[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-10-25 Thread Jacques
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369068

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--- Comment #8 from Jacques  ---
+1 

Agreed i had tried i3. Cant live without kwin + tiling. If it would get better
upstream support imho would best solution. i3 is too ridged.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-10-04 Thread via KDE Bugzilla
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369068

--- Comment #7 from [email protected] ---
(In reply to Martin Gräßlin from comment #3)
> We have been there. We used to have tiling, but removed it again as we
> couldn't maintain it and it created problems all over the place. And
> although we had support for it, it just couldn't compete with any real
> tiling window manager. Trying to emulate tiling in a stacking window manager
> is bound to fail.
> 
> Given that I recommend to use i3 or awesome if one wants to use a tiling
> window manager.

martin , please check https://github.com/faho/kwin-tiling/  , its quite stable
and works without crashes. It can easily compete i3 ( i came back from i3
because i can't stay without many features that missing in KDE) . Very very few
bug and Faho is active.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-10-04 Thread Constantine via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #6 from Constantine  ---
> sway is still young. I'm sure it will evolve. If there is a need for that it 
> will be added.

On behalf of KWin you don't want to participate in competition, the position is
clear. Thanks for replies.

> If something broke in our API, please report a bug about what broke.

There's at least one bugreport filled, unsolved since 2014 year
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340225 There may be more, I didn't yet
delve into it further as this bug is a showstopper enough.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-10-04 Thread Martin Gräßlin via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #5 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
(In reply to Constantine from comment #4)
> Martin, but now that Wayland is coming, things are different in the sense of
> competition. E.g. Sway doesn't support transparency or fading needed for
> comfortable tiling (in X11 it was done with separate compositor), and from
> their todo they have a bunch of more important things. It's a really nice
> chance for DE compositors to attract peoples.

sway is still young. I'm sure it will evolve. If there is a need for that it
will be added.

> 
> 9 votes at the moment of writing this comment definitely means there's an
> interest in it.

9 votes compared to several millions of users. Sorry, but the vote system is
not able to show anything.

> 
> >  Trying to emulate tiling in a stacking window manager is bound to fail.
> 
> What do you mean? There is an extension which worked just fine before KWin
> broke API. An extension for stacking manager. I don't really understand you.

KWin is a stacking window manager. We will never be able to support tiling like
a tiling window manager. A script is a good way to emulate it, but it can never
have the same feeling like a real tiling window manager. And we certainly will
not include this script. We created the scripting API to allow 3rd party
scripts. It was not created to include every possible script in KWin.

If something broke in our API, please report a bug about what broke.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-10-04 Thread Constantine via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Constantine  ---
Martin, but now that Wayland is coming, things are different in the sense of
competition. E.g. Sway doesn't support transparency or fading needed for
comfortable tiling (in X11 it was done with separate compositor), and from
their todo they have a bunch of more important things. It's a really nice
chance for DE compositors to attract peoples.

9 votes at the moment of writing this comment definitely means there's an
interest in it.

>  Trying to emulate tiling in a stacking window manager is bound to fail.

What do you mean? There is an extension which worked just fine before KWin
broke API. An extension for stacking manager. I don't really understand you.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-10-04 Thread Martin Gräßlin via KDE Bugzilla
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Martin Gräßlin  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #3 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
We have been there. We used to have tiling, but removed it again as we couldn't
maintain it and it created problems all over the place. And although we had
support for it, it just couldn't compete with any real tiling window manager.
Trying to emulate tiling in a stacking window manager is bound to fail.

Given that I recommend to use i3 or awesome if one wants to use a tiling window
manager.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-09-21 Thread Piotr Dobrogost via KDE Bugzilla
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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-09-20 Thread Fabian Homborg via KDE Bugzilla
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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-09-19 Thread via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from [email protected] ---
we really need this for any professional stuff. Software development , design.
anything you name it.

Faho's Kwintiling is quite neat but due to broken API it is very limited.
Please support it main stream.

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[kwin] [Bug 369068] Add tiling to KWin

2016-09-19 Thread steverweber via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #1 from steverweber  ---
+1

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