[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-09-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-08-15 Thread Thiago Sueto
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-07-30 Thread Łukasz Szeremeta
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-06-11 Thread Nate Graham
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-16 Thread Rafael Linux User
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--- Comment #104 from Rafael Linux User  ---
I wish we could have with that THE solution for all this years of headaches
concerning this issue.

Thank you

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-16 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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--- Comment #103 from pos...@posteo.eu ---
(In reply to Rafael Linux User from comment #102)
> Nate, I can't see anything about that
> https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2019/Ideas
> Where is info about what you are talking about?
> Thank you

You find it here:
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#5417220300079104

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-16 Thread Rafael Linux User
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--- Comment #102 from Rafael Linux User  ---
Nate, I can't see anything about that https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2019/Ideas
Where is info about what you are talking about?
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-15 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #101 from Nate Graham  ---
In fact, the kio-fuse project is being worked on for Google Summer of Code this
year!

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-13 Thread Nate Graham
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-10 Thread Andrew Travneff
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-05 Thread Rafael Linux User
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--- Comment #100 from Rafael Linux User  ---
(In reply to Jan Przybylak from comment #99)
> I found this implementation that mostly works:
> https://gitlab.com/Vogtinator/kio-fuse

I understand that could be a reference for developers, but it's not a
transparent and transparent solution for users.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-05-03 Thread Jan Przybylak
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--- Comment #99 from Jan Przybylak  ---
I found this implementation that mostly works:
https://gitlab.com/Vogtinator/kio-fuse

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-04-14 Thread Jean Revertera
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-04-14 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #98 from Nate Graham  ---
This is currently being worked on as a Google Summer of Code project!

The reason why we can't use GNOME's GIO+GVFS is because the architecture is
completely different. Adapting it to work with our stuff, if it was even
possible, would be an enormous engineering challenge on the order of just
rolling our own.

It would be like adapting a jet engine to power a tugboat. You *could*, but why
not just build a tugboat engine instead?

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-04-14 Thread Jason Straight
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--- Comment #97 from Jason Straight  ---
(In reply to Bo Simonsen from comment #95)
> (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #66)
> > Any update, Bo? :)
> 
> There are really issues with kiofuse. Tried to transfer a relatively big
> file, got me 6 mbit/s and intensive CPU load, with plain sftp I got 100
> mbit/s. I saw in the log
> 
> log_kio_sftp: seek, offset =  31170560
> log_kio_sftp: write, offset =  0 , bytes =  4096
> 
> So kio_sftp is called just to write 4K, because "cp" does it. KIO provides
> file_copy, file_move etc for these operations. FTP has shortcomings as well,
> because no seek is possible kiofuse is not able to mount the ftp kioslave. 
> I am quite sure an analysis will discover other shortcomings as well. I must
> say I am not really fan of inventing the wheel again here, maybe using
> existing fuse technology like sshfs is a better choice, or gvfs.

You're lucky. Most of the time my kio powered transfers just die. Single small
files are fine. If I copy anything large, like an entire folder, or an iso,
over ssh or smb, it almost always just dies.

I gave up on it. I just use nemo file manager for anything to do with remote
FS. It's too frustrating.

I know there are other features concerning KIO slaves that people don't want to
give up, when you cant do file operations with a file manager, that's kind of a
moot point.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-04-14 Thread Jan Przybylak
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--- Comment #96 from Jan Przybylak  ---
I agree, if there are existing solutions, I'd just use those.
I don't know however if GVfs lacks required features that KIO has or there are
other reasons not to use it in KDE.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-04-08 Thread Michael Weghorn
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-04-03 Thread Sergey
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-01-29 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-01-27 Thread Bo Simonsen
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--- Comment #95 from Bo Simonsen  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #66)
> Any update, Bo? :)

There are really issues with kiofuse. Tried to transfer a relatively big file,
got me 6 mbit/s and intensive CPU load, with plain sftp I got 100 mbit/s. I saw
in the log

log_kio_sftp: seek, offset =  31170560
log_kio_sftp: write, offset =  0 , bytes =  4096

So kio_sftp is called just to write 4K, because "cp" does it. KIO provides
file_copy, file_move etc for these operations. FTP has shortcomings as well,
because no seek is possible kiofuse is not able to mount the ftp kioslave. 
I am quite sure an analysis will discover other shortcomings as well. I must
say I am not really fan of inventing the wheel again here, maybe using existing
fuse technology like sshfs is a better choice, or gvfs.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-01-22 Thread Yamashita Ren
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-01-03 Thread David Edmundson
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--- Comment #94 from David Edmundson  ---
>Uh, no. KDE applications are expected to use KIO. 

Absolutely, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. 

What I'm saying is that any code paths that check the url.scheme() == file and
take a different path need to still go through KIO. I can think of at least 3
examples in plasma over the last year where this happened. Otherwise putting
FUSE mounts on the system has the risk of making our own apps worse.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-01-03 Thread Konstantin Kharlamov
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--- Comment #93 from Konstantin Kharlamov  ---
(In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #92)
> > First pre-requisite step is making all KDE apps robust to blocking calls on 
> > files which it thinks are safe as they're on the local file system.
> 
> Uh, no. KDE applications are expected to use KIO. You would have to fix all
> _other_ applications, which don't use the KIO API. I guess applications
> using GIO are also safe, because (I hope) GIO was also designed
> asynchronous. But POSIX API is synchronous, and users of those applications
> just have to live with UI hangs unless they use separate threads for IO.

It's okay to use KIO, nobody advises to drop it. Idea is just to improve a
usability on FUSE mounts a little bit.

You can't reasonably expect every existing app out there to implement a new
protocol just to make it compatible with KDE.

Also, imagine how bloated servers would become if every terminal utility would
implement KIO just because on KDE-powered desktops it's the way to go.

-

The main selling point of FUSE is that nobody have to implement anything, it
just works™.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2019-01-03 Thread Christoph Feck
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--- Comment #92 from Christoph Feck  ---
> First pre-requisite step is making all KDE apps robust to blocking calls on 
> files which it thinks are safe as they're on the local file system.

Uh, no. KDE applications are expected to use KIO. You would have to fix all
_other_ applications, which don't use the KIO API. I guess applications using
GIO are also safe, because (I hope) GIO was also designed asynchronous. But
POSIX API is synchronous, and users of those applications just have to live
with UI hangs unless they use separate threads for IO.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-28 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-21 Thread Mathieu Roy
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--- Comment #91 from Mathieu Roy  ---
I think we can all thanks David Edmunson to remind us how important it is for
the end users not to disturb too much developers, since they are clearly so
devoted to fix this issue in particular.

So please, agree with David Edmunson to let the developers talk about how to
fix this important issue, that they cared so much about between 2004 and 201..
2019, even though this issue does not exists on any other desktop. 

We should not bother them with stupid ideas as to set a bounty for it or fund
development. If we pay attention what a good guy like David says, they clearly
do not care of it. And this guy must matter since his statement about how
happily KDE trashed massive amount of (working features) code to replace them
by some-init-that-replace-all was an omen.

Thanks to keep all the good work. I hope the conduct of conduct allows me to
tell that KDE 1 was an improvement over Windows 98/NT 4.0. while KDE current is
much less usable than Windows 10 as desktop (but even 7/8...). But who cares
about the feeling of KDE 1 users, eh!? 

Please accept our apologies, we should never have suggested to sponsor any
development.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-21 Thread David Edmundson
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--- Comment #90 from David Edmundson  ---
Even if we did, (which would be a waay bigger project than what's proposed
here) they don't have a 1:1 mapping with regards to spawning/teardown - it'd
need every client app to change which isn't do-able in the 5.x series.

Lets keep things on topic and not hide the dev comments.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-21 Thread Alexander Schlarb
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--- Comment #89 from Alexander Schlarb  ---
Is there any reason by KDE really needs it's own remote vfs abstraction system
and cannot use GIO/GVFS instead as suggested in comment #6? (There is even some
code to start off for inspiration from even if its like 10 years old.)

Some selling points GVFS/GIO has over KIO (mostly subjective, but meh):

  * Already has the mentioned FUSE layer
  * Used and maintained outside the KDE community
  * Copying many small files (locally!) is a lot faster
 - (Although it's still insanely slower than good old `cp A B`.)
  * Finally having a standard would probably make a lot more external devs
happy to add native support for this (I don't think that standard could be KIO,
since it's so KDE/Qt/C++-centric while GIO basically only requires GLib)
  * (Doesn't crash on MTP [might just happen to be an issue with all mobile
devices I ever owned, but it never happens when using GIO instead].)

I'm honestly interested in the devs opinions here since: There may well be
something obvious I'm not seeing.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-21 Thread David Edmundson
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--- Comment #88 from David Edmundson  ---
Splitting this into multiple small tasks:

First pre-requisite step is making all KDE apps robust to blocking calls on
files which it thinks are safe as they're on the local file system. Adding fuse
mounts before that is introducing a ticking bomb onto your computer - and one
reason why wanting to add FUSE mounts anyway is met with negativity.

Create a samba mount (manually or ksambamounter) unplug the cable and try to
find code paths that freeze. Most common ones are fixed, it'll be obscure
places with context menus, favourites, bookmarks, symlinks on desktop that will
trigger this. etc.  If/when they do, get a backtrace and open a new bug.

If you want to help this get solved, this is the most helpful step readers here
can do without any coding. 

The remaining steps are mostly outlined in comment #44 (which is buried in
people spamming).

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-21 Thread ariasuni
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--- Comment #87 from ariasuni  ---
I would happily drop a hundred bucks on a fundraising/bounty campaign if this
would mean somebody competent is being paid to work on this.

Nate, do you think this is something that can organized and coordinated by KDE?

I’d like at least to see what’s reasonably achievable and how much money it
would cost. And maybe we could divide this goal into easier-to-achieve goal so
that we could start working toward it.

This request is stuck for so long now; maybe as a community we should try to
tackle it differently, and think about it outside the limited scope of a bug
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread Rafael Linux User
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--- Comment #86 from Rafael Linux User  ---
I agree with Mathieu Roy and Jean-Francois Juneau comments, even last talking
about contributing with donations. I'm sure none of us try to understimate any
developers work, but the reality is that in my case, after more of eight years
using Linux and KDE, I can't recommend to any on my job to migrate to KDE
precisely cause every day we need to do our job, not fighting with issues
(caused from Plasma or not) accessing FTP or SMB files in an heterogenous way.
I access each day to FTP and SMB local services, but each day I must take into
account that it's not the same if I open a remote file from Krusader (or
Dolphin) that from Caja, or if I compare remote files with Meld or with Kompare
or KDiff, or if I open a remote file with Kate or with Atom ... it's really a
headache for a simple user that want to work transparently from Linux systems.
As other users said, it's 2018, and I can see KDE desktop changed his name a
lot of time ago to Plasma, and each new version of Plasma I expected to see
this issue solved, but at this point I can't recommend anyone to jump Linux if
they really want to work with files outside their PCs. 

In fact, is not the unique issue that is not solved and even not recognized,
despite it's easy to verify they: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351175

Some times, as a Linux user and a Plasma fan, seeing no patches for some issues
make me not want to notify issues cause seems my efforts to notify this
problems are good for nothing. You can be sure non English speakers (like me)
have an extra effort to try to report issues to developers.

Anyway, I give thanks and best wishes to KDE community and developers for their
day to day job.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread Mathieu Roy
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--- Comment #85 from Mathieu Roy  ---
Nate, you are right: we should have made a bounty/kickstarted this earlier. Way
earlier. Probably we did not because many would have though it would be done
anyway. That was a mistake on our part, all of us following this reports since
more than a decade.

This KDE bug tracking system should have an integrated kickstarter-alike
system!   Instead of adding ourselves to CC, we would add ourselves to a
pledge, I am sure at some point we could raise some reasonable amount of cash.

I personally unfortunately lost interest in KDE because that, and many other
little things (I wont say what it relates to, to avoid off-topic flamewar),
forced me not only to no longer use it (granted: not so meaningful, I nowadays
use mostly use awesomewm - so I could deal with it and work around it) but I
also was forced to make non-geek people (parents, in-laws and such) I am
administering the computer of use something else because things like this had
to work. But if someone is kickstarting something about it, I would donate a
few coins still :-) and I am sure I would not be alone.

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2018-12-20 Thread Jean-Francois Juneau
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--- Comment #84 from Jean-Francois Juneau  ---
If we raised enough money is it a project that developers at Blue Systems could
take?

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread Thomas Merkel
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread Marcel Partap
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--- Comment #83 from Marcel Partap  ---
It's clear that the current global pool of FLOSS maintainers is overloaded and
we as open source community should strive to set up more attractive incentive
systems and get more people involved in development in 2019. We at
https://OpenSourceEcology.de are trying to get industry investing in open
source hardware, which is difficult. OSEG wants to team up with the free
software free knowledge student club https://fsfw-dresden.de to circulate more
of our free software USB sticks. With support of our Studentenrat, we gave away
120 8GB-sticks with a KDE debian live to uni freshers this year.. The next idea
is to give these sticks with live working office & pim suite & fresh builds of
freecad to f.e. industrial engineers to check out as a tool for business and
offering them to invest into resolving specific bugs and implementing specific
features (c.f. blog post
https://fsfw-dresden.de/2018/06/interview-sander-finanzierung-freie-software.html
"Interview mit Prof. Sander: Finanzierung von freier Software"). If we can
offer a better more accessible ecosystem (faircoin bounties, public monuments,
free chocolate? .. c.f. https://fsfw-dresden.de/2018/08/funding-floss.html
"Funding Freedom Initiative - Idee zur Finanzierung freier Softwareprojekte")
for this, we might have a chance to convert more of society to use and develop
open source systems.

Or we wait until http://OpenAI.com learns to code and have the AI agents fix
the bugs : )

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #82 from Nate Graham  ---
Indeed, it is very frustrating. Though I am a KDE developer, I am also a user
of non-KDE software on Plasma and have to deal with the fact that my family
entertainment machine's samba share is less usable that it is on Windows or
macOS machines. I get it. We all do. It's a pain in the butt.

You need to understand that KDE, like most open-source software communities, is
predominately a volunteer organization. There are some paid developers, but
they are paid generally to work on the things that their employers want.

I agree 100% that solving this problem in one way or another is an important
strategic issue for Plasma adoption. But you need to have patience. If you
(like me) don't have the technical skills to contribute, a more productive
approach would be to try to go find developers who are interested, or start a
bounty of more than $2,000 or so to fund the development, or try to find a
company that uses Plasma internally and wants to sponsor the work.

Etc.

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2018-12-20 Thread Jean-Francois Juneau
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--- Comment #81 from Jean-Francois Juneau  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #80)
> We all know there is a problem here. Complaining won't fix it, though.  As
> you can see, all it does is start an argument. What you can't see is that it
> makes people *less* likely to work on it, because developers are sensitive
> people. So while it may make you feel better right now to publicly vent,
> it's counterproductive because you're actually having the effect of making
> it less likely that the feature you want will get implemented.
> 
> Words have power. Make sure you're using yours to accomplish your goals
> rather than hamper them.

I agree with you, complaining won't fix it. And I understand the huge technical
challenge that is required and that resources are limited. But you have to
admit that, as a user, it's kind of frustrating to see this longstanding bug on
the "WISHLIST" instead of being treated like a proper major bug. We don't ask
you to fix it in one month, we ask you that you at least prioritize this issue
properly.

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2018-12-20 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #80 from Nate Graham  ---
We all know there is a problem here. Complaining won't fix it, though.  As you
can see, all it does is start an argument. What you can't see is that it makes
people *less* likely to work on it, because developers are sensitive people. So
while it may make you feel better right now to publicly vent, it's
counterproductive because you're actually having the effect of making it less
likely that the feature you want will get implemented.

Words have power. Make sure you're using yours to accomplish your goals rather
than hamper them.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread jfjuneau
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--- Comment #79 from jfjuneau  ---
(In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #77)
> Please note that this ticket is not about a bug, but a missing feature to
> allow non-KIO applications to enjoy the KIO features.
> 
> This actually isn't about KDE software at all; KDE applications use KIO just
> fine. Any other developer that is familiar with both FUSE and KIO could code
> the bridge, and it is just unfair that you blame KDE developers for not
> writing one.

To the end user there is no such thing as "KDE applications using KIO". In
fact, they probably don't know what KIO is and they don't have to. Their
reality is that when they use Plasma as their desktop environment, most
applications can't properly access files on network shares. And when they are
on other DEs, it works. So yes, it's a bug and a major one.

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2018-12-20 Thread ariasuni
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--- Comment #78 from ariasuni  ---
> Comment about any code of conduct is unlikely to resolve anything and is 
> surely less informative to KDE developers than comments that actually 
> provides workaround and mention that they are disappointed to actually have 
> to resort to such workarounds. Because that should tell to whomever cares why 
> some long-time users could stop using KDE and, worse, stop recommending KDE 
> to other non-geek users.

Yeah because obviously referring to GNOME’s software as «dumbed-down» and KDE
software as «embarrassing» is surely very informative to KDE developers. I’m
just asking to stay to facts.

But thank you for the time I lost answering to you instead of working on code
or bug reports, I guess.

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2018-12-20 Thread Christoph Feck
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--- Comment #77 from Christoph Feck  ---
Please note that this ticket is not about a bug, but a missing feature to allow
non-KIO applications to enjoy the KIO features.

This actually isn't about KDE software at all; KDE applications use KIO just
fine. Any other developer that is familiar with both FUSE and KIO could code
the bridge, and it is just unfair that you blame KDE developers for not writing
one.

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2018-12-20 Thread Mathieu Roy
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2018-12-20 Thread Mathieu Roy
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--- Comment #76 from Mathieu Roy  ---
(In reply to ariasuni from comment #75)
> Besides, this doesn’t help to get this bug resolved and annoys people
> reading the comments. Would you like to help people spitting on your work?

Comment about any code of conduct is unlikely to resolve anything and is surely
less informative to KDE developers than comments that actually provides
workaround and mention that they are disappointed to actually have to resort to
such workarounds. Because that should tell to whomever cares why some long-time
users could stop using KDE and, worse, stop recommending KDE to other non-geek
users.

You cannot ask people to feel good because simple things like what is at hand
here, reported in 2004 as a sadly "often neglected feature of KDE", is still
not fixed in 2018, and works perfect on other desktop environments.

Reality-check: if you recommend KDE to someone, average Joe, and it turns out
he as to do so much just to play a video, he will describe this KDE you
recommended in way harsher terms than these recents comments here.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-12-20 Thread ariasuni
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--- Comment #75 from ariasuni  ---
Several people here should read and respect KDE Community Code of Conduct:
https://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/

Being frustrated with KDE, GNOME or someone else’s software is no reason to be
disrespectful or despising.

Besides, this doesn’t help to get this bug resolved and annoys people reading
the comments. Would you like to help people spitting on your work?

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2018-12-20 Thread Alexander Schlarb
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--- Comment #74 from Alexander Schlarb  ---
(Re last comment: I'd recommend using Mate's `caja`, or maybe Pantheons `nemo`,
unless you prefer GNOME's dumbed down version of their own software and special
design.)

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2018-12-19 Thread Jan Przybylak
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--- Comment #73 from Jan Przybylak  ---
(In reply to Kyle K from comment #71)
I agree, it’s very annoying. If you want to make it a little easier, you can
install gnome‘s file manager (Nautilus) and use that as a front-end for GVFS

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2018-12-19 Thread Christoph Feck
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--- Comment #72 from Christoph Feck  ---
No progress was made. Feel free to use gfvs in the meantime; there is no need
to demotivate contributors.

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2018-12-19 Thread Kyle K
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I'm writing because I was wondering whether there was any more progress made?


My typical daily burden coming from average KDE user/consumer:

- manually connect to smb://foo in Dolphin because of course Network->Network
nor Network->Samba shares doesn't work in 18.10 even with NT1 smb.conf. ok.
drag & drop file from Dolphin to e.g. media player, either nothing happens
(when trying mpv) or I get spammed with unwanted 'smb authentication' dialog
(in case of vlc). Excuse me, but I have just authenticated a minute ago in
dolphin, wth?
- decide to open audacious with meticulously curated playlists that I have
saved over the years, that on its own works fine in other gvfs aware DE's, KDE
on the other hand won't play any mp3 because it doesn't understand
file:///run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share* pathnames or the audacious player has
problem playing from smb:// path.
- alright I have to manually drop to terminal and run `gvfs-mount
smb://192.168.1.13/dōjin` and make audacious work again, finding this
workaround on its own took me hours.

- it is 2018, why do we still have to manually write out smb:// mount points in
/etc/fstab?
- Current implementation of handling network shares is very subpar and
borderline embarrassing compared to other DE's. It makes KDE totally unusable..

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2018-12-07 Thread Nate Graham
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2018-08-21 Thread Nate Graham
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2018-07-28 Thread Nate Graham
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That's fantastic news!

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2018-07-28 Thread Bo Simonsen
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--- Comment #63 from Bo Simonsen  ---
I have been porting kiofuse to KF5 
https://github.com/bosim/kiofuse

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Just out of curiosity wouldn't it be quite "easy" to apply the same approach
kdeconnect does, my creating wrappers on sshfs, and variants of ftp and samba,
so accessing e.g. fusessh:// would invoke sshfs and thereby get a mount, other
equivalents fuseftp://, fusesmb://, etc. Thereby the existing functionality
would not be broken.

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2018-06-13 Thread King Kang Kong
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2018-04-10 Thread Rafael
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--- Comment #55 from Rafael  ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #54)
> >I don't think the GNOME folks have a lot of hanging issues with their FUSE 
> >implementation.
> 
> Given GnomeVFS (fuse mounts) was replaced by GVFS (something similar to KIO)
> for all gnome applications I think they do.

When I use a Gnome file manager (like Caja file manager) and open a remote file
from it with a Gnome app (GIMP, Inkscape, ATOM editor) it does it as is
expected by user: The file opened is not copied locally and you can save
directly being sure it's saved in the original file. So this is the way it
should work with KIO, IMHO.

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2018-04-10 Thread David Edmundson
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--- Comment #54 from David Edmundson  ---
>I don't think the GNOME folks have a lot of hanging issues with their FUSE 
>implementation.

Given GnomeVFS (fuse mounts) was replaced by GVFS (something similar to KIO)
for all gnome applications I think they do.

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2018-04-10 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #53 from Nate Graham  ---
I don't think the GNOME folks have a lot of hanging issues with their FUSE
implementation. macOS likewise has largely managed to avoid the issue too
(don't know about Windows).

Whatever underlying technology we use to resolve the overarching issue is fine
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2018-04-10 Thread David Faure
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--- Comment #52 from David Faure  ---
And as a solution for the fact that mounts can hang, you want us to use *MORE*
mounts? This doesn't make sense to me.

Bug 272361 is a very good proof of the problems that I expect to see more often
if KIO starts mounting remote filesystems automatically.

I agree that there is a need (for editing remote files with non-KIO-based
applications), it's not just well covered by the whole idea of mounting remote
filesystems...

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2018-04-09 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #51 from Nate Graham  ---
Ah, thanks for the clarification, Christoph.

Still, based on the number of duplicates, I think we can see that this is a
legitimate problem, because people are only using static and automounted mounts
in the first place because of a lack of support for a better alternative in
KIO.

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2018-04-09 Thread Christoph Feck
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--- Comment #50 from Christoph Feck  ---
This is not true. Applications don't hang if they are using KIO. Just tried
clicking on sftp:// in places panel slave to a machine that is turned off.
Dolphin shows a progress bar, then an error message, but never hangs.

Applications only hang if they access shares via mounts, not via KIO.

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It's worth mentioning that if we're worried about implementing this for fear of
having our apps hang when transient network locations become unavailable, we
*already* have this exact problem with the current model. See Bug 272361 and
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2018-04-05 Thread Simon Andric
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2018-02-26 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #48 from Nate Graham  ---
(In reply to Solerman Kaplon from comment #47)
> Can't GVFS (refactored to) be used as a library and share so all
> environments benefit?

Not easily; it's GNOME technology that's specific to their stack.

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-11 Thread Damian Ivanov
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-10 Thread Seblu
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-10 Thread Rajiv Parfenov
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-09 Thread Solerman Kaplon
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--- Comment #47 from Solerman Kaplon  ---
Can't GVFS (refactored to) be used as a library and share so all environments
benefit?

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-04 Thread Marcel Partap
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--- Comment #46 from Marcel Partap  ---
May I suggest a look at the venerable autofs package. It also has nifty
(negative) timeout tunables..

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-02 Thread Ryan Thompson
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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

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[kiofuse] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2018-02-01 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #45 from Nate Graham  ---
Thanks David! That sounds reasonable. Users from basically all other platforms
have a pre-existing expectation that remote locations need to first be
navigated to and mounted before use, so I don't think that will cause undue
confusion.

So we could have Dolphin perform the local mounting, and then after that we
just need some logic in Dolphin and maybe KIO that can detect whether a caller
uses KIO or not, and determine whether to pass it a KIO URL or else the local
path to the file on the mount.

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