[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-23 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-23 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

--- Comment #16 from Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell 
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A Screencast Demonstrating That This Affects All Qt 6 Applications

(In reply to Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell from comment #11)

> I suppose we can consider CUPS the most *significant* culprit, but on 
> Windows, this is instantaneous, so there's more at play.

Per [`bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1279792#p1279792`][1], I've
ascertained that the cause is `avahi-daemon.service` (or, at least, its default
configuration). Consequently, I have filed
https://github.com/avahi/avahi/issues/701#issue-3087466051 to, hopefully,
replace this. If not, it's at worst a Qt issue, rather than a KDE one, since it
affects a custom PyQt6 application of mine, too.

[1]:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1279792#p1279792:~:text=but%20after%20I%20setup%20my%20network(with%20help%20of%20a%20question%20created%20by%20me%20on%20unix.stackexchange.com)%20I%20discovered%20that%20problem%20isn't%20cups%20and%20isn't%20network%2C%20the%20problem%20is%20the%20avahi%2Ddaemon%2C%20if%20it's%20runnig%20the%20cups%20is%20slow%2C%20if%20it%20isn't%20cups%20is%20normal...

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-22 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

--- Comment #15 from Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell 
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(In reply to Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell from comment #11)

...Ignore that NextCloud URI. I wrote that comment in a text editor, and meant
to leave that as a note to self to remove once I published the comment.
Apologies for the noise.

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-22 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

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2025-05-22 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-22 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

--- Comment #11 from Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell 
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A KCrash For Krita

(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #9)

> Why were you trying to open the print dialog if you don't have a printer? To 
> make a PDF?

Yes. I thought it might be a useful way to visualise (or, crudely, backup)
keyboard shortcuts.

(In reply to Mike from comment #10)

> there is at least one timeout in the code path, maybe two.

I've captured a Perf and STrace record, if of use. I've plonked them in
https://collaborate.kde.org/apps/files/files/684451?dir=/%27Custom%27%23.dir/%27Publicly%20Accessible%27%23.dir/%27bugs.KDE.org%27%23.dir/%27504487%27%23.dir,
but shall attach them once I've submitted this comment.

About STrace, I saw, whilst the printer is loading, a multitude of ultimately
quite quick calls, repeatedly occurring until the dialog appears:

> 0.48 read(28, "W", 10) = 1 <0.11>  
> 0.30 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050086>  
> 0.050137 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050083>  
> 0.050127 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050084>  
> 0.050134 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050091>  
> 0.050139 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050088>  
> 0.050154 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050088>  
> 0.050147 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050088>  
> 0.050135 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050088>  
> 0.050134 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050078>  
> 0.050122 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050081>  
> 0.050126 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050080>  
> 0.050126 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050097>  
> 0.050146 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050041>  
> 0.050095 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050088>  
> 0.050139 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050089>  
> 0.050148 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050090>  
> 0.050160 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 0 
> (Timeout) <0.050088>  
> 0.050151 poll([{fd=28, events=POLLIN}, {fd=30, events=POLLIN}], 2, 50) = 1 
> ([{fd=30, revents=POLLIN}]) <0.048304>  
> 0.048380 recvmsg(30, {msg_name=NULL, msg_namelen=0, 
> msg_iov=[{iov_base="l\4\1\1\0\0\0\0\220\0\0\0\215\0\0\0\1\1o\0\31\0\0\0/Client1"...,
>  iov_len=2048}], msg_iovlen=1, msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC}, 
> MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 320 <0.34>

>From what I see, this doesn't occur before or after I invoke the dialog.

...About CUPS:

> One thing you could try is to turn off your networking, then try the print 
> and see if the dialog still takes "a while" to present.  CUPS will do some 
> IPP/network "stuff" to discover printers on your net.
> 
> You could disable CUPS `sudo systemctl stop cups.service` and then try the 
> print and see what happens there.

I stopped it, and verified it was:

> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; disabled; preset: 
> disabled)

This made it almost ⪆ 4s faster, but it still takes ⪅ 2.5s to appear, which is
still bad on a system with 32 GiB of DDR5 SDRAM! 😆 However, disabling Ethernet
reduced it by *maybe* ⪅ 0.5s, if I'm not merely experiencing confirmation bias
/ placebo / whatever. I suppose we can consider CUPS the most *significant*
culprit, but on Windows, this is instantaneous, so there's more at play.

(In reply to Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell from comment #6)

> This *does not* affect Krita, nor SkanPage

It *does* affect Krita too, per
https://discuss.kde.org/t/is-a-kde-application-not-providing-a-bug-reporting-address-a-bug/34640?u=rokejulianlockhart.
The reason SkanPage doesn't appear affected appears to be that it solely
exposes one keyboard shortcut. At least that demonstrates that the quantity of
shortcuts affects invocation time. I'll presume you knew this, though, you
backtrace-reading nutters.

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-19 Thread Mike
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

--- Comment #10 from Mike  ---
Nate is correct, this is essentially an "app" using print services provided by
Qt.  In my case, I get modal behavior immediately, meaning once the print
button is clicked, I can't close the window while waiting for the modal print
dialog to present.  Even then, it still acts modal.  And I too, am on Qt6.9.

I'm more familiar with the config/setup side of printer management, not so much
print services provided by Qt, but I can tell you this: there is at least one
timeout in the code path, maybe two.  It's been a while, but IIRC, Qt is
looking for/initializing print services backend (CUPS) and then CUPS is
looking/waiting for it's own backends to enumerate.  The latter can take a some
seconds I've noticed and it appears to be directly related to not just CUPS
backends installed, but also the number of "filters" you have installed, ie.
cups-filters, hplip-*, epson, etc...

One thing you could try is to turn off your networking, then try the print and
see if the dialog still takes "a while" to present.  CUPS will do some
IPP/network "stuff" to discover printers on your net.

In addition, you could disable CUPS `sudo systemctl stop cups.service` and then
try the print and see what happens there.  Turn it back on later with systemctl
start cups, fyi.

Not sure this helps but it might give some clues on where to dig in first.

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-19 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

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  Component|general |general
  Version First|6.14.0  |unspecified
Reported In||

--- Comment #9 from Nate Graham  ---
The fact that the print dialog takes a long time to appear when it shouldn't is
probably the real issue to dig into here; if it was fast, you wouldn't try to
close its parent window — and in fact could not, because by the time you tried,
the print dialog would already be visible.

I'm not sure there's much we can do here though, since the print dialog comes
from Qt directly.

CCing a printer-savvy person who may know more.

P.S. why were you trying to open the print dialog if you don't have a printer?
To make a PDF?

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

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[kde] [Bug 504487] [ANR] Closing the "Keyboard Shortcuts" window whilst it is waiting for the "Print" window to appear causes a crash.

2025-05-18 Thread Roke Julian Lockhart Beedell
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504487

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