[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Noah Davis]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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   |93b3b2d484b50336547547ba1f4 |419e95198831e167538696285b7
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--- Comment #36 from Noah Davis  ---
Git commit 0b3419e95198831e167538696285b7927c9b150d by Noah Davis, on behalf of
Kristen McWilliam.
Committed on 22/10/2023 at 15:01.
Pushed by ndavis into branch 'master'.

feat: add window shadows to the capture options

Right now screenshots of windows always have drop shadows. This change
makes the shadows optional. Resolves a 7-year-old bug report in
conjunction with an incoming change to kwin.

M  +12   -0dbus/org.kde.Spectacle.xml
M  +3-0doc/index.docbook
M  +5-22   src/CommandLineOptions.h
M  +10   -0src/Gui/CaptureSettingsColumn.qml
M  +13   -0src/Gui/OptionsMenu.cpp
M  +1-0src/Gui/OptionsMenu.h
M  +4-0src/Gui/SettingsDialog/spectacle.kcfg
M  +2-1src/Platforms/ImagePlatform.h
M  +7-1src/Platforms/ImagePlatformKWin.cpp
M  +3-1src/Platforms/ImagePlatformKWin.h
M  +60   -36   src/Platforms/ImagePlatformXcb.cpp
M  +21   -6src/Platforms/ImagePlatformXcb.h
M  +2-1src/Platforms/PlatformNull.cpp
M  +5-1src/Platforms/PlatformNull.h
M  +13   -11   src/SpectacleCore.cpp
M  +4-3src/SpectacleCore.h
M  +6-4src/SpectacleDBusAdapter.cpp
M  +2-2src/SpectacleDBusAdapter.h

https://invent.kde.org/graphics/spectacle/-/commit/0b3419e95198831e167538696285b7927c9b150d

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Noah Davis]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #35 from Noah Davis  ---
Git commit 5c8b85861e93b3b2d484b50336547547ba1f4b38 by Noah Davis, on behalf of
Kristen McWilliam.
Committed on 22/10/2023 at 14:34.
Pushed by ndavis into branch 'master'.

plugins/screenshot: make window shadows optional

Right now screenshots of windows always have drop shadows. This change
makes the shadows optional. Resolves a 7-year-old bug report in
conjunction with an incoming change to Spectacle.

M  +6-0src/plugins/screenshot/org.kde.KWin.ScreenShot2.xml
M  +3-0src/plugins/screenshot/screenshot.cpp
M  +1-0src/plugins/screenshot/screenshot.h
M  +5-0src/plugins/screenshot/screenshotdbusinterface2.cpp

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

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--- Comment #34 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
A possibly relevant merge request was started @
https://invent.kde.org/graphics/spectacle/-/merge_requests/272

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Noah Davis]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #32 from Noah Davis  ---
(In reply to Jack from comment #31)
> Can you explain why not?  Many of the earlier comments in this bug implied
> it is quite possible, but as I read it, would take patches to both spectacle
> and kwin.  Is it really not possible, or is it just waiting for a PR and
> agreement that kwin be changed?

I was referring to the fact that there's currently no way to do it in
Spectacle. I didn't see that you had earlier comments, so I suppose you didn't
need to read that. Spectacle is switching to using the screenshot KWin plugin
whenever it's available, so the patching would have to be done entirely within
KWin.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Jack]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #31 from Jack  ---
Can you explain why not?  Many of the earlier comments in this bug implied it
is quite possible, but as I read it, would take patches to both spectacle and
kwin.  Is it really not possible, or is it just waiting for a PR and agreement
that kwin be changed?

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[Noah Davis]

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--- Comment #30 from Noah Davis  ---
The biggest reason why it hasn't been done is there's currently no way to do
it.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #29 from Nate Graham  ---
Nobody has done it yet.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Jack]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #28 from Jack  ---
I'm starting a new round of Manual updating, and tripped over this again -
having completely forgotten about it.  I'm now looking for an alternative to
spectacle.  I'm curious if this is not being done because someone objects or
just because nobody has stepped up to actually do the work?

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Martin Walch]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Ewald Müller]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #27 from Ewald Müller  ---
(In reply to Peter Wu from comment #12)
> While Martin rejects the idea of a checkbox in Spectacle to disable shadow
> effects, can I vote to add such an option? Right now I am taking screenshots
> for presentation slides where a border effect is already present. I now have
> to manually remove the border which is extra work.

This affects me to and it's very annoying; think of the extra amount of black
ink when the screenshot has to be printed.

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[Ewald Müller]

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Thiago Sueto]

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Prajna Sariputra]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Eduardo]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #26 from Eduardo  ---
This is a must-have. These borders are incredibly annoying, every window
screenshot that I take I have to open an image editor and manually crop the
borders. The first time I saw it, it caused a really bad impression, I didn't
see it as a feature, but as a bug, and that's still how I see it today, despite
it being the intentional behavior picked by the developer. When we take
screenshots on Windows, Android, iOS, macOS, Gnome, it never comes with those
borders. This "innovative" behavior is not what users are expecting, will
always negatively surprise new users, and will continue to annoy users until it
is fixed.  This can't be ignored. It is bad for users, it is bad for KDE. I
don't mean to sound rude, that's just my honest feedback as a user.

I understand it was done this way to fix a bug related to the corners, but it
is not the best solution, we should pursue some kind of smooth transition of
the rounded corners. It shouldn't be hard to do, and we could even look up &
borrow code from other pieces of free software that already implement this
solution.

I think the default behavior should be borderless and I don't think an option
to add the borders is even necessary.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Zamundaaa]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #25 from Zamundaaa  ---
*** Bug 444133 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Alexander Wilms]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[ratijas]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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Adding myself to CC…

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Guo Yunhe]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #23 from Guo Yunhe  ---
Looking for the same feature...

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[KDE Neon user]

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Felix Miata]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #22 from Felix Miata  ---
I deselect "Enable compositor on startup" automatically on first use ever since
global disabling began preventing Plasma from starting at all, and get the
annoying borders anyway. :(

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Merritt]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #21 from Merritt  ---
I've been trying to figure out why my screenshots looked weird, finally looked
into it and found it was this capturing shadows thing.

Disabling compositing is a decent workaround for now, but this is my vote for a
proper setting to change this behaviour.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Sebastian Gottfried]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Paul]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #20 from Paul  ---
(In reply to Boudhayan Gupta from comment #16)
> @Paul: That will do absolutely nothing, since that part of the code is only
> used if you're not running under KWin.

In comment #2 it was implied, at least that's how I read it, that this
shadow/border was a "feature" added to spectacle.  I guess I was wrong, which
seems the norm these days, argh... ;)

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Johannes E. Krause]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #19 from Johannes E. Krause  ---
(In reply to Henrik Fehlauer from comment #8)
> Reading
> https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2018/05/shadows-in-window-screenshots/
> , support for disabling shadows seems unlikely. Note that I learned about
> this only from the blog post – Was anybody else from #Spectacle informed
> about this in advance or involved in the decision?

i'm not sure if we're still talking about the same thing. but in Bug 404143 i
specifically talked about the situation where you disable showing window
decorations, but it doesn't remove the shadow, which i would argue is part of
the decoration.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Boudhayan Gupta]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #18 from Boudhayan Gupta  ---
Why would we do that? We (KDE) own the KWin code, let's fix it properly!

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[David Redondo]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #17 from David Redondo  ---
I'm not an expert but couldn't we crop the image after the fact to get the rid
of the shadow? I think we could get the dimensions from KWin maybe?

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Boudhayan Gupta]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #16 from Boudhayan Gupta  ---
@Paul: That will do absolutely nothing, since that part of the code is only
used if you're not running under KWin.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Paul]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #15 from Paul  ---
Ridding spectacle of this shadow trumps consistency with KWin...

Go on... remove the offending code... you know you want to... :)

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Boudhayan Gupta]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #14 from Boudhayan Gupta  ---
There's code in Spectacle that does this, but this is just for consistency with
KWin's way of doing this. If someone removed this from KWin, I'll gladly remove
the offending code from Spectacle. I personally think the drop shadow is
completely unnecessary anyway.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #13 from Nate Graham  ---
Martin is not the Spectacle maintainer or even a developer. He also is no
longer the KWin maintainer not even very active there anymore. Decisions can be
changed; I would not rule this out. I think it's mostly a matter of someone
writing a patch do to it.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Peter Wu]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #12 from Peter Wu  ---
While Martin rejects the idea of a checkbox in Spectacle to disable shadow
effects, can I vote to add such an option? Right now I am taking screenshots
for presentation slides where a border effect is already present. I now have to
manually remove the border which is extra work.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Ganton]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Rog131]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #11 from Rog131  ---
*** Bug 404143 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Vladimír Vondruš]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Roc Vallès]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #10 from Roc Vallès  ---
I'm seeing this issue while running spectacle with i3 as window manager.

Screenshots end up being the naked window with a huge transparent frame.

This is the case whether include decorations is ticked or unticked.

This is doubtlessly very broken behavior.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #9 from Nate Graham  ---
No, I don't believe anyone was contacted.

It's not just the Dedoimedo guy. We have people wanting to turn them off so
they can improve the look of their documentation too. Heck, from time to time I
find myself wanting to turn them off or replace them with small ones for the
screenshots I post to my blog. I think there are legitimate use cases.

>From a UI perspective, what I would like is a set of options for how to handle
a window's shadows:
- Use existing shadows
- Replace existing shadows with a very small tasteful shadow (Window Under
cursor mode seems to already do a variant of this; it would be nice to make it
a universal option)
- Omit shadows entirely, and use alpha to ensure that any rounded corners look
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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Henrik Fehlauer]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

--- Comment #8 from Henrik Fehlauer  ---
Reading
https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2018/05/shadows-in-window-screenshots/,
support for disabling shadows seems unlikely. Note that I learned about this
only from the blog post – Was anybody else from #Spectacle informed about this
in advance or involved in the decision?

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Gregor Mi]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #7 from Gregor Mi  ---
Since years, I use the workaround of choosing "Rectangular Region" and manually
draw the capture rectangle when I want to capture a window including title bar.
It produces no pixel-perfect results but it is much quicker than to remove the
shadow manually in an image editor.

> As a workaround, just disable compositing temporarily, e.g. by pressing 
> Shift+Alt+F12.

Thanks for this hint! I tried it and it works as a good alternative workaround
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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Jack]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #6 from Jack  ---
I absolutely agree.  This is costing me much time in capturing screenshots for
a user manual.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Henrik Fehlauer]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

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--- Comment #5 from Henrik Fehlauer  ---
I agree there should be an option to disable shadows in screenshots.

As a workaround, just disable compositing temporarily, e.g. by pressing
Shift+Alt+F12. Alternatively, disable "Include window titlebar and borders" if
applicable in your use case.

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[Spectacle] [Bug 372408] Option to omit shadow and transparent border from windows in Active Window and Window Under Cursor modes

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372408

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Spectacle Capture Active|Option to omit shadow and
   |Window includes Unwanted|transparent border from
   |Margin Outside Active   |windows in Active Window
   |Window  |and Window Under Cursor
   ||modes
   Severity|normal  |wishlist

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