[plasmashell] [Bug 355190] copy current date/time into clipboard

[Kai Uwe Broulik]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355190

Kai Uwe Broulik  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
   Version Fixed In||5.13.0
 Resolution|--- |FIXED
  Latest Commit||https://commits.kde.org/pla
   ||sma-workspace/ffa23acf440b0
   ||a162a9458f06622d2c98ed3f80c

--- Comment #30 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
Git commit ffa23acf440b0a162a9458f06622d2c98ed3f80c by Kai Uwe Broulik, on
behalf of Bernhard Schiffner.
Committed on 11/04/2018 at 08:27.
Pushed by broulik into branch 'master'.

[Digital Clock] Allow copying current date and time to clipboard
FIXED-IN: 5.13.0

Differential Revision: https://phabricator.kde.org/D6183

M  +8-0applets/digital-clock/package/contents/ui/DigitalClock.qml
M  +3-0applets/digital-clock/package/contents/ui/main.qml
M  +2-0applets/digital-clock/plugin/CMakeLists.txt
A  +162  -0applets/digital-clock/plugin/clipboardmenu.cpp [License: GPL
(v2/3)]
A  +59   -0applets/digital-clock/plugin/clipboardmenu.h [License: GPL
(v2/3)]
M  +11   -0applets/digital-clock/plugin/digitalclockplugin.cpp

https://commits.kde.org/plasma-workspace/ffa23acf440b0a162a9458f06622d2c98ed3f80c

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[plasmashell] [Bug 355190] copy current date/time into clipboard

[Nate Graham]

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[plasmashell] [Bug 355190] copy current date/time into clipboard

[Barry Jackson]

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--- Comment #29 from Barry Jackson  ---
I am now on 5.12.1 and this is still not available on right clicking the date.

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--- Comment #28 from tuk...@gmail.com ---
I seem to be on 5.10.5-2 (Debian) and nothing changed effectively towards this.

I tried all of the default clocks right now (except the binary one) and
right-clicking shows me no copy options.

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christian.her...@astro.su.se changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Version Fixed In|5.7.0   |
Version|5.4.2   |5.8.7
   Platform|Debian testing  |unspecified

--- Comment #27 from christian.her...@astro.su.se ---
Just a ping.  I am not on the latest Plasma - but on 5.8.7 (openSUSE Leap).  If
this is fixed in newer versions then it should be closed?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 355190] copy current date/time into clipboard

[Bernhard Schiffner]

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--- Comment #26 from Bernhard Schiffner  ---
Some progress made: 
https://phabricator.kde.org/D6183

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[Barry Jackson via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #25 from Barry Jackson  ---
Will this be in 5.8.0?

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--- Comment #24 from Barry Jackson  ---
Could it not be implemented with no seconds included for now?
This would be much better than nothing at all.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 355190] copy current date/time into clipboard

[Kai Uwe Broulik via KDE Bugzilla]

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

--- Comment #23 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
I'm sorry but we're missing API to refresh the time in the instance the menu is
opened because our time engine is minute-aligned and thus the seconds in the
menu would always be :00 or :59 or :01 and it was too late in the cycle to add
that API.

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--- Comment #22 from cher...@aip.de ---
Why did it not get into 5.7 beta?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 355190] copy current date/time into clipboard

[Martin Klapetek via KDE Bugzilla]

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   Version Fixed In||5.7.0

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 Status|CONFIRMED   |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #21 from Martin Klapetek  ---
5.7 earliest because it contains new strings, which is not allowed in stable
releases.

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[Barry Jackson via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #20 from Barry Jackson  ---
Now that's what I call service!
Brilliant!
Works perfectly.
Which release is this likely to be included in?
I have patched 5.6.1 to test and am hoping our KDE/Plasma maintainer will
accept it for our 5.6.2 package.
Many thanks :)

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--- Comment #19 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
There: https://phabricator.kde.org/D1350

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--- Comment #18 from cher...@aip.de ---
(In reply to Kai Uwe Broulik from comment #15)
> Also, I was
> actually looking into implementing this very feature recently but Artem's
> comment really drove away my motivation for that...

Thats sad. And I did not want to start a flamewar on this. 
If I would have the time and skills to code this, I would do it - but since I
lack both, I can only report bugs. I also did not intend to start a
flamerwar...

Lets maybe put this as whishlist, and probably its a junior job. Maybe somebody
will step forward...

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[Martin Klapetek via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #17 from Martin Klapetek  ---
Dully noted. Now please go make something useful for the world.

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[Artem S . Tashkinov via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #16 from Artem S. Tashkinov  ---
Created attachment 98279
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=98279=edit
KDE 3.5.10

(In reply to Kai Uwe Broulik from comment #15)
> The thing is that our manpower is limited and there are features like this
> one that we frankly did not consider as important as others.

Exactly. KDE developers code for _themselves_ and choose things to work on on
their own. Their userbase concerns are not their own cencerns.

If what I'm saying is not true, we wouldn't have had two major fuck ups called
KDE4 and KDE SC5. We wouldn't have had a situation when multiple applications
from the past have no equivalents in KDE5. We wouldn't have had a situation
when new KDE4/KDE SC5 application have far fewer features than their KDE3
counterparts.

> Also, I was actually looking into implementing this very feature recently but 
> Artem's
> comment really drove away my motivation for that...

You see, you just prove my words all the freaking time. You're busy coding new
shiny APIs no one cares about instead of making gradual changes while
preserving old features.

Who exactly uses KDE SC5 on smartphones, tablets or Windows? Who cares how
portable KDE is? People need to work for God's sake. You do _everything_ to
break people's workflow and then you suddenly realize that people have stopped
using your software. Run stats on KDE bugzilla and you'll suddenly realize
people's activity as of recently has substantially decreased even though
overall more people use Linux nowadays. Have you asked yourself why?

Do you realize that both KDE and Gnome have long stopped being the most popular
DEs in Linux? Do you know what's number one right now? XFCE4 running GTK2 is.
People are tired of your shit, sir. You do _not_ remove crucial features just
because you believe that new APIs are better than the old ones. People do not
care about APIs.

You do not remove xembed (systray) support and break dozens of apps, just
because you think everyone should upgrade from xembed. You do not remove
absolutely useful systray apps and replace them with UGLY unusable plasmoids
which you cannot embed into systray at all, because you present information
very sparsely.

Have a look at my task bar in KDE 3.5.10. Now tell me if I can do anything like
that in KDE5.

1) It's fully transparent (it has an option for that) - do not tell me about
unsupported KDE5 themes.
2) It has applications which don't have existing corresponding .desktop
shortcuts.
3) It has KNetStats which show network activity in real time by blinking.
4) It has a weather applet.
5) KSensors (including _voltages_, _fans_ speed and temperatures).

You tell me to upgrade to KDE5 to have my workflow royally fucked? What for?

Don't get me started on the fact that KDE4/KDE5 are absolute resource hogs in
comparison to KDE3 while _usually_ having less polish, working slower and
having uglier UI out of the box.

It's not users who drive you away.
It's you who drive users away.

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[Kai Uwe Broulik via KDE Bugzilla]

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Kai Uwe Broulik  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO  |---
 Status|NEEDSINFO   |UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #15 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
Note that Artem is not a KDE developer and his opinions do not represent the
opinions of us KDE developers.

The thing is that our manpower is limited and there are features like this one
that we frankly did not consider as important as others. I'm not saying that
having this feature would be a bad thing to have, which is why we would happily
accept a patch if someone would actually implement it, it's just that it's
unlikely for the core team to do this anytime soon. Also, I was actually
looking into implementing this very feature recently but Artem's comment really
drove away my motivation for that...

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[Barry Jackson via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #14 from Barry Jackson  ---
(In reply to Artem S. Tashkinov from comment #13)

> KDE developers are busy breaking things 
It was not broken in KDE4, so no comment...

> and adding shiny new features.
Surely it's more important to fix bugs than add shiny features.

> Meanwhile you can write a patch implementing this feature yourself and try
> to get it merged.
Whoa! So you are going to remove useful features at random and then ask users
to re-implement them!

>That's how open source works. Get used to it.
Shame that you have this attitude - users are users - they are the people that
you actually develop this stuff for, are they not?

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--- Comment #13 from Artem S. Tashkinov  ---
(In reply to cherenz from comment #12)
> This is still "NEEDSINFO WAITINGFORINFO", although 3 respondees provided
> information on their usecases.  What kind of more information is needed?

KDE developers are busy breaking things and adding shiny new features.
Meanwhile you can write a patch implementing this feature yourself and try to
get it merged. That's how open source works. Get used to it.

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--- Comment #12 from cher...@aip.de ---
This is still "NEEDSINFO WAITINGFORINFO", although 3 respondees provided
information on their usecases.  What kind of more information is needed?

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--- Comment #11 from Barry Jackson  ---
+1
I was just about to file a bug report about this having just started using
Plasma5 after being used to KDE4.
I really miss this feature - it may be faster for fast typists to just type the
date, but for one finger users the mouse is much faster and less error prone.

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--- Comment #10 from user_feedback_...@yahoo.com ---
Count me as another user who misses this functionality. I used to use it every
couple of days to add dates to emails or add the date to a folder name. I found
it quicker and less error prone that reading off the date and typing it in by
hand. I was really frustrated when I found, for no apparent reason, this
functionality had just disappeared.

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Martin Klapetek  changed:

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Product|kdeplasma-addons|plasmashell
   Assignee|plasma-b...@kde.org |mklape...@kde.org
  Component|fuzzy-clock |Digital Clock
   Target Milestone|--- |1.0

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