Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday 30 December 2009 00:43:31 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 29-12-2009 18:30, Sebastian Kügler wrote: I get your point (bloat), but being vague and sarcastic is not the way to go about it. The best is to provide numbers to back it up and show the real costs of running two

Re: [Kde-pim] [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
Mike, thank you for adding kde-pim to the receipients. Doesn't really make much sense to discuss things without informing some of the stakeholders. On Tuesday, 2009-12-29, Mike Arthur wrote: On 29 Dec 2009, at 18:13, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: One little problem remains - in case no one noticed

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-30 Thread Dror Levin
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 14:31, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: I'm starting to get really amazed how people are willing to condemn the use of databases without even coming up with a single performance measurement backing up the claims of bloat. And then people go wild based on wrong

Re: [Kde-pim] [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2009-12-30, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 29-12-2009 23:09, Mike Arthur wrote: On 29 Dec 2009, at 23:43, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: As Maciej hinted, you're opening the door for another group of KDE devs later call for precedent to add hard deps on sqlite,

Re: [Kde-pim] [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-30 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 30 December 2009, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 30-12-2009 11:45, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Wednesday, 2009-12-30, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 29-12-2009 23:09, Mike Arthur wrote: On 29 Dec 2009, at 23:43, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: As Maciej hinted,

Re: [Kde-pim] [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-30 Thread Volker Krause
On Wednesday 30 December 2009 17:53:14 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 30-12-2009 11:45, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Wednesday, 2009-12-30, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 29-12-2009 23:09, Mike Arthur wrote: On 29 Dec 2009, at 23:43, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: As Maciej

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34:23 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: While keeping if (NEPOMUK_FOUND) and alike CMake code is considerable maintenance cost - this cost has already been born so there's nothing else to do for 4.4 (and dropping this code to simplify CMake files relying on the fact

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 29 of December 2009 13:50:12 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34:23 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: While keeping if (NEPOMUK_FOUND) and alike CMake code is considerable maintenance cost - this cost has already been born so there's nothing else to do for 4.4

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Mike Arthur
On 29 Dec 2009, at 18:13, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: One little problem remains - in case no one noticed - *KDE* *SC* is now (as of 4.4) *officially* *the* *first* *Desktop* *Environment* *in* *the* *history* *that* *requires* *two* *full*-*blown* *relational* *database* *servers*

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hey, On Tuesday 29 December 2009 19:13:08 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 29 of December 2009 13:50:12 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34:23 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: While keeping if (NEPOMUK_FOUND) and alike CMake code is considerable maintenance cost - this

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29-12-2009 18:30, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Hey, On Tuesday 29 December 2009 19:13:08 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 29 of December 2009 13:50:12 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 14:34:23 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: While

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Mike Arthur
On 29 Dec 2009, at 23:43, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: If common sense won't cut it, do I need to start a vote, forum thread or something else asking KDE users (I can do it for Gentoo alone) if they are worried/upset about this? Should I ask how many former KDE users stopped using it

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29-12-2009 23:09, Mike Arthur wrote: On 29 Dec 2009, at 23:43, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: If common sense won't cut it, do I need to start a vote, forum thread or something else asking KDE users (I can do it for Gentoo alone) if they

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-28 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Sunday 27 of December 2009 19:06:18 Allen Winter wrote: From a kdepim point-of-view, Nepomuk must be a hard dependency as Kontact will have big problems without it. So either Nepomuk is a hard dependency for kdelibs or for kdepim. Might as well keep it a hard dependency for kdelibs.

Re: Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-28 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 27 December 2009 13:06:18 Allen Winter wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 8:34:23 am Maciej Mrozowski wrote: Actually one of those people screaming would be me :) From my perspective it's much more convenient to have Nepomuk libs (and

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-28 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 27.12.09 13:06:18, Allen Winter wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 8:34:23 am Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 22 of December 2009 21:32:29 Alexander Neundorf wrote: Now, in kdelibs there's a little inconsistency with Nepomuk related CMake options logic: - Soprano is always

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-27 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 22 of December 2009 21:32:29 Alexander Neundorf wrote: Now, in kdelibs there's a little inconsistency with Nepomuk related CMake options logic: - Soprano is always required - SDO is optional - Nepomuk libs are built when both Soprano (with all needed backends and parsers)

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-27 Thread Allen Winter
On Sunday 27 December 2009 8:34:23 am Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 22 of December 2009 21:32:29 Alexander Neundorf wrote: Now, in kdelibs there's a little inconsistency with Nepomuk related CMake options logic: - Soprano is always required - SDO is optional - Nepomuk libs

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-22 Thread Sebastian Trueg
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: Proposals (patch): - find_library(Soprano) - macro_optional_find_library(Soprano) keeping Soprano backend checks (so only Soprano with all needed backends is accepted) fine by me. - other minor changes in FindNepomuk.cmake: * set url in macro_log_feature of Soprano

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
Hi, On Tuesday 22 December 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: Hi Looking at current state of requirements regarding Nepomuk libs in KDE SC (trunk), apart from kdebase/runtime/nepomuk obviously, only kdepim/akonadiconsole seems to have hard dependency on Nepomuk libraries. Dependency which cannot

Re: [PATCH] Making Soprano optional (again) in kdelibs

2009-12-21 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
- find_library(Soprano) - macro_optional_find_library(Soprano) errata: s/find_libary/find_package/g - you get the drill ___ Kde-buildsystem mailing list Kde-buildsystem@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-buildsystem