[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Leonard Lausen]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

--- Comment #12 from Leonard Lausen  ---
Have you tried switching the order of layouts? In
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432367 I observe related issues that only
occur if US layout is on position 1 in the settings screen and my custom layout
is on position 2. However, when moving the custom layout to position 1 and US
layout to position 2 fixes there are no problems.

Note that the Layout Settings have Move Up/Down buttons to change layout order.

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Leonard Lausen]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Andrey]

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--- Comment #11 from Andrey  ---
I've opened Qt bug report:  
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-90611

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Andrey]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

--- Comment #10 from Andrey  ---
Could someone try it on other compositor?
It's still not clear to me if it KWin or Qt bug

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Andrey]

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Ilya Bizyaev]

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Alexander Potashev]

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Igor Poboiko]

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--- Comment #9 from Igor Poboiko  ---
*** Bug 407703 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Igor Poboiko]

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--- Comment #8 from Igor Poboiko  ---
Related link to the same bug in Qt: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-66497

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Martin Flöser]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

--- Comment #7 from Martin Flöser  ---
(In reply to Holger from comment #6)
> Does killing & restarting /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 help?
> 
> see: bug 350816

Certainly not: this is Wayland and kglobalaccel is not used.

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Holger]

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--- Comment #6 from Holger  ---
Does killing & restarting /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 help?

see: bug 350816

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Holger]

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--- Comment #5 from Holger  ---
*** Bug 365812 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Alexander Mentyu]

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--- Comment #4 from Alexander Mentyu  ---
Ctrl+Alt+K shortcut switches keyboard layouts from Ukrainian to Russian and
from Russian to English in X11 but not in Wayland

Distribution: KDE neon Developer Edition
Kernel: 4.15.0-29-generic
Plasma: 5.13.80
Apps: 18.11.70
Qt: 5.11.1
Frameworks: 5.48.0

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Martin Gräßlin]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

--- Comment #3 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
Am 10. Februar 2017 21:01:10 MEZ schrieb Igor Poboiko
:
>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518
>
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>--- Comment #2 from Igor Poboiko  ---
>Same here with russian layout (which is obviously completely different
>from
>english).
>
>(In reply to Martin Gräßlin from comment #1)
>> Now the problem is tricky. Do you know whether there is a key in the
>layout
>> which renders a "k"? Or whether the k key actually generates multiple
>> keysyms? If it generated kappa and k, we could change the code to
>support
>> all syms.
>
>I suppose Greek layout just doesn't have a "k" symbol at all. Does such
>layouts
>even exist (where the same symbol is placed on the some place in one
>layout and
>on another place on second layout)? 
>
>Can we just bind it not to the symbol but to key ("scan code") instead?

Unfortunately not. It's all keysym based.

>(however, it might break if user attaches another keyboard...)
>Or just map everything to English layout? (it might be weird if user
>isn't
>familiar with latin alphabet)

Requires the English layout to be part of the Keymap. So not a general
solution.
>Or maybe iterate over all configured layouts and check if pressed key
>code
>corresponds to a shortcut on any of it?

In general I like this idea, but I fear it's technically not possible.

I think the best solution would be to start translating the shortcuts.

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Igor Poboiko]

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--- Comment #2 from Igor Poboiko  ---
Same here with russian layout (which is obviously completely different from
english).

(In reply to Martin Gräßlin from comment #1)
> Now the problem is tricky. Do you know whether there is a key in the layout
> which renders a "k"? Or whether the k key actually generates multiple
> keysyms? If it generated kappa and k, we could change the code to support
> all syms.

I suppose Greek layout just doesn't have a "k" symbol at all. Does such layouts
even exist (where the same symbol is placed on the some place in one layout and
on another place on second layout)? 

Can we just bind it not to the symbol but to key ("scan code") instead?
(however, it might break if user attaches another keyboard...)
Or just map everything to English layout? (it might be weird if user isn't
familiar with latin alphabet)
Or maybe iterate over all configured layouts and check if pressed key code
corresponds to a shortcut on any of it?

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Martin Gräßlin]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

--- Comment #1 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
On Wayland we use the actual keyboard layout. Which is something which in my
opinion makes a lot of sense. If you enter ctrl+alt+k it's using the config
printed on they keyboard and the user does not have to know where the k key is
on the English layout. So this is in my opinion a huge improvement over X11.
Especially as on X11 it was inconsistent or just broken. AFAIK on X11 global
shortcuts just does not notice when the layout changes. If you would start with
greek layout as primary layout, it should be also broken.

Now the problem is tricky. Do you know whether there is a key in the layout
which renders a "k"? Or whether the k key actually generates multiple keysyms?
If it generated kappa and k, we could change the code to support all syms.

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Martin Gräßlin]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

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[kwin] [Bug 375518] global shortcuts show some oddities with foreign keyboard layouts

[Anton Kreuzkamp]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375518

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Summary|global shortcuts don't work |global shortcuts show some
   |as expected with foreign|oddities with foreign
   |keyboard layouts|keyboard layouts

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