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Dear Bug Submitter,
This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
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--- Comment #32 from Gerald Cox ---
Here is a response from: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1912046
In case you didn't see it.
I pushed a pull request to beef up systemd's docs a bit:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/18137.
It
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--- Comment #31 from David Edmundson ---
can someone direct me to an ISO/Virtualbox Image which I can use to reproduce?
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--- Comment #30 from Göran Uddeborg ---
Yes, starting my (plasma) session from GDM everything seems to work properly.
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--- Comment #29 from Gerald Cox ---
(In reply to Göran Uddeborg from comment #28)
> Created attachment 134407 [details]
> Beginning of wayland-errors
>
> The symptoms of this issue are the following, right?
> - The desktop background is black.
> -
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--- Comment #28 from Göran Uddeborg ---
Created attachment 134407
--> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=134407=edit
Beginning of wayland-errors
The symptoms of this issue are the following, right?
- The desktop background is black.
- There is
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--- Comment #27 from Gerald Cox ---
(In reply to Rex Dieter from comment #26)
> Well I'm stumped, you're effectively unconditionally running dbus-daemon (to
> replace an already-running dbus-broker) and that somehow works. Using
> dbus-broker doesn't
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--- Comment #26 from Rex Dieter ---
Well I'm stumped, you're effectively unconditionally running dbus-daemon (to
replace an already-running dbus-broker) and that somehow works. Using
dbus-broker doesn't work (for you). We still have no idea why, and
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--- Comment #25 from Gerald Cox ---
(In reply to Rex Dieter from comment #24)
> Anyone experiencing issues (Gerald?), try adding this near the top of
> /usr/libexec/plasma-dbus-run-session-if-needed
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> # probe dbus first
> qdbus-qt5 >& /dev/null ||:
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--- Comment #24 from Rex Dieter ---
Anyone experiencing issues (Gerald?), try adding this near the top of
/usr/libexec/plasma-dbus-run-session-if-needed
# probe dbus first
qdbus-qt5 >& /dev/null ||:
(before the check: if [ -z
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--- Comment #23 from Rex Dieter ---
Sorry, just realized that was mentioned first comment.
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--- Comment #22 from Rex Dieter ---
Part of the problem too may be that fedora switched to using dbus-broker by
default instead of dbus-daemon awhile back (and dbus-run-session is for the
latter),
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--- Comment #21 from Gerald Cox ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #20)
> that echo was before the if statement?
Yes, I put that in to show the value. It is still part of the if statement,
but since it exists the if statement isn't
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--- Comment #20 from David Edmundson ---
that echo was before the if statement?
And commenting out
"if [ -z "${DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS}" ]
then
drs=dbus-run-session
fi"
magically makes things work?
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--- Comment #19 from Gerald Cox ---
Thanks for the quick response. Here is what was produced by the script:
dbus_session_bus_address unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string:
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--- Comment #18 from David Edmundson ---
So we think DBus is started, but DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set?
If we're unsure, lets add some
echo HERE >> /tmp/log
type messages throughout that script
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--- Comment #16 from martc...@gmx.net ---
Thanks for the fix.
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--- Comment #13 from David Edmundson ---
Those setups don't get wayland anyway, but it's certainly the easiest path to
resolving the bug, so I'll make an updated patch doing that.
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--- Comment #12 from Fabian Vogt ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #11)
> >There's simply no alternative. That seems to be the consensus on
> >https://github.com/bus1/dbus-broker/issues/145 as well.
>
> Ack, but I've personally changed my
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--- Comment #11 from David Edmundson ---
>There's simply no alternative. That seems to be the consensus on
>https://github.com/bus1/dbus-broker/issues/145 as well.
Ack, but I've personally changed my mind about whether it's our responsibility
to do
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--- Comment #8 from Ardith Metz ---
Gnome 3.34 adopted systemd for start/manage session:
https://blogs.gnome.org/benzea/2019/10/01/gnome-3-34-is-now-managed-using-systemd/
I hope KDE join it some day. I saw some effort in
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--- Comment #7 from David Edmundson ---
Yes, that's why this bug is still open.
That doesn't mean I'm just going to naively replace one bug for another.
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--- Comment #6 from Ardith Metz ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #5)
> We absolutely cannot do that as a strict dependency.
Then don't and simply assume that system has dbus already started which is true
for most if not all distros. The
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--- Comment #5 from David Edmundson ---
We absolutely cannot do that as a strict dependency.
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--- Comment #4 from Ardith Metz ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #3)
> That's true only if one has dbus socket activated.
Switching plasma session to run as systemd user service would allow to create
dependency on dbus.socket service.
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--- Comment #2 from Ardith Metz ---
The issue is not about that you should rely on dbus-broker but about that you
shouldn't rely on dbus-daemon and be agnostic of whatever dbus implementation
is used. In other words prepare for that dbus-run-session
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--- Comment #1 from Christoph Feck ---
I am tempted to close this, and ask for a notification once Ubuntu LTS
supported dbus-broker for at least two years.
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