'Maildir' resources? The first one can deal with KMail's mixed tree,

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-26 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:53:21 +0200 as excerpted: Oh, and do others here also store sensible things like my online banking PIN in the wallet? Or is this considered too risky? Are there possible security problems with this? I store such things in kwallet, yes, for my home

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Duncan writes: Alex Schuster posted on Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:53:21 +0200 as excerpted: Oh, and do others here also store sensible things like my online banking PIN in the wallet? Or is this considered too risky? Are there possible security problems with this? I store such things in

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-26 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:17:23 +0200 as excerpted: Isn't the wallet secured by strong encryption? Without actually verifying, I believe that I've read that it is. However, that doesn't mean everything else that might need to be private, is likewise encrypted. Consider

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-25 Thread Alex Schuster
Restoring the .kde4/share/config directory from backups did not help. But I saw lots of stuff like kdeinit4 / knotify4 processes, and then I finally did what I never did before in such cases: I rebooted. And things are working again now. Wonko

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-24 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:30:04 + as excerpted: Given all the kmail/akonadi issues we've discussed, it'd be rather ironic if I eventually dropped kmail not because of operational issues with it, but rather, because it forced semantic-desktop on for all of kde! But at present,

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday, July 24, 2011 03:11:45 PM Duncan wrote: That leaves the gtk-based sylpheed and the claws project that started as a developer testing branch of sylpheed, but grew into its own project. Claws actually looks to be my best alternative at this point, with lots of plugins in the

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-23 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: Removing .kde4 now. Let's see what happens. I'm back. I removed the whole .kde4 directory, and copied back my Akregator and Kopete settings only. First I forgot to also delete Akonadi's settings. And when I did so, I only deleted .local/share/akonadi, but forgot .config/akonadi, so I

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-23 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:11:20 +0200 as excerpted: The system was running at 100% for the whole night, nepomukservices was using 70% of one of my two cores, accumulating nine hours of CPU time. virtuoso_t consumed around 45%. Strigi is disabled. Logging out took 1-2

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-23 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:58:55 + as excerpted: Duncan posted on Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:39:33 + as excerpted: Maybe when 4.7 release comes out (the ebuilds are already in the overlay), I'll try USE=-semantic-desktop again and see how far I get... ... Actually just tried

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-23 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:30:04 + as excerpted: Nearly all the semantic-desktop flags are equality-conditional on the setting of that flag for kdelibs. So kmail's requiring it in kdepimlibs, which requires it in kdelibs, which then forces pretty much everything else with the

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-22 Thread Alex Schuster
Duncan writes: Alex Schuster posted on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:07:33 +0200 as excerpted: Duncan writes: I've been very happy with 4.6.95 (4.7-rc2). There was one hiccup but I couldn't reproduce it. But 4.6.95 has certainly been as stable as a release version here, and in fact, I'm happier

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-22 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:09:43 +0200 as excerpted: Meanwhile, I /have/ noticed that kded, etc, occasionally don't die when I logout of kde as my user, when I'd expect them to. That usually doesn't cause much issue, tho I've configured a kde-shutdown script to shut down

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-21 Thread J
Greetings, -Original Message- From: Alex Schuster [mailto:wo...@wonkology.org] PIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions Indeed, ready for use means to me I could do online banking with it. Hmm, I always do online banking with Konqueror. Have done so for years. I always get warnings about

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday, July 21, 2011 03:07:33 PM Alex Schuster wrote: I'm using GStreamer, and Xine is also on the list. I think I read one is deprecated and the other should be used, but I do not remember which was which. And now that you mention phonon-vlc, I remember reading somewhere about it

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:30:53 PM Kevin Krammer wrote: So for those of us that use on-line IMAP, do we continue to do so? And what exactly happens during migration? Is it simply Akonadi indexing for want of a better word all our stored IMAP mail? Online IMAP will work similar to

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-21 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:07:33 +0200 as excerpted: Duncan writes: Alex Schuster posted on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:27:59 +0200 as excerpted: Then there's kded4 and knotify4, I often have two of those processes running and eating all CPU time until I kill them, this happens

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 03:05:29 AM Duncan wrote: I thought there were some extensions to make [firefox feeds] work better. But then Firefox is the wrong application maybe, I hadn't thought of that. If I give up on akonadi, I'll have to take a look. Have you tried liferea? I used

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-20 Thread Duncan
Anne Wilson posted on Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:16:08 +0100 as excerpted: On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 03:05:29 AM Duncan wrote: I thought there were some extensions to make [firefox feeds] work better. But then Firefox is the wrong application maybe, I hadn't thought of that. If I give up on

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-20 Thread Alex Schuster
Anne Wilson writes: On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 03:05:29 AM Duncan wrote: I thought there were some extensions to make [firefox feeds] work better. But then Firefox is the wrong application maybe, I hadn't thought of that. If I give up on akonadi, I'll have to take a look. Have

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-20 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2011-07-19, Alex Schuster wrote: I waited for over a year until I started filing the first KDE4 bug. There were so many, and I thought filing them would not be necessary, as the KDE developers just have to start the applications for themselves and then they'll see. Unfortunately

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-20 Thread Alex Schuster
Kevin Krammer writes: On Tuesday, 2011-07-19, Alex Schuster wrote: I waited for over a year until I started filing the first KDE4 bug. There were so many, and I thought filing them would not be necessary, as the KDE developers just have to start the applications for themselves and then

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-19 Thread Alex Schuster
Kevin Krammer writes: On Thursday, 2011-07-07, Alex Schuster wrote: Sometimes I get notifications like this from my IMAP server: server: Saving failed, server replied: A015537 BAD Invalid system flag \RECENT. Following up on this in particular. Seems this is caused by the IMAP resource

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-19 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:27:59 +0200 as excerpted: I'm also waiting for 4.7. And I hope that some things get more stable. At this moment, I am so close before dropping KDE4, I'm already looking for cool alternatives, but my little experience with Enlightemnent (0.17)

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-14 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:36:06 +0200 as excerpted: Duncan writes: Alex Schuster posted on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:20:50 +0200 as excerpted: Oh, these newsticker applets. But I had forgotten that kde4 even /had/ a knewsticker for awhile, then it simply went away at some

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Duncan writes: Alex Schuster posted on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:09:32 +0200 as excerpted: Duncan writes: I only used KMail for a long time, but then I gave Akregator a try, and I liked it. And so I thought why not, and started using the whole Kontact suite. FWIW, akregator still feels a bit

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-13 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: And then I logged out, mainly because kwin was using 500M of memory, and usually weird things start happening then. When logging in, KDE did not come up. The splash screen stayed for longer than normal, then the screen went black, and stayed like this. Going black is normal, KDE

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-13 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: It's not an Akonadi problem, this started right with KDE 4.6.5. It's a GUI problem, the little KNotes icon in the system tray simply no longer reacts to left mouse clicks. Same goes for Klipper. I found this out when I wanted to view the [...] Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-13 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:20:50 +0200 as excerpted: Oh, these newsticker applets. The KDE4 one didn't do anything when I tried (a long time ago), but I don't like them anyway, they tend to distract me. I got used to it after awhile... But I had forgotten that kde4 even

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-07 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2011-07-07, Alex Schuster wrote: I wanted to see if distribution lists work with the new Kontact - they did not with the old one, a mail to TESTGROUP would not go to the email addresses of this group's members, but TESTGROUP@myserver.mydomain. But when I open the address book and

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-06 Thread Alex Schuster
A little update on the KDEPIM situation. Kontact sort of works now, but it feels slower than before. Even changing between Kontact's different modules is slower now. I think about not using Kontact at all, but its individual components, with their windows grouped together (a really cool feature

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-06 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:33:56 +0200 as excerpted: A little update on the KDEPIM situation. Kontact sort of works now, but it feels slower than before. Even changing between Kontact's different modules is slower now. I think about not using Kontact at all, but its

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-02 Thread Alex Schuster
Kevin Krammer writes: On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Alex Schuster wrote: Kevin Krammer writes: On Tuesday, 2011-06-28, Alex Schuster wrote: BTW, I have lots of resources named akonadi_ical_resource_0 to akonadi_ical_resource_20 (only number 19 is missing), all with no file name selected.

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-02 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:55:01 +0200 as excerpted: Kevin Krammer writes: On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Alex Schuster wrote: Kevin Krammer writes: On Tuesday, 2011-06-28, Alex Schuster wrote: BTW, I have lots of resources named akonadi_ical_resource_0 to

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-01 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2011-06-30, Duncan wrote: Kevin Krammer posted on Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:00:45 +0200 as excerpted: It is just weird that this would be introduced now since the move to Akonadi is also about decoupling applications from some of their low level functionality, so e.g. KOrganizer can

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-07-01 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:19:59 +0200 as excerpted: [Duncan wrote...] (every time a mail comes in, I get a warning about two copies...[)] I don't have a bug number at hand but I think this is a know one. Something triggering the change collision detection when there is

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: Kevin Krammer posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:53:11 +0200 as excerpted: On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: Here, I don't use the kontact suite (nor have kontact itself installed) at all, only some of the separate bits. No korganizer, tho it was a

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: John Layt posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:39:40 +0100 as excerpted: On Wednesday 29 Jun 2011 18:40:32 Jerome Yuzyk wrote: All this talk about trashed mail and such isn't very encouraging. Is there somewhere that explains what changes are afoot for this

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Alex Schuster wrote: Kevin Krammer writes: On Tuesday, 2011-06-28, Alex Schuster wrote: BTW, I have lots of resources named akonadi_ical_resource_0 to akonadi_ical_resource_20 (only number 19 is missing), all with no file name selected. You can delete those

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: The interesting thing about the log found in that dir, here, is that it lists the account migration, mostly pop3 but with one sysmail maildir account, but *NOT* the actual mail migration. Which matches my experience, it auto-migrated the accounts but

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-30 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:00:45 +0200 as excerpted: On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: Kevin Krammer posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:53:11 +0200 as excerpted: On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: No korganizer, tho it was a forced install with the update Sounds

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-30 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:24:05 +0200 as excerpted: On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: The interesting thing about the log found in that dir, here, is that it lists the account migration, mostly pop3 but with one sysmail maildir account, but *NOT* the actual mail

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Kevin Krammer
Hi Alex, On Tuesday, 2011-06-28, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! I did the big KDE 4.6.3 - 4.6.4 upgrade. Along came the change to KDEPIM 4.6. I feared for the worst, and indeed, it didn't work too well. Ah, sorry to hear that. Most distributions have fortunately not put the new PIM into the

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2011-06-29, Duncan wrote: Alex Schuster posted on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:24:58 +0200 as excerpted: I did the big KDE 4.6.3 - 4.6.4 upgrade. Along came the change to KDEPIM 4.6. I feared for the worst, and indeed, it didn't work too well. Your experience mirrors mine to a large

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Jerome Yuzyk
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 02:16:57 AM Kevin Krammer kevin.kram...@gmx.at wrote: Hi Alex, On Tuesday, 2011-06-28, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! I did the big KDE 4.6.3 - 4.6.4 upgrade. Along came the change to KDEPIM 4.6. I feared for the worst, and indeed, it didn't work too

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:16:57 +0200 as excerpted: Ah, sorry to hear that. Most distributions have fortunately not put the new PIM into the normal repositories yet but kept it in experiemental ones for early adopters. FWIW, kdepim 4.6.0 (and thus the new kmail) is in the

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Duncan
Jerome Yuzyk posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:40:32 -0600 as excerpted: All this talk about trashed mail and such isn't very encouraging. Is there somewhere that explains what changes are afoot for this new release? Right now it sounds like KMail is going to some big binary blob for all my mails

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread John Layt
On Wednesday 29 Jun 2011 18:40:32 Jerome Yuzyk wrote: All this talk about trashed mail and such isn't very encouraging. Is there somewhere that explains what changes are afoot for this new release? Right now it sounds like KMail is going to some big binary blob for all my mails a la Outlook,

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Kevin Krammer writes: On Tuesday, 2011-06-28, Alex Schuster wrote: I did the big KDE 4.6.3 - 4.6.4 upgrade. Along came the change to KDEPIM 4.6. I feared for the worst, and indeed, it didn't work too well. Ah, sorry to hear that. Most distributions have fortunately not put the new PIM

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread John Layt
On Wednesday 29 Jun 2011 20:59:30 Alex Schuster wrote: I had upgraded to KDEPIM 4.6 in February already, when it had been unmasked accidentally for a day or so, and I also had lots of problems. Fortunately, after the downgrade all was fine again. Ah, I wonder if that's the problem? Did you

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:53:11 +0200 as excerpted: I expected you might reply to this, Kevin, as I know you're around and worked on trying to get it working right. No personal offense intended, of course, I just reported my experience. But I'm glad someone is investigating.

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Duncan writes: Alex Schuster posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:59:30 +0200 as excerpted: The mail migration part should have written its output to a file as well, check $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail-migrator Good idea to save this, although a notice box telling me would have been nice. But

[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions

2011-06-28 Thread Duncan
Alex Schuster posted on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:24:58 +0200 as excerpted: I did the big KDE 4.6.3 - 4.6.4 upgrade. Along came the change to KDEPIM 4.6. I feared for the worst, and indeed, it didn't work too well. Your experience mirrors mine to a large extent. AFAIK we're both on Gentoo. Put it