[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #27 from Nate Graham --- The original issue here has definitely been fixed; tooltips for not-running apps are now nice and small. Let's track any new issues with new bugs. Thanks everyone! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Alexander Mentyu changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #26 from Alexander Mentyu --- I tested previews for some apps - SMPlayer, VLC, Kate, KSysGuard, Dolphin, Discover, Chromium, Chrome, GIMP, Inkscape, PyCharm - and noticed that VirtualBox app currently has blurry icon in preview - all others apps are looking ok Plasma: 5.12.2 Apps: 17.12.2 Frameworks: 5.43.0 Qt: 5.10.1 Kernel: 4.14.20-2-MANJARO OS: Netrunner Rolling -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #25 from Nate Graham --- Is this still reproducible using recent Plasma versions? I don't see this behavior in 5.11. The tooltips seem to be fairly reasonably sized. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Fincer changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #24 from [email protected] --- * 1/3rd of its height -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #23 from [email protected] --- Created attachment 100312 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=100312&action=edit Windows 10 window preview See the preview window on the bottom? It shows what needs to be shown and doesn't take 1/3rd of my screen -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #22 from [email protected] --- Hey good afternoon. What are you still discussing about? Is it so hard to make the window preview smaller? I'll add an attachment with a screenshot of how windows 10 manages windows' previews. Simple and useful. I don't get it why you make your lives so hard ^_^ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #21 from Janek Bevendorff --- I agree that showing a big icon is not really helpful, especially not because there is already an icon right next to the title. A fine fix for me would also be to just make the tooltip smaller and only show the title (+ the smaller icon on the right-hand side). But having a big blurry icon whose native resolution is way too low is just a no-go. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #20 from [email protected] --- How about preview of application window? If preview is not available then window icon sounds like sane fallback until preview can be displayed. Since this is what windows does i think it is a safe bet. New users some would get what they expect too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #19 from Thomas Pfeiffer --- The WindowMetaData framework which is currently being developed changes the whole situation for thumbnails, anyway, doesn't it? The question really is: What do we show for applications which provide nothing? What benefit does a huge icon bring to users? When we have nothing relevant to show either via WindowMetaData or via MPRIS, I'd just show a button to close the window and that's it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #18 from Martin Gräßlin --- I think option 1 sounds like the best solution. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #17 from [email protected] --- > No. Applications have no influence on the size of the Task Manager tooltips. Really? Because every application has tooltip of different length here (which is plasma 5.7), and pausing/resuming spotify via tooltip also changes length thus moving buttons from under the mouse. Height seems consistent though. By the way my taskbar is on the left edge of screen if it has any importance. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Eike Hein changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected], ||[email protected] --- Comment #16 from Eike Hein --- Kai, Martin, VDG: Which way do we want to go with this? Things I can think of: 1) Evaluate on the QML side if the thumbnail is actually available (based on some sort of WindowThumbnail prop that may or may not exist yet) and substitute WindowThumbnail for an IconItem using TasksModel's deco prop in that case 2) add a fallBackIcon prop to WindowThumbnail and set TasksModel's deco prop on it, make WindowThumbnail paint that instead of the window icon (probably dumb since it bypasses a lot of IconItem smartness) 3) Figure out if WindowThumbnail could somehow try harder to get a higher-res window icon. Probably fruitless. On the other hand showing the task button icon twice in the tooltip seems pointless too. 4) Fix the tooltip animation effect to avoid the Flappy Bird-like movement and hide the entire preview when the thumb is not available -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Eike Hein changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #15 from Eike Hein --- > I attached a new screenshot showing Gimp and Chrome and a very big panel. > Both apps have icons with correct resolution on the panel, but both show > blurry icons in their tooltips. Confirmed. Looks like tooltips don't use the task button icon when there is no thumbnail, but fall back to the (low-res) window icon pixmap instead. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #14 from Eike Hein --- > I think this boils down to kde not enforcing tooltip size and every > application having free reign on resizing that tooltip by providing images of > different size. No. Applications have no influence on the size of the Task Manager tooltips. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #13 from Eike Hein --- > But still, even if it's just Chrome: it's such a widely-used application that > there should be a fix/workaround even if it's not really KDE's fault. We ship hacks for Chrome in taskmanagerrulesrc for that reason, but they invent new ways to break it from time to time. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #12 from [email protected] --- I think this boils down to kde not enforcing tooltip size and every application having free reign on resizing that tooltip by providing images of different size. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #11 from Janek Bevendorff --- Created attachment 100112 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=100112&action=edit Blurry Icons 2 I attached a new screenshot showing Gimp and Chrome and a very big panel. Both apps have icons with correct resolution on the panel, but both show blurry icons in their tooltips. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #10 from Janek Bevendorff --- I'm using 5.7.1 and I tested it with Chrome and Gimp (as written above). However, Gimp also uses a different icon for the taskbar entry (provided by the Breeze icon theme, I guess) than in the tooltip (standard Gimp icon). Thunderbird seems to show the tooltip icon at a correct size. But still, even if it's just Chrome: it's such a widely-used application that there should be a fix/workaround even if it's not really KDE's fault. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #9 from Eike Hein --- Please make sure that: 1) You use Plasma 5.7 for thest tests due to the fully-rewritten backend 2) You use a less broken app than Chrome for testing - in cases where we can't map the window to a system-registered app we fall back to the window icon which may not be high-res, and Chrome is notoriously bad at providing correct metadata -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Janek Bevendorff changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jbev_kdebugs_01@refining-li ||nux.org --- Comment #8 from Janek Bevendorff --- Created attachment 100111 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=100111&action=edit Blurry app icon Since you said that you're reworking tooltips anyway (I would love that), I don't create a new issue for that and just add it as a remark here: it would be nice if you could also make them prettier. There are two major issues with the current look and feel: a) no animations which makes tooltips feel like compositing is turned off b) blurry (i.e. scaled-up) application icons when windows are minimized (see attached screenshot) Further explanation of b): icons with higher resolution definitely exist as I can see when I make the panel bigger. The tooltip still uses a scaled-down version, though. This does not happen for all applications, though. KDE apps (maybe Qt apps in general? Not sure) seem to show icons at correct sizes when windows are minimized. But icons of GTK apps (such as Chrome or Gimp) are usually scaled up and look blurry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #7 from [email protected] --- Ok sorry for double-comment, this attachment system is very confusing. I added image that shows how pausing/resuming media gives different tooltip sizes for some reason. I think this is somewhat related. Plasma should cap tooltip size isntead of allowing it to be as big or as small as it desires. Now actually tooltip of every application in taskbar has different size. It is just confusing and bad looking. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 [email protected] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #6 from [email protected] --- Created attachment 99604 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=99604&action=edit Tooltip size -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #5 from Eike Hein --- That sounds nice Thomas, as the Task Manager maintainer I'm not very happy with the tooltips currently. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Thomas Pfeiffer changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #4 from Thomas Pfeiffer --- Not much use to work on that at this moment from my perspective, because we have big plans for those tooltips: Instead of making them smaller, we want to make them actually useful. When we have some designs for that, we'll look what size they need to be useful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 Eike Hein changed: What|Removed |Added Flags||VisualDesign+ --- Comment #3 from Eike Hein --- Something for the VDG. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #2 from [email protected] --- Created attachment 99423 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=99423&action=edit ... ... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 364147] Too big window preview when hovering mouse on task manager
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364147 --- Comment #1 from [email protected] --- See the url for the screenshot -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
