[plasmashell] [Bug 341143] Wallpaper on every desktop is gone.

[Postix]

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[Gerry Makaro aka Fraser_Bell]

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--- Comment #315 from Gerry Makaro aka Fraser_Bell  
---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #314)
> You don't close an open bug just because it hasn't gotten implemented yet
> and people are frustrated by this. If you want the honest truth, here it is:
> 
> We know that this is an irritation and we do want to fix it. However doing
> so requires untangling some of the code  behind the Activities feature,
> which is where per/workspace wallpapers got moved to during a prior Plasma
> version. We understand how that this was probably a mistake, and that
> Activities unfortunately never got the proper support and took off like we'd
> hoped, and we want to merge the functionality of Activities back into
> Virtual Desktops, possibly under the new umbrella name "Workspaces" or
> something like that. This merge would result in the feature having both the
> features of Virtual Desktops and also Activities. We discussed this a lot at
> Akademy 2018 but the work got delayed by other matters, sorry about that. We
> hope to pick it up again, and in either case it's a requirement before we
> can call Wayland done (which takes on an elevated level of importance now
> that it's been selected as a community goal).
> 
> It's super duper frustrating to have to wait so long. I understand and
> sympathize. I'm going to have to ask for a bit more patience though, because
> we want to fix this in the right way, which takes a bit longer than just
> hacking it back in quickly.

Okay, now this is a very good explanation of what is going on.  So, once this
gets worked out, the feature will be back in some future version of the
desktop.

Explanations like this and a "Where we're at ..." post on occasion would help
mitigate some of the frustration, I think.

Thanks

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[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #314 from Nate Graham  ---
You don't close an open bug just because it hasn't gotten implemented yet and
people are frustrated by this. If you want the honest truth, here it is:

We know that this is an irritation and we do want to fix it. However doing so
requires untangling some of the code  behind the Activities feature, which is
where per/workspace wallpapers got moved to during a prior Plasma version. We
understand how that this was probably a mistake, and that Activities
unfortunately never got the proper support and took off like we'd hoped, and we
want to merge the functionality of Activities back into Virtual Desktops,
possibly under the new umbrella name "Workspaces" or something like that. This
merge would result in the feature having both the features of Virtual Desktops
and also Activities. We discussed this a lot at Akademy 2018 but the work got
delayed by other matters, sorry about that. We hope to pick it up again, and in
either case it's a requirement before we can call Wayland done (which takes on
an elevated level of importance now that it's been selected as a community
goal).

It's super duper frustrating to have to wait so long. I understand and
sympathize. I'm going to have to ask for a bit more patience though, because we
want to fix this in the right way, which takes a bit longer than just hacking
it back in quickly.

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--- Comment #313 from aschn...@gmx.net ---
KDE Plasma 5.16.90 Released and still no sign of different Wallpapers. 
But "Wallpaper slideshows can now have user-chosen ordering rather than always
being random." Very nice.
@Nate Graham: Hey, Nate, why don't you be honest and close this bug as "Will
not be fixed"? After more than 5 years nothing will happen anyway.

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[michel]

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--- Comment #312 from michel  ---
Hi,

well, KDE-/Plasma-Developers seem to really have forgotten us - as i mentioned
earlier...

"Featuritis" seems to be the new slogan, instead of for example
user-friendlyness.

David Edmundson wrote this a quarter Year earlier and his statement did not
expect anything good...

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--- Comment #311 from aschn...@gmx.net ---
(In reply to michel from comment #307)
> (In reply to aschne15 from comment #305)
> > (In reply to michel from comment #303)
> > ...
> 
>  and we get it much later? A status about this topic would be
> > nice.
> ...
> 
> Perhaps they do it like some dubious insurance-companies, which wait with
> settling of damage cases, until the clients are died...

Yeah, you could be right. Today it's exactly 4.5 Years since this bug was
reported. I was 49, now im 54 :)

As time goes by...

After the End of the Kubuntu LTS Version 14.04 I'm now working with lxde (it
can display different wallpapers on different desktops)

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[michel]

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--- Comment #310 from michel  ---
"Daniel Morris 2019-02-13 09:22:08 UTC
...
With Plasma being so elegant
..."


This cannot be said loud enough!

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[Daniel Morris]

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--- Comment #309 from Daniel Morris  ---
David, thanks for the update. Great to see this feature is being worked on and
an insight into the complexity. With Plasma being so elegant, its really easy
to overlook how much is going on, and what a great sustained job KDE devs do to
present the mirage on our screens. Thank you.

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[David Edmundson]

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--- Comment #308 from David Edmundson  ---
As an update:

In the many threads about the design of virtual desktops on wayland - there's
been a lot of movement to get a unique ID assigned to virtual desktops so that
we can then use that for the tie-in with plasmashell. 

There has also been a lot of planning on how to remove the duplication and
crossovers between activities and virtual desktops. The end result effectively
being that activities will manage virtual desktops. Windows won't be on an N
activities and N VDs, but will be on N virtual desktops which implies the
activity. 
Something not possible whilst keeping compatibility with the X standard for VDs
and having the same cardinality.

That's the case and VDs on wayland has just been implemented. Plasma does not
yet take advantage of this. I can't put a date on that.

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[michel]

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--- Comment #307 from michel  ---
(In reply to aschne15 from comment #305)
> (In reply to michel from comment #303)
> ...

 and we get it much later? A status about this topic would be
> nice.
...

Perhaps they do it like some dubious insurance-companies, which wait with
settling of damage cases, until the clients are died...

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[Christoph Feck]

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--- Comment #306 from Christoph Feck  ---
You are not forced to use activities, see e.g. comment #276.

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--- Comment #305 from aschn...@gmx.net ---
(In reply to michel from comment #303)
More and more I get the impression, that it's like the marketing gobbledygook
of Creative, when their MP3-Player buyers asked for the functionality to use
their MP3 Players as USB-Drives too. 
To keep the buyers at it, they told on their Website: "Yes this will come!" 
That was 2002. And it's still not there. BTW: does Creative still sell
MP3-Players?
@Nate Graham: or am I to negative or was the announcement too early
(2018-10-21) and we get it much later? A status about this topic would be nice.
Just to keep in mind: in April ends the support for the 14.04 LTS Version of
Kubuntu, but as long as the kde-developers try to force me to use activities, I
will use KDE4. Though not for Internet Activities, of course ;)

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[edpil02]

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--- Comment #304 from edpil02  ---
(In reply to michel from comment #303)
> Hi all,
> 
> "the process of scoping out" seems to hibernate. let's hope, that he can
> remember us, when he wakes up...
> 
> ...and informs us a little about it's status.

Virtual desktops are rewritten and seems to be merged with activities in plasma
5.15 but only for wayland.
Ill make a try soon with plasma-5.15 beta.
Sorry for my english.

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[michel]

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--- Comment #303 from michel  ---
Hi all,

"the process of scoping out" seems to hibernate. let's hope, that he can
remember us, when he wakes up...

...and informs us a little about it's status.

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[Antonio Rojas]

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--- Comment #302 from Antonio Rojas  ---
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[Luigi Toscano]

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--- Comment #300 from Luigi Toscano  ---
*** Bug 371714 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #299 from Nate Graham  ---
For what it's worth, We're in the process of scoping out how to collapse
Activities into the existing Virtual Desktops feature (without losing any
features), which will restore the ability to set a different wallpaper per
virtual desktop. So it's coming, not to worry!

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[Giorgos Kostopoulos .]

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--- Comment #298 from Giorgos Kostopoulos.  ---
There are people who believe that the current KDE version (5), acts like a
short of Trojan horse, in order to lure its users to a mobile-like interface.

At least, (at my opinion) that's what the author implies at the article from
2014 at arstechnica:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/kde-plasma-5-for-those-linux-users-undecided-on-the-kernels-future/

Notice the paragraph : "KDE is attempting to do something no other desktop in
Linux has tried to date—move toward the tablet and mobile device future".

Sad but true? :-)
Well...at Linux we always have alternative solutions (as we already discussed).

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[michel]

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--- Comment #297 from michel  ---
That's right.

What a shame, that KDE-Developers think different and are not interested in
users opinions but in their own interests.

I remember in other KDE-Times...

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--- Comment #296 from wraithm...@myself.com ---
(In reply to michel from comment #295)
> Thanks a lot for the hint about Trinity DE. As i know KDE3.5 from earlier
> times and have only good memories about, today i installed it and -voila-
> this will be my "new" Desktop, until the developers of the KDE5-Desktop wake
> up and remember to the old, still developed wheels from earlier
> KDE-Versions, wo are not turning in KDE5...
> 
> May be they then notice, that there are a remarkable lot of users, who wish
> these features in their actual desktop KDE5 without using magic-tricks or
> making detours etc.

Well said. 
I changed to Trinity Desktop a while ago, & at least the developers there seems
to take note of what users want. So I'm happy to donate to the project.

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[michel]

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--- Comment #295 from michel  ---
Thanks a lot for the hint about Trinity DE. As i know KDE3.5 from earlier times
and have only good memories about, today i installed it and -voila- this will
be my "new" Desktop, until the developers of the KDE5-Desktop wake up and
remember to the old, still developed wheels from earlier KDE-Versions, wo are
not turning in KDE5...

May be they then notice, that there are a remarkable lot of users, who wish
these features in their actual desktop KDE5 without using magic-tricks or
making detours etc.

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--- Comment #294 from Giorgos Kostopoulos.  ---
@undecidable:

Indeed, switching to a different desktop (as you suggested) is a viable
solution (preferably a lightweight one), since you can use a stable desktop
with KDE apps.

I didn't try Xfce recently (since I'm a KDE user for ages), but I'll give it a
try.
Meanwhile, you can also, always give Trinity DE a try.
Older users among us (who was using KDE3), will find the interface familiar.
Some kind of deja vu maybe? :-)

As much as I like KDE5 bells and whistles, it's a kind of Alpha quality, ~
after 4 years of it's initial release! :-(

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[undecidable]

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--- Comment #293 from undecidable  ---
ok, have now moved multiple machines and VMs to Xubuntu 18.04.
In fact is not that painful and works well.

I have created a HowTo to help others who want to efficiently make the
transition without wasting time on dead ends.

The key issues that need to be addressed in moving:
a. Xfce apps are mostly too basic.
b. Configuration is more difficult but you waste less time wrestling with stuff
you don't want.

Four key points:
1. You can take many Kde apps to Xubuntu
2. Some kde apps can be replaced by gtk apps that are as good or better
3. Some kde apps can be replaced by desktop independent apps that are better or
much better
4. Xfce is quite configurable, but it takes longer, but you waste less time on
stuff you don't want

thread is here:
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2400715

Hope this helps others.

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[michel]

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--- Comment #292 from michel  ---
I use Linux and KDE since 2001 (with Suse7.1) as the only OS and
Desktop-Environment and was glad about the more and more increasing number of
features and stability. There was not everything made out of gold, what was
shining. But again and again a little bit waiting always helped... 

But the times change...

After OpenSuSE 13.1 (it was a great mistake from me, to change away from this
version with at least a perfect KDE4.14) and Leap42.2 I now arrived at Leap15.0
with KDE 5.12.5. But the since beginning of KDE5 disappeared wonderful feature
of differrent wallpapers for every desktop came almost still not back. Often
waiting helped solving problems. But not now. KDE's features decrease more and
more. Where will this end?

I don't want, that neither MS nor AXXle nor anything else decides, how my
desktop (and computer) has to work and to look like - this worked good in the
last years and was one of the main-reasons, why I changed to Linux long time
ago.

On the KDE-Website is written:"We have a strong focus on finding innovative
solutions to old and new problems". Well...

I really hope, that this long lasting old problem will finally find a happy
end! The wheel mustn't be invented new, it is still available (KDE4.14). Why
don't adapt and use it again?

Would be nice, if the developers would give a statement about this continuous
problem and how they think to solve it.

Excuse please for the bad English of an old man...

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[Dr . Chapatin]

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*** Bug 398120 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Nick]

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--- Comment #290 from Nick  ---
I just upgraded to opensuse 15.0 [ from leap 42.3 ]  .

Not impressed with the new 15.0 due to many issues with the new packages that
point to the same old / unsolved  messages that are kept from one upgrade to
the next . 
It seems that  the  "automated" QA is very good at forgetting the users as well
as the regression testing .

I was one of the users affected by the KDE "enhancement"  of removing the "good
old"   option of having wallpaper on every desktop .
Before starting the upgrade to 15.0, some opensuse doc was recommending to
switch to sddm .
With that occasion I installed the Vallpaper 1.1.12  from KDE store .

It does exactly what KDE developers  removed 3-4 releases ago .

Now I can say that for more than 4-5 weeks I am back to enjoying/using the
good-old option of different wallpapers 

Vallpaper  is doing that !

Please give Vallpaper 1.1.2 a try and if you are happy  with it  add a comment
to this bug . 

Maybe the KDE developers will become more sensitive to the users's concerns
rather than justifying over-and-over-and-over again why they  nix their users . 

Good Luck !!!

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--- Comment #289 from loop...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Daniel Morris from comment #288)
> Argh! Disappeared for openSUSE Leap (15.0) too. 
> 
> I can manage without per desktop wallpaper, but removing per desktop widgets
> & links is a nuisance. I've tried to adjust to Activities over the years,
> but failed.

Please check my reply for the fix
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143#c271

Check this video for the results:
https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=ZrP3e_LjAhA

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--- Comment #288 from Daniel Morris  ---
Argh! Disappeared for openSUSE Leap (15.0) too. 

I can manage without per desktop wallpaper, but removing per desktop widgets &
links is a nuisance. I've tried to adjust to Activities over the years, but
failed.

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[Bill Michaelson]

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--- Comment #287 from Bill Michaelson  ---
(In reply to abrahams from comment #286)
> The fact that there are 285 comments so far should be significant in
> evaluating the importance of the "different wallpapers" feature.
> 
> Merging activities and virtual desktops is fine with me -- provided that
> there's a way to ignore the activities and just use virtual desktops,
> perhaps by having a single activity whose existence can be ignored.

 - Maddening.  I've rolled with the punches, grudgingly.  But
historically, I've seen multiple regressions of functionality forced on users
with new versions, and a dismissive attitude regarding impact.

Now I've adapted to using both activities and multiple desktops.  I can only
pray that this "merge" will be elegant enough such that I won't feel like I'm
getting smacked in the head.  Again.

There is a word.

Stability.

It's a thing.  It's good.

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--- Comment #286 from abrah...@acm.org ---
The fact that there are 285 comments so far should be significant in evaluating
the importance of the "different wallpapers" feature.

Merging activities and virtual desktops is fine with me -- provided that
there's a way to ignore the activities and just use virtual desktops, perhaps
by having a single activity whose existence can be ignored.

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--- Comment #285 from edpil02  ---
I've seen in plasma-devel lists that virtual destops are beeing rewritten,
and several proposals for merging activities and virtual desktops.
So seem's that plasma devs are working on this bug and thank's to them.
Sorry for my english.

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[Bill Michaelson]

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--- Comment #284 from Bill Michaelson  ---
(In reply to J.G. from comment #283)
> Unbelievable!!! Just formated and Installed Kubuntu 18.04 from 17.XX to find
> out that different wallpaper and also different widgets in each desktop is
> gone!!!
> 
> This makes my desktop almost unusable! 
> 
> COME ON!!! People are adding futures not removing them!!! I have to
> downgrade and stay there until you get it back... or, I have to move to
> XFCE... Or is it time to check how Gnome is doing these days...
> 
> WHY WHY WHY???

It's been gone for quite some time, and unfortunately, developers have been
somewhat cavalier in dismissing laments of those who miss the feature.  I'm
particularly saddened by another regression: the loss of the ability to drag
window tabs and thus arbitrarily group windows together.  This has been
described as the consequence of some arcane coding issue, but IMO this type of
excuse for disabling a feature that was critical to my normal workflow reflects
badly on the project.  Pity because I like KDE and still use it.

When I mentioned on IRC that I was sticking to a prior release to avoid the
regressions, I was chided for using a version that is "unsupported."  I call
that irony.

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--- Comment #283 from J.G.  ---
Unbelievable!!! Just formated and Installed Kubuntu 18.04 from 17.XX to find
out that different wallpaper and also different widgets in each desktop is
gone!!!

This makes my desktop almost unusable! 

COME ON!!! People are adding futures not removing them!!! I have to downgrade
and stay there until you get it back... or, I have to move to XFCE... Or is it
time to check how Gnome is doing these days...

WHY WHY WHY???

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--- Comment #282 from undecidable  ---
(In reply to Rafael Kitover from comment #281)
> Vallpaper from store.kde.org does indeed solve this problem almost perfectly.
> 
> There is no need for the core to have every possible feature when extensions
> can supply them, gnome is the same way.

1.  This was a fundamental part of the desktop that was there for many years
(at least since 2008), and which had become part of many people's workflow, and
was removed.  That is not the same as adding a "feature".

2.  "store.kde.org" is not the repos.  I only install from the repos.  That way
my system is stable and lower maintenance.  Stability and low maintenance is
important to a certain class of users and a repos only policy helps that.

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--- Comment #281 from Rafael Kitover  ---
Vallpaper from store.kde.org does indeed solve this problem almost perfectly.

There is no need for the core to have every possible feature when extensions
can supply them, gnome is the same way.

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--- Comment #280 from Castro B  ---
(In reply to wraithmonk from comment #279)
> (In reply to undecidable from comment #277)
> > A sad day.
> > After using Kubuntu / KDE since 2007 (11 years),
> > and being an annual contributor to both the KDE and Kubuntu projects,
> >  at 18.04 I have moved to Xubuntu.
> >  
> >  One reason  alone:  different wallpaper per virtual desktop.
> >  I spend ~14 hours a day at my desktop 
> > and my desktop environment (see comment 192) is a fundamental part of my
> > intellectual day.
> >   
> >   I do definitely miss the beauty and power of KDE
> >   and the transition has really been a pain
> >   (though I took some kde tools - okular, kate, clementine, gwenview, kdiff3
> > etc with me).
> >   
> >  But I don't miss being forced to work the way someone else wants me to 
> > work.
> 
> Nor do I. I've switched to using Trinity DE. TDE is a fork of KDE 3.5 & you
> can
> have different wallpapers on different desktops, as well as having the usual
> KDE tools & sounds etc. TDE is available for Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.

Does this also available to windows or higher version of windows? Thanks

Carlo B.
https://amsterdamdiary.com/

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--- Comment #279 from wraithm...@myself.com ---
(In reply to undecidable from comment #277)
> A sad day.
> After using Kubuntu / KDE since 2007 (11 years),
> and being an annual contributor to both the KDE and Kubuntu projects,
>  at 18.04 I have moved to Xubuntu.
>  
>  One reason  alone:  different wallpaper per virtual desktop.
>  I spend ~14 hours a day at my desktop 
> and my desktop environment (see comment 192) is a fundamental part of my
> intellectual day.
>   
>   I do definitely miss the beauty and power of KDE
>   and the transition has really been a pain
>   (though I took some kde tools - okular, kate, clementine, gwenview, kdiff3
> etc with me).
>   
>  But I don't miss being forced to work the way someone else wants me to work.

Nor do I. I've switched to using Trinity DE. TDE is a fork of KDE 3.5 & you can
have different wallpapers on different desktops, as well as having the usual
KDE tools & sounds etc. TDE is available for Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.

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--- Comment #278 from Nick  ---
Greetings,  

Please have a look at Vallpaper  
[ https://store.kde.org/search?projectSearchText=Vallpaper  ]

Easy to install,
activated and configured  via Desktop Configuration
[ set up Walpapaer Type to Valpaper 1.1.2 ]  

I use a ,folder with 2-4 images  / virtual desktop and a time to change the
images 

IT WORKS !

ND

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--- Comment #277 from undecidable  ---
A sad day.
After using Kubuntu / KDE since 2007 (11 years),
and being an annual contributor to both the KDE and Kubuntu projects,
 at 18.04 I have moved to Xubuntu.

 One reason  alone:  different wallpaper per virtual desktop.
 I spend ~14 hours a day at my desktop 
and my desktop environment (see comment 192) is a fundamental part of my
intellectual day.

  I do definitely miss the beauty and power of KDE
  and the transition has really been a pain
  (though I took some kde tools - okular, kate, clementine, gwenview, kdiff3
etc with me).

 But I don't miss being forced to work the way someone else wants me to work.

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--- Comment #276 from Kott  ---
another 3d party solution: https://store.kde.org/p/1197828/
https://github.com/lehklu/Vallpaper

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Resetting status.

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--- Comment #274 from MEgg  ---
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hmm, a long thinking pause and then double post?

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--- Comment #272 from MEgg  ---
I have to correct my previous post:
when selecting a new activity/"work space" in the title bar, I have to deselect
the other one, which is a bit tedious.
Also I did not find a way to make a 2x2 switcher, it is always 4x1 such
taking a lot of space in the bar.

Will the KDE team correct anything here?

Otherwise: I am trying XFCE now and this looks better so if nothing changes
in KDE/Plasma desktop I will move on.
You get the used multiple Workspace there, can select background per workspace,
move windows to different workspace, all just as before afaics.

--- Comment #273 from MEgg  ---
I have to correct my previous post:
when selecting a new activity/"work space" in the title bar, I have to deselect
the other one, which is a bit tedious.
Also I did not find a way to make a 2x2 switcher, it is always 4x1 such
taking a lot of space in the bar.

Will the KDE team correct anything here?

Otherwise: I am trying XFCE now and this looks better so if nothing changes
in KDE/Plasma desktop I will move on.
You get the used multiple Workspace there, can select background per workspace,
move windows to different workspace, all just as before afaics.

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--- Comment #272 from MEgg  ---
I have to correct my previous post:
when selecting a new activity/"work space" in the title bar, I have to deselect
the other one, which is a bit tedious.
Also I did not find a way to make a 2x2 switcher, it is always 4x1 such
taking a lot of space in the bar.

Will the KDE team correct anything here?

Otherwise: I am trying XFCE now and this looks better so if nothing changes
in KDE/Plasma desktop I will move on.
You get the used multiple Workspace there, can select background per workspace,
move windows to different workspace, all just as before afaics.

--- Comment #273 from MEgg  ---
I have to correct my previous post:
when selecting a new activity/"work space" in the title bar, I have to deselect
the other one, which is a bit tedious.
Also I did not find a way to make a 2x2 switcher, it is always 4x1 such
taking a lot of space in the bar.

Will the KDE team correct anything here?

Otherwise: I am trying XFCE now and this looks better so if nothing changes
in KDE/Plasma desktop I will move on.
You get the used multiple Workspace there, can select background per workspace,
move windows to different workspace, all just as before afaics.

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--- Comment #271 from loop...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 112934
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=112934=edit
kwin script js to map desktops to activities. CHANGE activity ids to those you
get at step 3)

Finally succumbed to system updates and had to upgrade to kde 5*. As immagined,
this bug, which is among the most followed ones on this bug tracker, is still
here.

I managed somehow to emulate essentially the whole kde4 behavior, save for a
minor visual glitch while switching desktops. This is what I did:

---

Scope and features:
-Multiple virtual desktops with separate widgets and backgrounds
-Use of standard virtual desktops pager
-Moving windows to other virtual desktops through screen border, pager and key
shortcuts

How it works:
-there is a 1 to 1 mapping of activities an desktops
-each time a desktop changes, a kwin script changes the activity automatically
-windows are set to be in all activities, so a window can be moved while the
underlying activity changes

Issues:
-when switching desktops, especially first time in a session, there is a short
switch time between activities

How to do it:

1) Create the number of desktops you want
2) create the same number of activities
3) Get the ids of the created activities:
   $ qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities ListActivities
4) Create a kwin script that changes the activity of each desktop to a
different activity id. Check the attachment for an example. To learn how to
create a kwin script from a js file, check:
https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KWin/Scripting#Packaging_KWin_Scripts
5) Add the script in systemsettings->Window Management->Kwin Scripts
6) In systemsettings->Window Management->Window rules, add a new rule for all
windows, and in "Size" set "Activity" to "Apply Initially" and "All
activities"
-) Now you can setup each desktop as desired.

Todo:
Create an actual kwin script an upload it on the official website. I may do
this in a few days after some deadlines.

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--- Comment #270 from MEgg  ---
(In reply to Shriramana Sharma from comment #265)
> (In reply to MEgg from comment #264)
> > I found a reasonable way to do the former virtual desktop stuff with
> > activities.
> 
> One important thing that is missing from the activities hack is the ability
> to move a window to a desktop with a single click. With activities, I have
> to select the alternate activity and manually deselect the second one. This
> is because one window can belong to two activities but not to two desktops.
> I like the desktop behaviour as it is faster.

I am able to move a terminal window from one activity to another with the mouse
in the activity switcher.
Also the right click in the title bar -> Activities and selecting an activity
to move or show the terminal window in different activities works for me.
I am working with KDE Plasma 5.6. .
It is not clear to me what you mean with "move a window to a desktop with a
single click", this was also a double click or move window in Plasma 4.11 .

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--- Comment #269 from Lehmeier  ---
I hope so. Because that's how you sell your customers.

When is it coming? In version 7 or 8?

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--- Comment #268 from hum...@yahoo.fr ---
All the activities stuff is broken with plasma wayland so this bug can be
completely forgotten, the devs have to deal with bigger problem than just the
wallpaper but at the same time since the proposal is to merge the activities
and the virtual desktops perhaps they will solve our problem...

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--- Comment #267 from Lehmeier  ---
Since this already went under KDE 4, I am only surprised that such simple
things do not work anymore.
It was much easier in the old way of working as in the new - where you have to
use the activities.
Let's hope that the old way of working is possible again soon. To make it
easier again.

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--- Comment #266 from edpil02  ---
Word seem's to be done.

>From plasma 5.12 wayland issues :

 -No activities

Activities are probably not a must-have feature, but anyway this is annoying
--for those who got accustomed to them on X11.

-Virtual Desktops

We don't have an API yet for virtual desktops, so pager is not working


So activities seem's to be dropped on wayland.Good news ?
Sorry for my english.

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--- Comment #265 from Shriramana Sharma  ---
(In reply to MEgg from comment #264)
> I found a reasonable way to do the former virtual desktop stuff with
> activities.

One important thing that is missing from the activities hack is the ability to
move a window to a desktop with a single click. With activities, I have to
select the alternate activity and manually deselect the second one. This is
because one window can belong to two activities but not to two desktops. I like
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--- Comment #264 from MEgg  ---
Thx a lot to all posters.
I found a reasonable way to do the former virtual desktop stuff with
activities.
Only the 2 x 2 graphical display is missing, the activity switcher is 4 x 1 and
taking quite some space in the panel therefore.

But I can live with that for the time being.

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--- Comment #263 from Phil  ---
(In reply to Phil from comment #262)
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> "MEgg" there are at least a couple activity related "switchers", one is
> called "Activity Pager" that can be added to the panel or desktop. If you
> click the panel toolbar icon on the far right (used to be called "cashew"),
> then you can move panel icons and panels around including moving the
> "Activity Pager" to left side, which is what I have done. You can also
> change its settings in some nice ways too, and if you mouse scroll over
> that, it will rotate through the activities, or click one activity to go
> directly to that.

You can also right click your desktop and select "configure desktop", then
"mouse actions" change the vertical-scroll option to scroll through activities,
or change the middle button to change activities, etc...

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--- Comment #262 from Phil  ---
Hi Everyone,

"MEgg" there are at least a couple activity related "switchers", one is called
"Activity Pager" that can be added to the panel or desktop. If you click the
panel toolbar icon on the far right (used to be called "cashew"), then you can
move panel icons and panels around including moving the "Activity Pager" to
left side, which is what I have done. You can also change its settings in some
nice ways too, and if you mouse scroll over that, it will rotate through the
activities, or click one activity to go directly to that.

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--- Comment #261 from Dngrsone  ---
I never used the switcher; though I wouldn't be surprised if someone made one
for activities.

If you center-click on your mouse, though, there is an activity switching
dialog... well, in Mint 18.2 KDE at any rate.

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--- Comment #260 from MEgg  ---
(In reply to MEgg from comment #259)
> Found the Activity Pager Widget but this always appears on the right side of
> the panel and even by seleting it longer I cannot move it!
> 
> Can I position the widget in the panel? (I somehow remember that this was
> working
> in previous KDE versions)

Also solved that.

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--- Comment #259 from MEgg  ---
Found the Activity Pager Widget but this always appears on the right side of
the panel and even by seleting it longer I cannot move it!

Can I position the widget in the panel? (I somehow remember that this was
working
in previous KDE versions)

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--- Comment #258 from MEgg  ---
(In reply to Dngrsone from comment #257)
> MEgg,
[...]
> If you want to switch between Activities using your keyboard, use meta+Tab
> and meta+Shift+Tab. Or, as I did: a right-click on the desktop, go to
> Activities, and then Settings, and change these shortcuts to Ctrl+Alt+[Right
> arrow] and Ctrl+Alt+[Left arrow]. These are the commands I used to use back
> in the earlier times to page between Virtual Desktops.

Ok now I am able to switch activities with META-F9 and META-F10.
But what I am still missing: the display of the previsous virtual desktops in
the panel.
This was the simple 4 by 4 square, where I could simply see the current
selected virtual desktop.
Is there something similar with activities for the panel?

BR and thanks for the help

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--- Comment #257 from Dngrsone  ---
MEgg,

The instructions are in comment 214.  I can try to make it a little more
understandable, but it boils down to the reader having some understanding of
the workings of Linux and KDE:

1) Switch the pager from a Virtual Desktop (VD) to an Activity pager:
  - unlock the taskbar
  - right click on the pager
  - select the "Alternatives..." menu entry
  - click "Activity Pager" and then the "Switch" button
  => now the pager tracks activities
  While there, right click on the pager again, select "Activity Pager
Settings..." and configure to taste.

2) Move to a single Virtual Desktop, so each Activity = 1 VD = 1 screen
  - System Settings => Desktop Behavior => Virtual Desktops, reduce to 1.

3) Create as many activities as you need "screens" (same number as the qty of
   VDs you used to use);
  - System Settings => Desktop Behavior => Activities, create and name as
needed.
  Now you see the Activities in your pager, and from the pager point of view
  it's as before except activities replaced VDs.   

4) Enable the mouse wheel to switch between activities
  - Right click on the desktop background => Configure Desktop
  - Select the "Mouse Actions" tab
  - Item "Vertical-Scroll", select "Switch Activity"
  IMPORTANT: this setting is per activity. So you need to repeat this for all
  the created activities.

If you want to switch between Activities using your keyboard, use meta+Tab and
meta+Shift+Tab. Or, as I did: a right-click on the desktop, go to Activities,
and then Settings, and change these shortcuts to Ctrl+Alt+[Right arrow] and
Ctrl+Alt+[Left arrow]. These are the commands I used to use back in the earlier
times to page between Virtual Desktops.

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--- Comment #256 from MEgg  ---
The non working virtual desktops is a nightmare.

I did not find a useful description about replacing it with activities on the
internet, if there is something, that explains, how to replace the virtual
desktop concept with activities easily, please post.

I only read about workarounds like https://github.com/martenjj/wallpaperswitch
but I rather like it to work in KDE, as this was always an important feature
for me.

If this is a Won't fix, then I have to leave KDE and look for alternatives.

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[Shriramana Sharma]

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--- Comment #255 from Shriramana Sharma  ---
(In reply to Canoe from comment #253)
> What's the official stance on this bug now that a new plasmoid has been
> released that serves this purpose?
> 
> http://www.kdeblog.com/vallpaper-un-fondo-de-pantalla-diferente-para-
> escritorio.html

This does not work on Kubuntu Xenial and only Marten's app from comment #212
works. Huge thanks to Marten!

I needed to install the following packages on a fresh Kubuntu Xenial install to
compile Marten's script:

build-essential cmake extra-cmake-modules kio-dev libkf5configwidgets-dev
libkf5crash-dev libkf5iconthemes-dev libkf5notifications-dev
libkf5widgetsaddons-dev libkf5xmlgui-dev plasma-workspace-dev qtbase5-dev
qtdeclarative5-dev

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--- Comment #254 from loop...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Canoe from comment #253)
> What's the official stance on this bug now that a new plasmoid has been
> released that serves this purpose?
> 
> http://www.kdeblog.com/vallpaper-un-fondo-de-pantalla-diferente-para-
> escritorio.html

A commendable work, sadly, it only covers the least important portion of the
bug: wallpapers.

This problem actually impacts productivity due to the inability to set
different virtual desktop folders and widgets.

Personally it is blocking enough that I am still on kde 4.

Martin and David seemed interested in the beginning but afterwards it seems
they  vanished.

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[Canoe]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #253 from Canoe  ---
What's the official stance on this bug now that a new plasmoid has been
released that serves this purpose?

http://www.kdeblog.com/vallpaper-un-fondo-de-pantalla-diferente-para-escritorio.html

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[xoric]

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--- Comment #252 from xoric  ---
(In reply to Piotr Kloc from comment #251)
> Well, I've setup Debian VM to test it. After some errors and googling it
> compiled.
> 
> Here's what you need, in case of error just google bit ending with ".cmake"
> and add debian to it.
> 
+> g++
+> cmake
+> extra-cmake-modules
-> qt5base-dev
> qtdeclarative5-dev
> libkf5crash-dev
> libkf5dbusaddons-dev
> libkf5notifications-dev
> libkf5notifyconfig-dev
> gettext
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> I could have just googled how to compile KDE on Debian beforehand...
> https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Build_from_source/
> Install_the_dependencies

Thanks, it works. i used "metager", maybe this was the fault. the packages i
installed are marked with "+". The package with "-" don't exist (apt-get gives
error) I tried many other packages with "qt5quick", because of that i fail. Im
not programer and after 4 years as linuxuser, i learned every day from
beginning... :-)
for usage:
i have 2 monitors. in kde4 is no problem. wallpaperswitch needs extra large
wallpaper to show different picture in every monitor. at the moment this is ok.
Big thanks to Jonathan Martin for this part of software. I hope, kde will come
in future with the features of kde4.
"Back to the roots" this is why i love to work with linux.
honestly, for proffessional work i would not prefer kde. it is too instable. i
would prefer fluxbox: highly configurable, very hard stable (it survives two
dist-upgrades with no problems). the eye candy features of kde 4 (different
wallpaper to every Workspace and Monitor and 3d-effects) make it attractive to
me as average user.

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[Piotr Kloc]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #251 from Piotr Kloc  ---
(In reply to xoric from comment #250)
> Hello, i try to compile/install the application wallpaperswitch. but i can't
> compile the script. have somebody do it on debian9, known as stretch?
> i need help.
> thx to everybody who can tell me how to compile/install wallpaperswitch on
> stretch.
> 
> xoric

Well, I've setup Debian VM to test it. After some errors and googling it
compiled.

Here's what you need, in case of error just google bit ending with ".cmake" and
add debian to it.

g++
cmake
extra-cmake-modules
qt5base-dev
qtdeclarative5-dev
libkf5crash-dev
libkf5dbusaddons-dev
libkf5notifications-dev
libkf5notifyconfig-dev
gettext

Good luck.

I could have just googled how to compile KDE on Debian beforehand...
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Build_from_source/Install_the_dependencies

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[Murat]

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--- Comment #250 from Murat  ---
Hello, i try to compile/install the application wallpaperswitch. but i can't
compile the script. have somebody do it on debian9, known as stretch?
i need help.
thx to everybody who can tell me how to compile/install wallpaperswitch on
stretch.

xoric

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[John Andersen]

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--- Comment #249 from John Andersen  ---
(In reply to lorne schachter from comment #248)
> You've taken that away
> without a replacement.

There is a replacement.  See post 212 above 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143#c212

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--- Comment #248 from lorne schachter  ---
I have different wallpapers for different desktops (and different icons)
because it makes the system easier for me to move back and forth. The whole
idea behind KDE was not to make choices for users - Windows does that - but to
give them options to run the way they want.  You've taken that away without a
replacement.

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--- Comment #247 from hum...@yahoo.fr ---
Forget about that bug. It will be corrected in KDE6 perhaps. For the time being
I found the following workaround with the activites. 
I am using activities as virtual desktop and I put an activity pager settings
to have a fast view of what happens on each of them. I put that pager on a big
autohide panel so it us usable to see the different windows and moving them (I
use the new dock Latte for that it is much nicer).

I am still missing the corner which show all the desktop on a grid but at least
I was able to redo more or less my KDE4 workflow with plasma. I tried other DE
but KDE is still the one I prefer because of the configuration I still can do.

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[Roberto]

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--- Comment #246 from Roberto  ---
I'm not sure if this is going to be useful at all, but I actually used
activities and desktops combined, so I really lost functionality when all
desktops became equal.

I am a Data Analyst, and I usually create a separate activity for each project
I'm working on, plus a couple of general ones (communication, entertainment,
etc.). For the project-related ones, I usually have one desktop where I code,
one where I view graphics, one where I run background process and I used to
have different backgrounds and widgets for each of these. They were all
related, but definitely different for each desktop. The background was nice,
but the different widgets were really important, and those are gone.

I don't have the skills to help fix this problem, but I'd really appreciate to
have the functionality available in KDE 14 back. The workarounds suggested
don't match my use case.

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[John Andersen]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #245 from John Andersen  ---
Instead of posting yet more rambling rants and recipes for trying to make
activities work for this (most of which are unnecessarily complex and eliminate
other uses of activities) I encourage all to look into Post 212:
It simply works:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143#c212

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--- Comment #244 from David Edmundson  ---
*** Bug 378674 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #243 from Andreas K. Huettel  ---
Missing this feature as well. Please reconsider.

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[Ernie]

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--- Comment #242 from Ernie  ---
Well said
On Mar 6, 2017 3:37 PM, "Jay"  wrote:

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> --- Comment #241 from Jay  ---
> For all the good things in Plasma 5, they are worthless owing to the loss
> of
> ability to set different wallpaper for each virtual desktop.  That's how I
> keep
> track of which desktop I'm working in.  It greatly aided efficiency.
>
> Without this vital feature, I'm better off using XFCE because it boots two
> seconds faster and has fewer parts that kill the DE when things get messed
> up.
> I've always used XFCE to recover from fatal KDE errors.  Might as well use
> it
> for my DE.
>
> Thanks to the KDE team for the many years of wonderful Plasma pre-5.  I
> look
> forward to your new programs and features.  There are better DE's than
> Plasma
> when there's no wallpaper difference, especially when KDE's other great
> features are loaded into XFCE.
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[Jay]

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--- Comment #241 from Jay  ---
For all the good things in Plasma 5, they are worthless owing to the loss of
ability to set different wallpaper for each virtual desktop.  That's how I keep
track of which desktop I'm working in.  It greatly aided efficiency.

Without this vital feature, I'm better off using XFCE because it boots two
seconds faster and has fewer parts that kill the DE when things get messed up. 
I've always used XFCE to recover from fatal KDE errors.  Might as well use it
for my DE.

Thanks to the KDE team for the many years of wonderful Plasma pre-5.  I look
forward to your new programs and features.  There are better DE's than Plasma
when there's no wallpaper difference, especially when KDE's other great
features are loaded into XFCE.

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[Bernd Paysan]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #240 from Bernd Paysan  ---
Am Samstag, 4. März 2017, 09:59:16 CET schrieb David H. :
> I hope you see where I'm going with this. Activities and Virtual Desktops,
> while being similar in many ways, are most definitely *not* the same thing.

Actually, I think of virtual desktop as different "rooms" on my screen. This 
is, because a virtual desktop is spatially arranged, you go to the left, 
right, up or down from one desktop to the next. I usually have different 
activities on different desktops (not necessarily in the Plasma sense of 
"activity"), e.g. one desktop has shells and emacs, and is for programming, 
another desktop has Kontact and is for e-mail, the third desktop has Chromium, 
and is for browsing the web, the fourth has Digikam and is for processing 
photos. You get it. It's like the different rooms in your house's example.

If I need more shells in the programming desktop (and yes, I need), I open 
more windows and more tabs per Konsole window. If I need more websites in the 
web-browsing desktop, I open more tabs. That is analogous to your benches: 
They are in the same room, they are visible and available at the same time.

I liked KDE4's way to tie an activity to a virtual desktop, it made sense to 
also have different widgets in different virtual desktops (and especially 
different wallpapers to ease your orientation), and slide from one activity to 
the other just by pushing the mouse to the edge of the screen.

I think the only thing that's now missing to fix this bug is to configure the 
desktop edge and desktop scrollwheel action to slide between different 
activities instead of different virtual desktops. Everything else is already 
in place: We have an activity pager which can replace the virtual desktop 
pager, when we switch between activities, it does slide (though not always in 
the right direction, as the activity pager looks 2D, but the activities are 
actually arranged only in one direction, horizontally).

Your "thematically" vs. "spatially" is about the right way to think, but many 
of us separate thematically different things spatially. Like in your startup 
example: You have the garage for the workbenches (the "dirty" part of your 
startup), you have the working room with the computers, the living room for 
meetings (use the TV for presentations). You might also have a temporal 
relation, so in the evening, you change the way the rooms are used: The 
employees went home, and you can now use the TV in the living room as actual 
TV.

Perhaps this is what the original "activity" designers imagined: Instead of 
quickly walking from one room to the other, you rearrange the room, and use it 
for something else.

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[David H .]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #239 from David H.  ---
Analogy time. Please bear with me, I promise that this is directly related to
the bug report...

Imagine you start a home business, and you set up a workshop in your garage to
make or repair things. In that room you have a workbench, and on that bench you
keep your various tools and working projects. Business is good, and you soon
find yourself running out of space, so you set up a second bench near the
first. And on it you have more tools, some of them being duplicates of those on
the first bench, and others unique, so you can work on slightly different
things. But you can also use the two benches in tandem when you have a really
big project. Later on you add a third bench, and a fourth, and so on, to give
you even more workspace.

Now you also need an office to manage your business. That's in another room of
your house. And in that room you have a desk with a computer, in/out-trays,
pens and pencils, pads of paper, and other office supplies on it. As you become
more successful you also put in a couple more tables, bookshelves, and cabinets
and whatnot, each with its own collection of supplies, to help improve your
productivity there too.

In the rest of the house of course you also have a living area, with a TV,
sofa, and various other facilities for relaxing, a kitchen/dining room for
preparing food and eating it, a bedroom for sleeping, bathroom, whatever. Each
room has its own purpose and its own unique set of accoutrements for fulfilling
that purpose. And for the most part you keep each kind activity to its own
space. You seldom, but not never, transfer what you're doing from one room to
another.

I hope you see where I'm going with this. Activities and Virtual Desktops,
while being similar in many ways, are most definitely *not* the same thing.
They categorize your work in different conceptual ways. Activities are like the
various rooms, each focused *thematically* on a certain functional area. V.D.s
are like the tables, benches, counters and other workspaces inside those rooms.
They *spatially* organize the work you're doing and provide the actual tools
with which to complete the various tasks within each area of activity.

Now to apply this to the actual bug (and the proposed solutions and
workarounds), I think most people are overlooking this foundational conceptual
flaw that lies behind it -- the lack of recognition of the psychological
separation between function space and work space, the differences in how we
view them and react to them, and the differences in the work flows we set up
within and between them.

Activities and V.D.s perform complementary roles, not identical ones. Trying to
replace or duplicate the one with the other is like saying four workshops with
one bench each are basically the same thing as one workshop with four benches.
They're not. Even if you put them right next to each other, cut doors between
the rooms for easy access, and add pushcarts, conveyor belts, or whatever for
the easy moving of projects between them, it's just never going to sit quite
right in your mind or your behavior. You'd still be trying to fit a square peg
into a round hole. Even worse, it could be seen as trying to put a workbench in
your office, or an office desk in your workshop, or a toaster in your bathroom. 

Or say you do succeed in making the two experiences similar enough to not
notice the difference. Then what was the point in changing it in the first
place?


Anyway, to my mind an ideal KDE set-up would provide the following:

1. The ability to set up one or more Activities, each of which can be centered
around its own area of "business".

2. One or more Virtual Desktops inside each Activity, to provide the actual
work areas in which to operate within that Activity's scope.

3. Full, individual, customizability of each Desktop inside each Activity,
including...

3a. Setting the look and feel of each one so that it is clearly distinct
from the others, the background being one of the most vital elements in
creating that psychological, virtual "workspace".
3b. Individual customizability of the various widgets, toolbars and other
features that populate each Desktop.
3c. The ability to set any single feature or tool as either unique to that
Desktop or shared between all of them. Some features need to be always at hand,
just as a workman might carry a toolbelt between workbenches with his most-used
tools on it, while others can and should be confined to a certain workspace.

4. Multiple ways to quickly and easily navigate and move objects between
Desktops, the ability to smoothly switch between Activities, and simple, but
not necessarily as immediate, mechanisms for transferring and jumping to
programs between Activities. Perhaps on occasion you really do need to put a
toaster in the bathroom, but it will never be anywhere nearly as often as
moving it from one kitchen counter to 

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[Canoe]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #238 from Canoe  ---
I've had some time to work with this on the latest Plasma 5.9.3. 

This is my solution using Activities : 
1. Set virtual desktops to 1, with 1 row. 
2. Create as many Activities as you need Virtual Desktops.
3. Add the Activities Pager widget, this replaces the VD Widget!
4. Go to Task Switcher settings and filter windows by activity.

You now have the equivalent of Virtual Desktops, with their own wallpapers and
widgets per desktop. It works, and the only difference I can see is that you're
using Meta+Tab instead of alt-tab. 

I'm hoping more clarification is given on this, more so for how powerful
Activities are, hopefully some closure will be given during on-going
development. 

Thanks again to the Devs for their continued efforts in Plasma, - it's much
appreciated.

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[Nick]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143

--- Comment #237 from Nick  ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #2)
> >yes, the feature has been removed and due to the huge problem and added 
> >complexity it gave, is not going back.
> 
> Then close the bug.

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