[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Alexander Mentyu]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385828

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--- Comment #17 from Alexander Mentyu  ---
GolderDict and Akregator icons are displayed ok

KDE Plasma Version: 5.11.4
KDE Apps Version: 17.12.0
5.41.0
Qt Version: 5.10.0
Kernel: 4.14.10-2-MANJARO

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Dr . Chapatin]

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

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--- Comment #16 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
Now icons disappears for modern applications: Goldendict (Qt 5.9), Akrekator
(KDE 5.x), Quite RSS (Qt 5.9). Definitely KDE bug!

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Simon Andric]

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Rex Dieter]

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

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--- Comment #15 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
Problem is there is no output from xembedsniproxy.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[David Edmundson]

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--- Comment #14 from David Edmundson  ---
Run xembedsniproxy from a terminal and see output.

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Filing bugs to those applications is unrelated to us fixing our compatibility
layer.

If you do that, I'll check this.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #13 from Nate Graham  ---
Aleksey, you have to understand that this is mostly a volunteer effort.
Resources are *vastly* more scarce than they are in a multi-billion-dollar
commercial company like Microsoft. Maintaining compatibility layers has a cost
measured in less development of new features and fewer other bugs getting
fixed. If you want greater effort put into this legacy system, you are welcome
to jump on board and submit patches! :) That's basically how things get done
around here: people working on things that they feel are important.

StatusNotifierItem is a FreeDesktop spec that Linux application developers
*should* be using. It's 13 years old. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask
developers to adopt a mature cross-desktop standard that's more than a decade
old.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

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--- Comment #12 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
Nate Graham, too much applications and too much dependent frameworks like mono,
electron, etc. Think it is DE stuff. Strange to me you ignoring tons (even
legacy) of applications, like I'm talking not to open source people but to
microsoft. Even MS people pay much attentions talking to people and improving
their code recent years.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385828

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--- Comment #11 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
>You can run "xembedsniproxy" manually (kill the existing one first) 
>to see if there's much in the logs.
Where can I find its logs?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #10 from Nate Graham  ---
Thanks David. Aleksey, as David mentioned, please file bugs against those
programs. It doesn't really make sense to invest more time in legacy
compatibility code for this when there is a perfectly functional modern
alternative for 3rd developers to use.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[David Edmundson]

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--- Comment #9 from David Edmundson  ---
These are all apps that use the legacy, deprecated X system tray.

Please file bugs with these applications to use StatusNotifierItem.

We do have a compatabiblity layer, but not much time is put in.

You can run "xembedsniproxy" manually (kill the existing one first) to see if
there's much in the logs.

There are no patches in 5.11, that aren't also in 5.10.5

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[David Edmundson]

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

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--- Comment #7 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
Riot returned on reboot, Upwork and Keepass - no, gone forever.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #6 from Nate Graham  ---
Thanks for clarifying.

So there are actually two cases here:
1. ksysGuard is missing some icons
2. The system tray is missing one icon

Do the missing icon in the tray sometimes return on a reboot, or are they it
just gone forever?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

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--- Comment #5 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
Created attachment 108403
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=108403=edit
No icons

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385828

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--- Comment #4 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
Screenshot of what? :) No icon? Ok. Keepass "icon" is marked by red arrow. For
upwork there is not icon at all.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham  ---
Can you provide a screenshot?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

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--- Comment #2 from Aleksey Kontsevich  ---
>In what context are the icons gone?
Do not know.

>Are you talking about icons from the apps themselves, 
>or icons from the Breeze theme? 
>From apps.

>Or are you talking about launcher items on your Task Manager?
Systray

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
In what context are the icons gone? Are you talking about icons from the apps
themselves, or icons from the Breeze theme? Or are you talking about launcher
items on your Task Manager?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 385828] Icons disappears in KDE 5.11

[Aleksey Kontsevich]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385828

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  Component|Icon Applet |System Tray

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