[plasmashell] [Bug 501340] Setting the screen brightness to "0" using brightness keys still keeps on the display brightness at the minimal brightness (kinda low light)

2025-04-11 Thread Bug Janitor Service
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501340

Bug Janitor Service  changed:

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 Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO  |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEEDSINFO   |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
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[plasmashell] [Bug 501340] Setting the screen brightness to "0" using brightness keys still keeps on the display brightness at the minimal brightness (kinda low light)

2025-03-27 Thread Bug Janitor Service
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501340

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[plasmashell] [Bug 501340] Setting the screen brightness to "0" using brightness keys still keeps on the display brightness at the minimal brightness (kinda low light)

2025-03-13 Thread Aravind
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501340

--- Comment #3 from Aravind  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> At some point in the past we made this change intentionally, and I don't
> remember if we reverted it due to complaints. So depending on whether we
> did, this is either intentional, or a bug. :) 
> 
> In the meantime, can you help explain why you want the backlight to go all
> the way off this way? Why not just turn the screen via keyboard shortcut?



Well Keyboard shortcut is a workaround but thats not working as what I
expected.. For eg. If I accidentally clicked any keyboard key ..the screen
brightness increases/returned back to the previous brightness stage before
where i triggered the shortkey to turn it off. I mostly use text to speech on
my docs for my research stuffs to save up some time while I'm working on other
things especially on my way to hometown during weekends thats a 6 hour travel
and turning the screen off save me up some battery backup on my laptop (not
that great but yeah atleast better than turning it completely on wholetime
during travel)

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[plasmashell] [Bug 501340] Setting the screen brightness to "0" using brightness keys still keeps on the display brightness at the minimal brightness (kinda low light)

2025-03-11 Thread Jakob Petsovits
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501340

--- Comment #2 from Jakob Petsovits  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> At some point in the past we made this change intentionally, and I don't
> remember if we reverted it due to complaints. So depending on whether we
> did, this is either intentional, or a bug. :) 

This is intentional, we did not revert it. People were complaining about not
being able to reduce their monitors to 0 brightness despite this not turning
them off; we resolved this by requiring minimum 1 brightness only for built-in
screens. IIRC in a discussion with Xaver Hugl he suggested that allowing
minimum 0 could be added back as a "quirk" checkbox option in System Settings
-> Display Configuration.

All of the prior discussions were centered around allowing users to pick their
minimum brightness value that's still visible. At no point, however, was there
talk about specifically turning the display off deliberately using brightness
keys.

> In the meantime, can you help explain why you want the backlight to go all
> the way off this way? Why not just turn the screen via keyboard shortcut?

Not the OP, but looking at my Fn-row keys, none of them is a clear "turn off
screen" button. The brightness keys on the other hand are immediately clear to
everyone.

My question in terms of UX would be: if a screen is turned off, should it even
be part of the screen geometry? i.e. does it make sense to allow interactions
and pointer movement on a screen that we know is fully invisible? If I disable
a screen in Display Configuration, Plasma will move my panel and open windows
to the next available screen instead. But if we do this in response to
brightness keys, I think it would feel more jarring and unexpected. On the
other hand, if we don't do it, we leave an area of the desktop literally
unusable and that seems like bad design.

The "Turn off screen" action in System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts is
temporary and applies to all screens. Whenever user input is detected, the
screen comes back again (at its previous brightness, as noted in Comment #0).
This is different from the behavior we had in Plasma 5.x and prevents making
the desktop unusable. Probably the best way to satisfy this request, but won't
work well with brightness keys applying to multiple screens at the same time.
At the very least we'll want this MR to land first:
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/powerdevil/-/merge_requests/527

So I think we have two ways that this user's request could be solved:

One by introducing the quirk option in Display Configuration catering to users
for whom brightness 0 does not mean turned off. And Aravind could use it to
make it work on this particular laptop that interprets brightness 0 as fully
off.

The other one by merging the aforementioned MR so that the brightness key only
affects the active display. Then if the brightness is already at 0% for that
display, make the next brightness key press turn it off temporarily until the
next user input (a.k.a. "DPMS" action in powerdevil). Possibly require an extra
key press after displaying "Press again to turn off screen" in the OSD.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 501340] Setting the screen brightness to "0" using brightness keys still keeps on the display brightness at the minimal brightness (kinda low light)

2025-03-11 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501340

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||[email protected],
   ||[email protected]
   Severity|major   |minor
   Target Milestone|--- |1.0
   Assignee|[email protected]   |[email protected]
Product|KScreen |plasmashell
 Status|REPORTED|NEEDSINFO
 Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO
  Component|common  |Power management &
   ||brightness

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
At some point in the past we made this change intentionally, and I don't
remember if we reverted it due to complaints. So depending on whether we did,
this is either intentional, or a bug. :) 

In the meantime, can you help explain why you want the backlight to go all the
way off this way? Why not just turn the screen via keyboard shortcut?

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