[plasmashell] [Bug 470043] Make previews never time out on their own, like other tooltips

2023-05-24 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470043

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Version Fixed In|5.27.6  |6.0

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[plasmashell] [Bug 470043] Make previews never time out on their own, like other tooltips

2023-05-24 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470043

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |FIXED
   Version Fixed In||5.27.6
 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
  Latest Commit||https://invent.kde.org/plas
   ||ma/plasma-desktop/-/commit/
   ||728cf19e307b895fd53efebcb44
   ||22a7747d0e08d

--- Comment #5 from Nate Graham  ---
Git commit 728cf19e307b895fd53efebcb4422a7747d0e08d by Nate Graham.
Committed on 25/05/2023 at 03:42.
Pushed by ngraham into branch 'master'.

applets/taskmanager: don't time out preview tooltips

In general we don't time out any tooltips now as long as the cursor
remains hovered over the thing that opened the tooltip. One exception is
Task Manager window thumbnail tooltips. This may simply have been missed
during the change to no longer time out any tooltips (it has a local
override for the new default behavior) or it might have been
intentional at the time. But either way, it's probably better to follow
the default settings here for reasons of consistency, not to mention to
make it easier to interact with the preview thumbnails, especially when
there are multiple windows open.
FIXED-IN: 5.27.6

M  +0-4applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/Task.qml

https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/commit/728cf19e307b895fd53efebcb4422a7747d0e08d

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[plasmashell] [Bug 470043] Make previews never time out on their own, like other tooltips

2023-05-23 Thread Bug Janitor Service
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470043

Bug Janitor Service  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REPORTED|ASSIGNED
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
A possibly relevant merge request was started @
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1528

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[plasmashell] [Bug 470043] Make previews never time out on their own, like other tooltips

2023-05-23 Thread John Veness
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470043

--- Comment #3 from John Veness  ---
I did wonder if it was intentional to make them disappear. Maybe that decision
can be reviewed by UX people.

My use case is that I sometimes like to monitor what's happening in another
window (e.g. a compile, or a chat) without needing to bring up the full size
window, or resize windows or split my desktop. The five second timeout is too
short for that. I'm sure there are other ways to achieve my use case, but
hovering over the task manager entry is quick, easy, and intuitive.

For what it's worth, the window preview "tooltips" don't timeout in MS Windows.
Not that we should always copy everything Microsoft does, but there is the
argument of "matching user expectations". Also, I assume Microsoft spend
millions on user testing research so (although again that doesn't mean they get
everything right) it's nice to piggy-back on that!

As mentioned, other tooltip-like things don't timeout, including some equally
large/intrusive ones such as the Virtual Desktop Pager, so it's not consistent.
I don't think it's particularly onerous to make the user move the mouse to a
non-tooltippy area if they find the preview intrusive.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 470043] Make previews never time out on their own, like other tooltips

2023-05-22 Thread Oliver Beard
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470043

Oliver Beard  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #2 from Oliver Beard  ---
I completely agree - the window previews are tooltips, with a blend animation
on them, the same as with any panel tooltips.

I myself have found this annoying, as when you have many windows open, it could
take a while to identify which preview you want to move the cursor to, before
finding that the previews have suddenly disappeared. I don't think most people
expect them to.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 470043] Make previews never time out on their own, like other tooltips

2023-05-22 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470043

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Thumbnails disappear after  |Make previews never time
   |five seconds|out on their own, like
   ||other tooltips
   Severity|normal  |wishlist
 CC||n...@kde.org

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
So in the past I might have said something along the lines of "this is
intentional; they're tooltips and all tooltips time out after 5 seconds." But
today tooltip don't disappear until the cursor is moved elsewhere, so on that
basis, these should do the same.

But on the other hand, even though *technically* they're tooltips, they kind of
don't always behave like tooltips. Unlike tooltips, they're large and
interactive. We don't call them "tooltips" in the UI anymore. And their size
can make them quite intrusive. We already make them never disappear when the
cursor is over them, but if we made them never disappear when the cursor was
simply over the thing that made them appear, it might be too annoying.

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