[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Bharadwaj Raju changed: What|Removed |Added CC|bharadwaj.raju777@protonmai | |l.com | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #224 from Uwe Dippel --- Nothing to be seen here. Just move along. Don't waste your time and energy on trying to square the circle. Read up here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454345#c48 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #223 from EspadaRunica --- CONFIRMED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #222 from EspadaRunica --- (In reply to Bharadwaj Raju from comment #221) > The bug had multiple causes by which it could manifest. One cause was > tracked and *fixed* here. Other causes are tracked elsewhere as it is > easier. Is this concept really so difficult to understand? Correct, one of the causes was fixed, but that does NOT mean in any case that the bug has been fixed. If the error is still there, even if you have repaired 1 of all the causes, it means that it is NOT repaired. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #221 from Bharadwaj Raju --- (In reply to EspadaRunica from comment #220) > The open topic is wrong, something that was already open cannot be opened. >From everything I can gather, it isn't wrong and it is the bug you want. If you think otherwise, file a new one. Point is, stop spamming "OPEN!!!1" etc comments here. > something that was already open cannot be opened. Then add yourself to the CC list and follow the progress. > It was never fixed. The bug had multiple causes by which it could manifest. One cause was tracked and *fixed* here. Other causes are tracked elsewhere as it is easier. Is this concept really so difficult to understand? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #220 from EspadaRunica --- (In reply to Bharadwaj Raju from comment #217) > (In reply to EspadaRunica from comment #216) > > open > > There is already an open issue about it, > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454345. Don't spam here. The open topic is wrong, something that was already open cannot be opened. It was never fixed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|5.25.4 [NOT FIXED] |5.25.4 --- Comment #219 from Nate Graham --- Can I ask the people for whom this is still broken to file new bug reports? In this one, evidently we fixed one part of the problem, but if it's still partially happening for other use cases, it's much more helpful if we track those issues with new bug reports, rather than using this one as a monster that tracks everything. It helps. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #218 from EspadaRunica --- Not fixed in 5.25.4 https://i.imgur.com/V46TYof.png -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|5.25.2 [NOT FIXED] |5.25.4 [NOT FIXED] Version|5.25.0 |5.25.4 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #217 from Bharadwaj Raju --- (In reply to EspadaRunica from comment #216) > open There is already an open issue about it, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454345. Don't spam here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #216 from EspadaRunica --- open -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #215 from EspadaRunica --- OPEN -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|5.25 [NOT FIXED]|5.25.2 [NOT FIXED] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Version|5.24.5 |5.25.0 Version Fixed In|5.24.5 [NOT FIXED] |5.25 [NOT FIXED] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #214 from Pasha --- (In reply to William from comment #213) > i created new bug for those still expirencing the issue here: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454345 So now fun has been tranfserred to the other "bug channel"... too bad you were obliged to open it, this is ruining the astounding 7 years record of this one by some maquillage... this is pretty unfair! And there is some nerd claiming that the bug has been "squashed" (this "CLOSED FIXED" status belongs more to a Mr. Bean show rather than serious IT), while it's still there... 1 cause, 2 causes, n causes... the bug is still there, granny still complains about her dancing icons... so policy is: make it look like a bug squashing community, but "run it like politics" i.e. show some fake progress and relax, it's not your problem! (...and, after all, it's a pretty recent bug, just 2 weeks old, isn't it?) P.S.: gnome 42 works great, can also default file manager to nemo -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|5.24.5 |5.24.5 [NOT FIXED] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #213 from William --- i created new bug for those still expirencing the issue here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454345 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #212 from tomash...@gmail.com --- No idea if kded has anything to do with saving desktop icons but might a this fix: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97716 also fix the remaining issue with this? It kind of sounds similar. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #211 from vindicator --- Folks, if they want you to create a new report, just do it and link back to this thread stating its long-standing age, along with the associated title "Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot". (emphasis on "reboot") All parties get what they want. I would disagree that a new report should get created if the title still stands true. If the title is no longer true, then the report is "closed fixed". Having "fixed" ONE cause (where others still may remain), doesn't mean the title is no longer true. Other reports would be considered "duplicate" in my view. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #210 from Nate Graham --- I told you what you need to do: open a new bug report for your issue. The reason is because even though the issue you're experiencing may be the same as the issue tracked here, it clearly has a different root cause. This bug report was about *one* root cause of the issue, and that one got fixed. But wou found another one. Yours will require a new investigation and a new fix. Hence, we should track it with a new bug report, so that the people CCd on this bug report for whom the issue is already fixed don't get spammed with a zillion new comments. Please file a new bug report. It's not that hard. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #209 from Uwe Dippel --- Once again, though I had decided to keep mum, but that was on the other bug', here I have to side with Nick. The 'boot up problem' (of supposedly systemd) ISN'T gone. Don't want to yadayadayada-repeat myself for the umpteenth time, just see my posts above, ALL are still happening here. (We ARE off the 'scrambling at resolution change', confirmed, solved.) This one IS more difficult, because here scrambling, non-working keyboard, disappearing Desktop background are not easily reproducible, they just occur at random, and not frequently. Again: This is an ONLY AT BOOT problem. Subsequently difficult to follow up. So I would actually volunteer, again, if I could help with some specific log file that I'd harvest directly after some reboot when one of those errors occurs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #208 from Nick Stefanov --- Nate, this is the same nasty bug. What's the point to post a duplicate with the same title? Today my icons get scrambled again when I rebooted my PC. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|not fixed |5.24.5 --- Comment #207 from Nate Graham --- Again, that means we have fixed *one* cause of the bug, but evidently there are more. So we need *new* bug reports to track these heretofore undiscovered additional causes of the bug. So if you are still experiencing it, please file a new bug report and add "354802" to the "See also" field. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #206 from Nick Stefanov --- Hmm, after some time without any problems, today my icons get scrambled too at powering my PC. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|5.24.5 |not fixed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #205 from tomash...@gmail.com --- The policy makes sense to me, it really does seem to be fixed for the majority of cases. Of course you are welcome to link (I would recommnend it) this bug from the new bug and vice versa. (anw what you describe sounds to me maybe more like a consequence of the fix for this bug). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #204 from William --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #203) > Please file a new bug report as the original cause of this one has been > fixed. There might be new causes, but those need new bug reports. what policy is that? the bug description and everything in it fits the issue i have exactly, THIS bug is not fixed, creating a new one with exact same description will just lead to it not being found and not gaining any credibility, so it can be ignored for 6years again? There was a commit that claimed to fix this and it didnt: THIS BUG IS NUMBER 1 REASON u cannot install KDE to new users who dont want windows11.- and the action is to just ignore it and put it on "CLOSED FIXED" ? I am here telling you and whoever claimed to fix this, i can pay you if this gets finally fixed for real! And to anyone coming here from google, and co: THIS BUG IS NOT FIXED,.. it is very much still happening and 100% reproduceable every single logout/login, you are not the only one and your install is not at fault. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |FIXED Version Fixed In|Not solved at the moment... |5.24.5 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED --- Comment #203 from Nate Graham --- Please file a new bug report as the original cause of this one has been fixed. There might be new causes, but those need new bug reports. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 William changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|FIXED |--- Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED --- Comment #202 from William --- Ok this might be a slitghtly different issue but the desktop icons still get scrambled and if i run the command cp -v ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc.bak ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc followed by the usual plamsashell restart: kquitapp5 plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell the desktop ends up in a weird state where the icons show up where they belong as long as the focus is on the terminal, but when clicking anywhere on teh desktop the icons show up scrambled and on different positions. PLS PLS someone fix this issue for good, this is the nr1 reason i have to install xfce desktops on new linux user pcs because this happening every reboot/login would just drive em away from linux again at this point i am willing to pay for this to get fixed for real. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #201 from William --- still also happens but not always on running "pkill plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell" just tested this too, every 2nd or 3rd time that command changes deskto item positions aswell..- pls remove any codepath that touches that file during plasmashell start! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #200 from William --- what i just dont understand is why the "plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc" file in the user home gets overwritten at all. if it already exists it shouldnt be changed by a login like ever.. i tried locking the file in readOnly mode it still gets touched and items are scrambled so only workaround is to autostart a script that changes that file agian... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 William changed: What|Removed |Added CC||wi11ia...@pm.me --- Comment #199 from William --- Betriebssystem: Manjaro Linux KDE-Plasma-Version: 5.24.5 KDE-Frameworks-Version: 5.93.0 Qt-Version: 5.15.3 Kernel-Version: 5.17.6-1-MANJARO (64-bit) Grafik-Plattform: X11 just hit the update on manjaro stable, this bug still occuring , left/right row or column alignment items locked or unlocked, after every logout/login they are scrambled, although it doesnt seem random but rather in same way everytime (for example row alignment causes them to be in a sort of staircase pattern next login that is same everytime) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #198 from Nate Graham --- Your video depicts a separate issue, possibly Bug 359783 or a variant of it. Please file a new bug report about it. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|triaged |usability -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #197 from EspadaRunica --- Not solved on 5.24.5 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #196 from EspadaRunica --- Created attachment 148612 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=148612=edit https://mega.nz/file/B59UVAYL#ItyK9VdM5FeYLMyar7IusSQKEMszzWt-cbsmBJe2bUg https://mega.nz/file/B59UVAYL#ItyK9VdM5FeYLMyar7IusSQKEMszzWt-cbsmBJe2bUg -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Version Fixed In|5.24.5 |Not solved at the moment... URL||https://mega.nz/file/B59UVA ||YL#ItyK9VdM5FeYLMyar7IusSQK ||EMszzWt-cbsmBJe2bUg Platform|Manjaro |Neon Packages Version|5.18.5 |5.24.5 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 EspadaRunica changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|FIXED |--- Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED CC||danini...@gmail.com --- Comment #195 from EspadaRunica --- Not fixed... Video: https://mega.nz/file/B59UVAYL#ItyK9VdM5FeYLMyar7IusSQKEMszzWt-cbsmBJe2bUg -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.kde.org/show_b ||ug.cgi?id=449212 --- Comment #194 from Nate Graham --- There is one remaining way that I can find for the icons to be scrambled on boot: when you're using Wayland with screen scaling, sometimes the scale isn't initially applied properly, causing the desktop to be blurry and icons to-re-arrange themselves because they think there's not enough room. This is tracked by Bug 449212, so if anyone is still seeing scrambled icons happen on Wayland with the desktop blurry right after boot, that's the bug report you can follow to be notified when it gets fixed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Latest Commit|https://invent.kde.org/plas |https://invent.kde.org/plas |ma/plasma-desktop/commit/2d |ma/plasma-desktop/commit/8f |ca17060c06f85abc365bab9484e |85c4658adfdf7a01c591afd79ba |e4446d78772 |a9eed8b79dd Version Fixed In|5.25|5.24.5 --- Comment #193 from Nate Graham --- Git commit 8f85c4658adfdf7a01c591afd79baa9eed8b79dd by Nate Graham, on behalf of Bharadwaj Raju. Committed on 17/04/2022 at 18:55. Pushed by ngraham into branch 'Plasma/5.24'. Folder View: save desktop containment icon positions on a per-resolution basis Related: bug 360478 FIXED-IN: 5.24.5 (cherry picked from commit 2dca17060c06f85abc365bab9484ee4446d78772) M +1-14 containments/desktop/package/contents/ui/FolderView.qml M +29 -3containments/desktop/package/contents/ui/FolderViewLayer.qml M +1-0containments/desktop/plugins/folder/positioner.cpp https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/commit/8f85c4658adfdf7a01c591afd79baa9eed8b79dd -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Daniele Scasciafratte changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mte90...@gmail.com --- Comment #192 from Daniele Scasciafratte --- I have this issue in a computer but I was always thinking that was an issue because we shutdown often the computer manually with the button. I hope to see the new version soon to update the machine! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Latest Commit|https://commits.kde.org/pla |https://invent.kde.org/plas |sma-desktop/aaebb51077aef6c |ma/plasma-desktop/commit/2d |5a5b974a38958e23366e357f2 |ca17060c06f85abc365bab9484e ||e4446d78772 Resolution|--- |FIXED Version Fixed In||5.25 Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED --- Comment #191 from Nate Graham --- Yep, tested this six ways to Sunday and it's definitely fixed now. Hallelujah! Thanks so much, Bharadwaj! Because that makes https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/commit/2dca17060c06f85abc365bab9484ee4446d78772 a bugfix, we can consider backporting it to 5.24! I will investigate some more. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #190 from Mike --- oh...thanks ! Didn't realized that. So I wil happily wait for the next Manjaro update. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #189 from Bharadwaj Raju --- (In reply to Mike from comment #188) > Read this surprisingly... because I didn't had those bug experience for a > long time - after my hardware upgrade never again...but 2 days ago and even > today just on reboot all icons are scrambled again :-o . Oh n > Still on Manjaro 5.15.28-1 Plasma 5.24.3 Kernel 5.15.28 X11...; Note that the bug fix in question is only in 5.25, not 5.24.x -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #188 from Mike --- Read this surprisingly... because I didn't had those bug experience for a long time - after my hardware upgrade never again...but 2 days ago and even today just on reboot all icons are scrambled again :-o . Oh n Still on Manjaro 5.15.28-1 Plasma 5.24.3 Kernel 5.15.28 X11...; -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #187 from Nate Graham --- I was just noticing myself that it seems to be fixed now! I wanted to do a bit more testing before formally calling it fixed. But yeah, great work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Bharadwaj Raju changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bharadwaj.raju777@protonmai ||l.com --- Comment #186 from Bharadwaj Raju --- Not sure, is this the same issue as Bug 360478 (fixed)? If it is, then we can close this one as a duplicate? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #185 from Pasha --- (In reply to Nick Stefanov from comment #178) > It's hilarious in 2022 we are still talking about this... Well, buddy, that's why I still have subscription to this bug report, I want to see where the telenovela goes, while eating popcorn :((( After all, if even during lockdowns no developer struggled to fill the bill of this outrageous ageing bug, well, it's a lost cause... All the chickens in redmond are laughing up like crazy! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nk0...@yahoo.fr --- Comment #184 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 452506 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Frederick Yin changed: What|Removed |Added CC||f...@fkfd.me -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #183 from tomash...@gmail.com --- Well, Nemo (which is used in Mint) has a similar bug that drove me crazy when I was still using Unity: https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/2596 I was really dissapointed when I found out that KDE has the same issue. But otherwise it is pretty functional and I hope this gets fixed eventually. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #182 from Nick Stefanov --- (In reply to Uwe Dippel from comment #181) wouldn't want to having anything to do > officially with such a system once a user filed a ticket for either. Some 20 > years ago, such bugs were good material for jokes about Redmond. Unfortunately that's the reason I install Mint Cinnamon for other people. I migrated over 500 users to Linux and none of them is using KDE because of this ridiculous bug. I love Plasma and I can fight it's bugs everyday but I can't want from people to do the same. They'll rather back to Windows which is sad. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #181 from Uwe Dippel --- "on almost every restart" Look further up. I think we have to make with two items. One is the placement of icons on the desktop in case of real estate changes. You'll find everything under #360478. Aside of changes of icons (like desktop background), we probably see effects of another bug that isn't triggered by changes of desktop real estate, but rather as random occurence only at boot. Which points into the direction of systemd. I myself have observed some occasional messed-up behaviour (see above), including just not being able to process password input at login; exclusively after a boot. Meaning, the built-in keyboard isn't read properly and multiple efforts will never allow me to enter my password properly. After a reboot, everything works fine. Make this a once out of 10 cold boots. (And, no, yes, the keyboard(s) will work 100 percent during hours of typing session - keyboards: this behaviour is - if this happens - identical on the built-in keyboard and the external keyboard; so it is DEFINITELY not a keyboard problem!) I' d really wish we could split and clearly distinguish the underlying situation despite of - at first glance - similar outcome: 1. Messed up icons (and desktop, and other stuff) solely at *boot -> pointing to systemd-dependencies (this bug) 2. Messed up icons solely at change of real estate (seemingly random positioning of icons whose locations don't exist after a downsizing of the canvas (#360478) ) What unifies these two bugs is only their ages of >6 years, and their major blocking of kubuntu to be 'useable by the average person out there'. Having been sysadmin for 20+-years, I wouldn't want to having anything to do officially with such a system once a user filed a ticket for either. Some 20 years ago, such bugs were good material for jokes about Redmond. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Błażej Szczygieł changed: What|Removed |Added CC||spa...@wp.pl --- Comment #180 from Błażej Szczygieł --- For me Plasma (5.24.2) changes custom icon position on almost every restart. Moreover Plasma changes custom icon positions on screen resolution change (e.g. run old game or change to lower resolution manually and go back). Plasma doesn't take advantage of possible scroll bars - it mustn't change position of icons on Plasma resize - it should display scroll bars. They will disappear when size go backs to normal, otherwise the user can sort icons manually. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802
--- Comment #179 from Uwe Dippel ---
@Zyansheep, alas, no. Thanks for #177, but we deal with a different item here.
I cannot fathom that we have so far not had a single reply from KDE e.V. on how
to handle the desktop in case of variations in the real estate. There seems to
be no explicit rule. Once real estate grows, the icons are left where they are
w.r.t. 'Zero' of X, that is (0,0) == upper left corner. Not necessarily nice,
though working.
If, however, real estate shrinks, there also seems to be no other rule than
just not to discard the icons for which the locations might be gone. So they
will be splattered (with a process unknown to me) across the remaining real
estate.
I didn't follow the design decisions of - by now - a decade ago. Maybe those
people have moved on by now.
Whatever, though, and maybe I am wrong here, until today nobody of the relevant
authority has decided on or published a rule on the handling of (mostly) icons
on the Plasma desktop in case of changing geometrical properties.
Therefore, this bug is not one of code which could be rectified with a certain
ease. The bug is - I know, I only repeat myself - a bug of the design
('architecture'). As long as no rule is set out, there is no code possible in
this world to implement that rule.
Of course, I have been available to discuss some possible rules plus their
consequences; in order not to just be a nay-sayer. Though, I am not aware of
any serious attempts to advance by the KDE project in this respect.
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[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #178 from Nick Stefanov --- It's hilarious in 2022 we are still talking about this... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Zyansheep changed: What|Removed |Added CC||zyansh...@gmail.com --- Comment #177 from Zyansheep --- I found this thread on the manjaro forums that fixed it for me (not sure if it is the same bug tho), seems to be a glitch where the folders-first checkbox is checked even though manual sorting is selected, which is impossible in the settings page, but possible to set in the right-click menu. https://forum.manjaro.org/t/kde-plasma-does-not-remember-the-location-of-desktop-icons/68636/14 (I use NixOS btw) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #175 from Nick Stefanov --- It's not NVIDIA, the bug appears on Intel GPUs too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #174 from vindicator --- I think I can alieve you of your "Nvidia" "sneaking suspicion" with comment #7 (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802#c7), as well as my case being under the use of a very old Haswell IGP. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Dolandemort changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dolandem...@protonmail.ch --- Comment #173 from Dolandemort --- In "Desktop Folder Settings", and in the "Icons" category, there is a setting called "Arrangement", with the possible values being "Rows" or "Columns". When I had this set to "Columns" (the same behavior as in Windows), my desktop icons would be scrambled very frequently during login/unlock/awakening from suspend. To cut a long story short, I have reverted this value back to "Rows", and I have yet to have the scrambling occur. This might be an acceptable work around for many people, and perhaps it is the reason why the devs have been unable to successfully replicate this bug since they are using the default value. For the record, I am also using an nvidia GPU; I have a sneaking suspicion this is somehow related since it has caused many other glitches with KDE. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #172 from Uwe Dippel --- Thanks, Chango, for #170! Because it confirms my own observation, here and in other bugs, that it is not just a predictable problem of shifting around icons at changes of resolution, as mostly tackled in here. I am 'glad' that it is not only me, who experiences a loss of all settings, default desktop background and 'listing' of all icons at some boots, though infrequently. Despite of a physical setup with any modification w.r.t. cables et al, sometimes at login to KDE it seems that the built-in screen is activated first, before switching to the external monitor; while some times it is the external monitor that is activated immediately. How do I know? In the first case, all icons are positioned in the upper left corner, exactly filling the area implemented by the laptop screen. Meaning, that during startup the resolution of the laptop screen is read and applied briefly. (Then I reset the icon locations) Some times the icons remain at their pre-allocated positions on the monitor with a larger resolution; indicating that the monitor switch as set in the System Settings (internal monitor disabled) happens earlier, before getting the external monitor up. In a nutshell, you seem to confirm my suspicion, that the plasma desktop goes through unpredictable phases and sequences at its start-up. I didn't look at the details, but I can imagine that it has to make with task parallelization, like with systemd. In any case, the plasma desktop is brought up in a non-reproducible, non-controlled, not predefined sequence, so it looks like. Your workaround confirms this: During startup, certain processes read and write configuration files at undefined moments of the sequence. With some bad luck (it happens once per around 50 or 70 start-ups here) it doesn't find what it is looking for, and subsequently starts its layout from scratch. The passage through initial laptop display respectively immediately bringing up the external monitor immediately rather is distributed 1:1 here. (I really wonder if the kde developer use their own product, or have likewise implemented workarounds for their machines?) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #171 from Nick Stefanov --- It's so sad using such workarounds in 21st century for such basic things in DE which calls itself advanced... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Chango changed: What|Removed |Added CC||changoscalien...@gmail.com --- Comment #170 from Chango --- I have the same problem, every so often the icons lose their custom order and are arranged only horizontally starting from the top left. The wallpaper I chose is changed to the one that comes by default. All plasmas that I put on the desktop are lost. Apparently the file ~ / .config / plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc is replaced by its default version at some point during KDE startup. Under this hypothesis, I decided that to prevent the custom file from being lost, it was best to put it in read-only mode during the entire startup process and to return to read-write mode only when the startup had finished. To achieve this I made a script that runs automatically at KDE startup: ... #! /bin/bash chmod 444 ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc sleep 30s chmod 744 ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc ... I also added a script that runs during the log out process .. .. .. #! /bin/bash chmod 444 ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc .. .. .. And it is working flawlessly to this day. My system is: Sistema operativo: Manjaro Linux Versión de KDE Plasma: 5.23.3 Versión de KDE Frameworks: 5.88.0 Versión de Qt: 5.15.2 Versión del kernel: 5.15.2-2-MANJARO (64 bits) Plataforma gráfica: X11 Procesadores: 2 × AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ Memoria: 3,8 GiB de RAM Procesador gráfico: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #169 from Uwe Dippel --- "Scrambled" means what? I have to observe three effects in this context, in addition to #360478: 1. Icons are 'moving about'. I filed this as well. This applies especially to displays of widgets that change size, like fuzzy clock. 2. At times (roughly once per twenty boots) all settings are gone, my desktop background image doesn't show, instead the default kde desktop is displayed, with my 20+ icons 'nicely' arranged in regular rows, starting in the upper left corner. 3. Only the Chromium icon (does it have to do with snap?) disappears for good. It never comes back, just 'empty' with the caption still there, and clicking the empty space brings chromium up. So once per fortnight I need to re-add it to the desktop. It stays, and survives a number of boots, maybe a dozen, before it doesn't pop up. Rinse and repeat. Workaround for 1 and 2 is the config saver applet. It does not work for 3. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 Uwe Dippel changed: What|Removed |Added CC||udip...@gmail.com --- Comment #168 from Uwe Dippel --- "Scrambled" means what? I have to observe three effects in this context, in addition to #360478: 1. Icons are 'moving about'. I filed this as well. This applies especially to displays of widgets that change size, like fuzzy clock. 2. At times (roughly once per twenty boots) all settings are gone, my desktop background image doesn't show, instead the default kde desktop is displayed, with my 20+ icons 'nicely' arranged in regular rows, starting in the upper left corner. 3. Only the Chromium icon (does it have to do with snap?) disappears for good. It never comes back, just 'empty' with the caption still there, and clicking the empty space brings chromium up. So once per fortnight I need to re-add it to the desktop. It stays, and survives a number of boots, maybe a dozen, before it doesn't pop up. Rinse and repeat. Workaround for 1 and 2 is the config saver applet. It does not work for 3. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #167 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.23 - the bug is still here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #166 from Nick Stefanov --- The funny thing is the devs don't have idea too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #165 from kdebugtrack...@gemlog.ca --- It's an intriguing problem isn't it? :-) I can grok how, depending on how the icon positions are stored, could be effected by a change in resolution. I don't get why all the icons aren't translate to new positions in a uniform way. How some icons remain in place and others are flung across the display seemingly at random. Maybe relative positions are stored and some 'wrap' around the edge? I really have no idea. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #164 from Nick Stefanov --- I have this problem with DP interface and NVIDIA GTX 1080Ti. My brother is with DVI-D and NVIDIA 1050 and he also experience this problem. We are with different monitors. Nevertheless, you can always reproduce the problem when set icons on the left from top to bottom and then lower the current resolution. It's 100% reproducible. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #163 from kdebugtrack...@gemlog.ca --- A good point Mike - I didn't do just one thing and make one change - I made many hardware changes at once. This SSD was sitting in a m/c only a few years old when its p/s died and my town is too small to have a store for parts, so I built a pc out of old ones. The KDE Neon install suddenly 'woke up' to find itself in a body composed of an old 2009 box and with an HDMI output for a second monitor instead of DVI. Maybe it's the combination and the bug is peculiar to a certain chipset + HDMI, at least for *this* bug. I have read around and seen that 'dancing icons' was caused before a couple of times by something entirely different that got fixed. I was just flabbergasted that I could make it happen by toggling the power switch on the monitor. Hard bug, b/c it is so rare. I'm not a single data point. I've supported KDE on desktops in many homes and businesses for decades and never encountered this bug until now. After reading through a bunch of similar bug reports, it seems that 'dancing icons' is more of a syndrome - a symptom like pneumonia, something with many possible causes vs a single 'disease'. Since it only effects me (in gemlog's little world, at least), New Plan: I will simply rename the icons I care about with numbers and let the desktop sort them by name and forget about it! :-) Thank you all for sharing your experiences. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #162 from Mike --- this bug indeed is ancient and possibly never dissapears. But the last comment about hdmi is at least here not fitting: I initially had the bug on my workstation with an HDMI monitor but since I upgraded m hardware to a ryzen7 5700G I never had the bug biting me...;BUT...on an older Lenovo ThinkPad (T500) almost on any boot with the same.manjaro system as in m desktop all icons get scrambled...; And on the laptop it's the integrated screen ...where it happens ..on the workstation over HDmi it's stable. My sDtem before where it happens also was very old... Athlon x2-250 and an nvidio Gtx650ti... ; for me it looks like old hardware has an influence...? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #161 from Pasha --- (In reply to kdebugtracking from comment #159) > I've used kde for over 20 years - it might be even 25 - I forget, but it was > in the 90's for sure. Never had the problem until now using a fully updated > KDE Neon, which is quite bleeding edge. Of course it happens my friend, this bug has now become a *feature* :D which other DE in the world could boast "dancing icons" Stop acid digestions and join the club of me and Florian who are using another product. I know that you got used, I was too, but afterwards you will breathe seamlessly and forget about this ridiculous story. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #160 from kdebugtrack...@gemlog.ca --- All I need to do to make the icons move is turn the hdmi monitor off and then on again! I am not kidding. I do nothing but turn the monitor off and on and the icons mv by themselves. It doesn't matter if they are locked or not. Sometimes it ignores the 'manual' setting and arranges them as if it weren't set. Other times they seem to move to random positions. I read somewhere on here that different resolutions might play a role. Perhaps the hdmi monitor steps through some as it acquires the signal from the computer. IDK. Anyhow. No need to reboot, logout or do *anything* but turn that monitor off and on to trigger the bug. The other monitor is vga and both are just coming off the motherboard (bios says 2009) and not a special video card. I hope this helps to track it down. I never had the bug until I hooked up this hdmi monitor, so it makes sense that way at least too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 kdebugtrack...@gemlog.ca changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kdebugtrack...@gemlog.ca --- Comment #159 from kdebugtrack...@gemlog.ca --- I've used kde for over 20 years - it might be even 25 - I forget, but it was in the 90's for sure. Never had the problem until now using a fully updated KDE Neon, which is quite bleeding edge. However, this install worked fine until my P/S died and I moved the hd into a different box entirely. Other than being only slightly slower - if at all (2 core, bios is 2009, 6GB) - the only real difference is that my second monitor is now HDMI < I think it's this somehow. It happens with opengl and xrender. It happens during a session. I don't have to reboot and it scrambles the icons. Set to manual. Locked or unlocked makes no difference. This is indeed a very old bug I see from this thread and also a duplicate. Maybe this helps someone familiar with the code. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #158 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.22 - The problem is still here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #157 from Florian Röhrer --- Guys, just do it like I and Pasha did and switch to another Desktop Environment where the basic features actually work. They won't fix this issue anytime soon. Like Pasha, I am only here to see how ridiculous the arrogant reactions of the developers actually can get. It is kind of sad because Plasma has always been a very good Desktop Environment. At some point, however, I got the feeling, you had to worry that another stupid bug occurs once you updated Plasma -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #156 from Nick Stefanov --- The weirdness continues: https://i.imgur.com/FEQyA9C.png Something is so screwed up... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #155 from xar...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #152) > Nick, I hope you understand that the more noise you make in this bug report, > the more you're annoying the developers who are capable of fixing the issue > and making it less likely they they will ever want to work on it. > > This is not a commentary on optimal user-developer relations, or whether or > not the priority of this issue should be adjusted. I'm just telling you like > it is: your current approach is not effective at making this bug get fixed > any faster. I can't agree with you in any way Nathan. If no noise is made, the bug will sink forever into the abyss without ever being resolved. If the developers don't want to be bothered with this bug anymore, let them work on fixing it. You yourself, I asked you a question in a bug asking you what I had to put in addition to provide the most information to resolve a bug on the desktop and you never answered me. So, before you go after users who are annoying, start by answering those who ask you questions to help you and other KDE developers solve bugs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #154 from Nick Stefanov --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #152) > Nick, I hope you understand that the more noise you make in this bug report, > the more you're annoying the developers who are capable of fixing the issue > and making it less likely they they will ever want to work on it. > > This is not a commentary on optimal user-developer relations, or whether or > not the priority of this issue should be adjusted. I'm just telling you like > it is: your current approach is not effective at making this bug get fixed > any faster. When there was no noise, nobody looked at it. When there's noise - it's all the same. I want to make you understand how absurd is this bug for any DE and working on a fix should be with the highest priority. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #153 from Pasha --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #152) > Nick, I hope you understand that the more noise you make in this bug report, > the more you're annoying the developers who are capable of fixing the issue > and making it less likely they they will ever want to work on it. > > This is not a commentary on optimal user-developer relations, or whether or > not the priority of this issue should be adjusted. I'm just telling you like > it is: your current approach is not effective at making this bug get fixed > any faster. I must admit: I didn't yet sign out of this surreal bug report because I was so damn curious to see to which level clownish answers like such could drop.. come on, darling! Keep on pissing off kind cooperative users who would like to help closing this outrageous bug, more than 5yrs old now, light up the candle on its anniversary cake! Btw, my gnome3 desktop would also like to learn how to scramble icons, maybe you could help teaching!!! You really got the attitude of a good teacher! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #152 from Nate Graham --- Nick, I hope you understand that the more noise you make in this bug report, the more you're annoying the developers who are capable of fixing the issue and making it less likely they they will ever want to work on it. This is not a commentary on optimal user-developer relations, or whether or not the priority of this issue should be adjusted. I'm just telling you like it is: your current approach is not effective at making this bug get fixed any faster. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #151 from Nick Stefanov --- And here we come again. The icons got scrambled even without a restart, I just turned off my monitor for a while. When I turned it on again I found this: https://i.imgur.com/j7gfo5W.png I left them like this: https://i.imgur.com/w6ZIHcD.png And what's the most ridiculous is I can't rearrange them: https://youtu.be/5G9J6COKUQ8 How can you devs sleep at night with such ridiculous bug? I can't imagine nobody look at this, this is madness! It isn't some alpha DE, it's the famous KDE Plasma with numerous versions behind, many of them LTS. Is this what you call LTS? In 2021 we still chase our desktop icons and can't arrange them as we like. Epic fail... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #150 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.21 and it's still here. And the double icons too: https://i.imgur.com/TbpxHAA.png Random icons get double mark area after some time and I don't know when. If I shut down my monitor for a while or when the resolution is being changed, I really don't know but I see them everyday. If I take the icon and move it, the problem disappears and I can return it to it's previous place with normal outline. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #149 from Nick Stefanov --- Plasma 5.20.4 - it's all the same. Nate, will be another deadline for this important problem? And do you plan another talk with the devs? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #148 from Pasha --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #130) > To reiterate: posting negativity makes people capable of fixing this issue > less likely to do so rather than more, because dealing with you will seem > like an unpleasant experience. Whining and complaining in pubic is thus > counter-productive. Sorry to hit you with the hard truths, but that's just > how it is. :) Yes, after 5 YEARS of kissing some phantom dev's ass, offering availability to help nothing has happened. Wrong strategy. > If you're desperate for this to be fixed, you have the following plausible > options: > 1. Fix it yourself > 2. Convince a technically-minded friend to fix it for you > 3. Raise awareness in a positive manner such that developers *want* to fix > it because they think that working with you on it will be a fun experience > 4. Start a bug bounty for this issue and help it to grow to a large sum > ($1000 or more) > 5. Directly pay a developer to fix it > Pick one. Note that complaining in public isn't one of the effective > options. :) I picked up NUMBER SIX: use ubuntu with Gnome 3. I REFUSE to go back to KDE (which always used to be my fave DE) UNTIL this RIDICULOUS bug gets fixed. I don't play games, I don't switch resolution and the bug was still there till I installed ubuntu. Now, finally, it's gone. Finally effective debugging. You have been already told that even the infamous win 95 didn't have such annoying bug and you devs spend time beating yourself up with arcane mumbo-jumbo while the FRONT LINE OF YOUR PRODUCT IS FLAWED, dancing icons on the desktop are one of the first things every "lucky" one notices. You really must be out of this world guys, wasting so many hours of your life in order to make the perfect software and getting turned down by the very first grandma using KDE and asking "why the hell don't these icons stay where I put them?". Come back down to Earth, realize that a product that does annoy the user ain't really gonna "konquer" the world. Sincerily yours Pasha -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 deadite66 changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lee295...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #147 from Nick Stefanov --- Or they just can see how it's achieved in every other DE and I'm sad to say it - even Windows. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #146 from xar...@gmail.com --- I don't know if this might be of any interest, but wouldn't it be possible to use some sort of matrix representing the position of the icons in a given resolution and when changing to a smaller one, use the latter for reposition the icons in the original resolution. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 354802] Desktop Icon position gets scrambled sometimes on reboot.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354802 --- Comment #145 from Nick Stefanov --- I think if it will be fixed, it should solve this bug too. You say there is workaround? Where, I obviously missed it :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
