[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2023-04-27 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

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--- Comment #8 from Nate Graham  ---
*** Bug 460528 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Nicolas Fella
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

--- Comment #7 from Nicolas Fella  ---
After looking at the notifications code I see that muting the event channel
actually requires plasma-pa to be installed

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Nicolas Fella
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

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--- Comment #6 from Nicolas Fella  ---
There seems to be a lot of confusion indeed. For instance I wasn't aware that
we are talking about kmix instead of plasma-pa.

What I think is happening is this:
- There is a special "event" audio channel that is used by both KNotifications
to send notifications and plasma-pa/kmix to make the volume change sound
- When enabling the Do not Disturb mode in the notification applet Plasma mutes
the event channel to turn off notification sounds. This therefore also mutes
the volume change sounds, which kind of is an accidental feature.
- For some reason kmix fails to mute the event channel and thus the volume
change sound. Could be a regression in kmix. Muting works fine with plasma-pa

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Alexis J.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

--- Comment #5 from Alexis J.  ---
A bit sad to see this "bug" already closed. Not sure that is just a confusion.

1. Ok, sound feedback is not a "notification" but a kind a kmix notification
no? (-> but it not possible to set specific parameters, introduced in 5.20,
about "notifications" for kmix so far)

2. The notification mode that turn off notifications for a period is called "do
not disturb" : it is not only about visual notifications but also about sounds,
system warnings,... so why not sound feedback? 

3. Before KDE Plasma 5.20 it was like that : with notification turned off, they
were no sound feedback. It was perfect and working like expected by users.

>From my user POV, it is a real regression and i dont understand why it works
not anymore like before (i dont want to permanently disable this option,
neither to mute all sound, but just when "do not disturb" mode is enable [like
on Android btw].

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Jens Reuterberg
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Jens Reuterberg
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

--- Comment #4 from Jens Reuterberg  ---
It seems like the issue was more confusion with how the volume for applications
worked.

Closing this bug for now and may reopen if I get more info from the user

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Jens Reuterberg
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

--- Comment #3 from Jens Reuterberg  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #2)
> Technically these aren't notifications. You can turn off audio volume
> preview in System Settings > Audio > Applications > Notification Sounds >
> click the mute icon.

In fairness this bug report is from a user who contacted the Facebook account
who felt they wherent good enough with english to report the bug themselves and
didn't understand how to do it.

Their argument was that during video meetings they turn off all sounds to not
disturb the conversations but then when raising/lowering the volume the clicks
still made noises and that felt "off" and annoying since their logic was that
when not wanting any sound notifications, all sound notifications should be
removed.

The reason I added it is because in a way the logic felt appealing to me and I
didn't know if it was intended or not.

The reason why is because that users action makes total sense - what from that
person POV differentiate the clicks for lowering or raising volume to say,
battery charging? The noise the volume raise action make is there to show the
user the level of volume, the noise the power cord connection makes also tells
them something.

At the same time as mentioned its two different things but to the user this
felt strange and they thought it was a bug.

So I think its worth considering - they are different technically, but in
practice they are in some scenarios, not.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

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--- Comment #2 from Nate Graham  ---
Technically these aren't notifications. You can turn off audio volume preview
in System Settings > Audio > Applications > Notification Sounds > click the
mute icon.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Nicolas Fella
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

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--- Comment #1 from Nicolas Fella  ---
Where in the Notification settings do you turn off the sound?

The volume indicators are not notifications though, both from a technical and
IMO also from a conceptual point of view. So  I'm not sure tying the two
together is a good idea.

What if I want my notifications to never have sound but still want the volume
indicator sound?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 428267] When notifications are turned off - Audio raise/lower still makes noise

2020-10-26 Thread Alexis J.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428267

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