[kde-community] Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread John Layt
Hi, It's time we talked about Applications. With the Frameworks and Plasma Tech Previews out the door we have applications starting to port to the hot new stuff, and we need to start discussing now how all the decisions being made around Frameworks and Plasma (such as the new Plasma naming

Re: [kde-community] Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Luigi Toscano
John Layt wrote: One other thing I would do is change our app lifecycle slightly. I'd introduce a new status of Deprecated that lies between Released and Unmaintained, for apps like Kopete and KPPP that are no longer relevant for most people or are being replaced, but may still have limited

Re: [kde-community] Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread John Layt
On 15 January 2014 22:15, Luigi Toscano luigi.tosc...@tiscali.it wrote: John Layt wrote: One other thing I would do is change our app lifecycle slightly. I'd introduce a new status of Deprecated that lies between Released and Unmaintained, for apps like Kopete and KPPP that are no longer

[kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure: Hi, * Do we need small utilities like KCalc as stand-alone apps, or do they belong in Workspaces, perhaps as Plasmoids? Where do we draw the line between them? And if there's both a Plasmoid and an App for something,

[kde-community] High-quality apps in extragear - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure: Hi, * There are a lot of high-quality utils, apps and libraries in Extragear that better deserve to be in the main release, lets go through them and see what deserves to be promoted. Things like the NetworkManager

Re: [kde-community] Qt Community partner

2014-01-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 18 September 2013 15:43, Claudia Rauch ra...@kde.org wrote: On 18 September 2013 15:24, Jaroslaw Staniek stan...@kde.org wrote: Hi Claudia, Attached re-worked HTML that's relevant to Calligra. Some of that is a simple replacing KOffice-Calligra. I hope the quote from Boudewijn still

[kde-community] Applications hopping in and out of the coordinated release - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure: Hi, We can still have a regular KDE Applications Release, but it is then up to individual communities or applications to opt in to that release cycle, or to decide to release on their own cycle. Strong communities with

Re: [kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Wednesday 15 January 2014 23:13:11 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Besides how would you define this KDE Essential Applications group? I mean a tarball? An XML file somewhere? Personally I find distros should be smart enough to decide which apps they want to ship by default and which not. It's

Re: [kde-community] Tupi: Open 2D Magic

2014-01-15 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Monday 13 January 2014 11:06:12 Jure Repinc wrote: Dne Sobota, 11. januarja 2014 ob 22:37:18 je Gustav González napisal(a): I guess this is my last message related to this thread. I just want to say thank you for all your help. Now I guess I can say that officially Tupi is part of the

[kde-community] Retiring applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure: Hi, * A number of our apps and utilities really have had their day and need retiring, e.g. KsCD, Kppp, KFloppy. There's no point keeping low-quality or unmaintained apps around just to try ship a complete desktop

[kde-community] Killing Modules - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure: Hi, I think those are fairly uncontroversial, but I feel that's not quite enough, it's just cleaning up the existing modules. I'd like to see something more radical: I'd abolish the Software Collection, the Modules