Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-17 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Monday, January 16, 2017 01:13:03 AM Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > Where do we stop? We have to draw the line somewhere, but I don't know > where. Perhaps making it case-by-case could be problematic, someone > could claim it's unfair to give X to Kubuntu and not give Y to them > because in their

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-17 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:41:59 GMT, Ken Vermette wrote: I think he might be right, only the trademark is still Canonical. Development is supported primarily by... ... Blue Systems? Rush? The community? The Tragically Hip? Valorie? Nickelback? ... Either way, I personally look at the

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Clemens Toennies
Blue Systems is not really involved after the shift to Neon.

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Ken Vermette
I think he might be right, only the trademark is still Canonical. Development is supported primarily by... ... Blue Systems? Rush? The community? The Tragically Hip? Valorie? Nickelback? ... Either way, I personally look at the lineage and say that's good enough for me, at least for the first

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Alexander Potashev
2017-01-16 20:51 GMT+03:00 Ken Vermette : > KDE applications. In this case Canonical could use KDE infra for Kubuntu > In this case, Canonical is a patron, so Kubuntu, under Canonical, would fall > under this this umbrella. Kubuntu is not under Canonical since 2012. --

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Ken Vermette
For my $0.02, any distribution or parent sponsoring KDE development by becoming a member (€1000/yr for companies, €100/yr for individuals) could see that commitment met with infrastructure on our end as an optional perk. This helps justify their financial contributions, and it gives us more

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-15 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2017-01-08 5:02 GMT-03:00 Valorie Zimmerman : > I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear > from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. > > I'm part of the Kubuntu community and will use it as the example I know best. > > Kubuntu

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-15 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On 2017 M01 14, Sat 16:53:19 CET Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all > > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give > > Kubuntu and Fedora a place

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give > Kubuntu and Fedora a place on phab to manage their todos. Costs us > nothing, helps our

Extent of KDE helping downstreams (was Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure)

2017-01-14 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:20:15 +0100 Adriaan de Groot ha scritto: [renamed the discussion so that it drifts away from Valorie's request onto something else, and doesn't distract from her question] > I'm having a terrible time understanding the nature of the line in > the

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-14 Thread Luigi Toscano
Adriaan de Groot ha scritto: > I don't think votes are the way to go, really. I'd much rather just get on > with it. For the FreeBSD project on KDE's phab, I didn't even think about it: > I'm a KDE person, I'm interested in delivering KDE software to a particular > group, and I do lots of

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-13 Thread Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN
Should we gather +s and -s and count them as a vote? Can we give the sysadmins the ok? *Ovidiu - Florin BOGDAN* GeekAliens.com Kubuntu România 2017-01-13 9:40 GMT+02:00 Luca Beltrame

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:09:16 +0100 Albert Astals Cid ha scritto: > This takes 1 minute to create and adds 0.0003% of work to our > servers, let's just add it and stop a conversation that is making us > spend lots of human- hours discussing it. I thought there were no

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dijous, 12 de gener de 2017, a les 22:46:27 CET, Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN va escriure: > We would like a Project in the current Phabricator instance, which comes > with a wiki, TODO board and all the magic. This takes 1 minute to create and adds 0.0003% of work to our servers, let's just add it

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:27:21 +0100 Adriaan de Groot ha scritto: > Luca, what exactly are you "Nay"-ing? The former or the latter? If > the latter, do you also object to > https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/199/ ? The latter. For KDE-FreeBSD, I'd argue it's

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:39:33 AM Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:58:32 -0800 > Valorie Zimmerman > > ha scritto: > > Bottom line: we would like a Phab instance so that we can use the task > > board, and perhaps the built-in wiki. The

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On donderdag 12 januari 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:58 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > wrote: > > > > Bottom line: we would like a Phab instance so that we can use the task > > board, and perhaps the built-in wiki. The sysadmins want

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:49:44 +0100 Helio Chissini de Castro ha scritto: > a distribuition that has a default Gnome desktop, and all efforts on > main distribution and the only official build is Gnome based. The problem is inherently political, I see. And I guess the

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:42:37 AM CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:10:55 + > Helio Chissini de Castro > > ha scritto: > > I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply > > the > > Interesting. Were there any

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:10:55 + > Helio Chissini de Castro > ha scritto: > >> I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply >> the > > Interesting. Were there any

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:10:55 + Helio Chissini de Castro ha scritto: > I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply > the Interesting. Were there any motivations for this? (Notice that my objections are also valid for any distro, so I

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > As the first responses to my questions show, some DO draw those Venn > diagrams. To me, if there is one, it is mostly overlap. What I do for > Kubuntu is for KDE, and what I do for KDE helps Kubuntu. > > Bottom line: we would like a Phab instance

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
Thanks for putting this up Valerie. I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply the matter was put aside, and I simply decided stop trying as I barely had will to fight for this when clearly nobody want to give support on our infra. Let's see if Kubuntu has a different

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-11 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Sunday, January 08, 2017 12:02:06 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >> However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this, >> since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben >> Cooksley said,

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-11 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Sunday, January 08, 2017 12:02:06 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this, > since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben > Cooksley said, "we'll need to come up with some guidelines surrounding > what distributions

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-09 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Sunday, 8 January 2017 16:28:45 GMT, Albert Astals Cid wrote: For me, the line is "you should use your project infrastructure". Since we're nice people, i would expand the line to "if your project infrastructure is not good you can use ours for KDE related stuff if that gives us no

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:28 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El diumenge, 8 de gener de 2017, a les 0:02:06 CET, Valorie Zimmerman va > escriure: >> I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear >> from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. >> >>

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El diumenge, 8 de gener de 2017, a les 0:02:06 CET, Valorie Zimmerman va escriure: > I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear > from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. > > I'm part of the Kubuntu community and will use it as the example I know > best.

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:02:06 -0800 Valorie Zimmerman ha scritto: > However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this, > since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben With both my KDE and distro person hats, -1 to the idea. I

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Shubhi Gautam
please unsubscribe me from this list. Not sure how i was subscribed On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear > from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. > > I'm