Re: [kde-community] Re: kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Jonathan Riddell
The image is a large 8 so the whole thing needs changed. The background behind the 8 image would be best to update but I don't suppose anyone is too fussed. The 'Plasma 5.8 LTS' text is just text which is changed in a json file. Jonathan On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:59:52AM -0700, Andy Betts

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 28 February 2018 at 16:04, Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > On 28.02.2018 16:21, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > >> My story is, more rules, more scared users ignore the BKO. A single thing >> worth having is not too many rules but editing feature for *wrong* or >>

Re: kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Andy Betts
Like I said. Are we ok if we just change the version number and keep the same background? Thank you, Andy On 2/28/2018 10:51:39 AM, Ben Cooksley wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:17 AM, Andy Betts wrote: > I was approached to work on a banner for the page, but I haven't had

Re: kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:17 AM, Andy Betts wrote: > I was approached to work on a banner for the page, but I haven't had the > time to make anything. I think that maybe an easy change is to simply change > the text to show the right version but maybe not change the

Re: kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Andy Betts
I was approached to work on a banner for the page, but I haven't had the time to make anything. I think that maybe an easy change is to simply change the text to show the right version but maybe not change the wallpaper behind it. Bushan seemed to have access. Thank you, Andy On 2/28/2018

Re: kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Ivan Čukić
I can do it for Plasma if nobody from VDG is available. Ch -- KDE, ivan.cu...@kde.org, http://cukic.co/ gpg key fingerprint: 292F 9B5C 5A1B 2A2F 9CF3 45DF C9C5 77AF 0A37 240A

Re: kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Jonathan Riddell
It needs an artist to make a new 5.12 banner. Same for the slimbook. Jonathan On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 05:09:48PM +0100, Ivan Čukić wrote: > Hi all, > > Can someone (who has the permissions to do so) update www.kde.org - > the scrolling banner thingie shows Plasma 5.8 LTS instead of 5.12 LTS.

kde.org and Plasma LTS

2018-02-28 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, Can someone (who has the permissions to do so) update www.kde.org - the scrolling banner thingie shows Plasma 5.8 LTS instead of 5.12 LTS. Cheers, Ivan -- KDE, ivan.cu...@kde.org, http://cukic.co/ gpg key fingerprint: 292F 9B5C 5A1B 2A2F 9CF3 45DF C9C5 77AF 0A37 240A

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
On 28.02.2018 16:21, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: My story is, more rules, more scared users ignore the BKO. A single thing worth having is not too many rules but editing feature for *wrong* or outdated bug comments that make understanding the report so hard. Many years have passed since the first

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
From experience, priority & severity are nice-to-haves most of the time. In LibreOffice, they are the most useful in the case of crashes or hangs, where we use high/highest & major/critical. Ilmari On 28.02.2018 16:25, Scott Harvey wrote: As the former manager of an IT help desk (back in the

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Scott Harvey
As the former manager of an IT help desk (back in the olden days), my input on some of this. I'm only a junior developer who's offered up a few minor patches thus far and have done a bit of bug triaging. We need to back up and remember the definition of the word triage: (in medical use) the

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 28 February 2018 at 12:35, Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > I am personally convinced that users do not know bug triaging is a thing > and certainly not how much they could help developers by doing it. It would > be very useful to test this by running a poll on

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
I would argue this is not the most important thing, at least not before recruiting a proper QA team for your application. It does help with noticing duplicate reports, but it is quite work-intensive. In LibreOffice we currently have 657 meta reports to categorise everything. Yet, we also have

Re: Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Gilles Caulier
Hi, Instead to start to talk with users about bugzilla, I recommend to separate well the project with bugzilla sub-components. In digiKam, i pass a lots of time to create sub-sections. This is the most important task to do before triaging. Remember that users are not developers. Some sections

Proposal for a poll to users about bug triaging

2018-02-28 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
I am personally convinced that users do not know bug triaging is a thing and certainly not how much they could help developers by doing it. It would be very useful to test this by running a poll on https://blogs.kde.org/ or somewhere. Questions could be something along the lines of "Did you

Re: Let's get rid of UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED

2018-02-28 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 08:58:51 CET Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > What you need to focus on right now is not bikeshedding about statuses > etc., but to recruit more and more QA/triagers. The QA team is Martin's > "second level support". This is the primary solution. Yeah, I guess this is

Re: Let's get rid of UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED

2018-02-28 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
On 28.02.2018 12:01, Luigi Toscano wrote: On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 10:32:58 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:14:30 CET Luigi Toscano wrote: On bugzilla.redhat.com some teams use the Triaged keyword. I think it would be a good solution. I've been trying that,

Re: Let's get rid of UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED

2018-02-28 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 11:01:22 CET Luigi Toscano wrote: > I disagree and I think it makes sense as keyword, as general attribute of > the bug (something happened according a triaging process). It is a modifier > of the "NEW"/initial state that is brought around later. Yours is, of

Re: Let's get rid of UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED

2018-02-28 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 10:32:58 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:14:30 CET Luigi Toscano wrote: > > On bugzilla.redhat.com some teams use the Triaged keyword. I think it > > would > > be a good solution. > > I've been trying that, and it just doesn't work for

Re: Let's get rid of UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED

2018-02-28 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:14:30 CET Luigi Toscano wrote: > On bugzilla.redhat.com some teams use the Triaged keyword. I think it would > be a good solution. I've been trying that, and it just doesn't work for me, like I said in my first mail to this thread. It doesn't work because it's