Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

[Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer]

Thank you, this is done excellently!

Olaf


Am 18. Mai 2016 23:43:12 MESZ, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer 
:
>On Dienstag, 17. Mai 2016 22:06:30 CEST you wrote:
>> > Hi Alex,
>> > thank you for reminding me of the email I had been wanting to write
>today:
>> > To be honest, I don't think the reach of this mailing list is the
>problem.
>> > I've heard from quite a few people who have been following this
>> > discussion,
>> > but have not participated in it (for various reasons).
>> > Therefore, I changed plans. Instead of trying to get more people to
>> > participate in the discussion here, I will do what I'm trained to
>do: I'll
>> > conduct a survey.
>> > 
>> > I think we've already come quite far with the draft and I don't
>think we
>> > need much more open discussion. We have a quite good draft, but in
>several
>> > points, we have your personal opinion against my personal opinion,
>and now
>> > I think the next step whould be to find out what the majority
>(especially
>> > the "silent majority") thinks.
>> > 
>> > Tomorrow I will try to identify the points which are still
>contested (and
>> > I'm happy for you or others to contribute to that as well) and put
>them in
>> > a survey (along with those on which we agree, just to make sure the
>> > majority agrees with us as well) which I will spread via the Dot,
>this
>> > list, the ev- membership list and maybe kde-devel just to be sure.
>> > 
>> > This survey will also invite people to join the mailing list
>discussion,
>> > but will primarily aim to just get numbers on those issues where we
>don't
>> > know what the majority thinks.
>> > 
>> > While I'm confident that we have found a Vision which everybody
>agrees to,
>> > I feel that for some points of the Mission, we'll have to go with a
>> > majority vote, because there are competing standpoints which are
>both
>> > valid but cannot really be harmonized. On the other hand, I do not
>think
>> > the standpoints are so far apart that those who prefer the minority
>> > position would not be able to identify with the Mission as a whole
>> > anymore if we adopted the majority position.
>> > 
>> > So, unless there are strong arguments against this approach, this
>is what
>> > I
>> > will do.
>> 
>> Sounds good, I'm happy to help.
>
>I have created a survey draft at
>http://survey.kde.org/index.php/858172/lang-en
>
>Now please everybody click through it and give feedback on anything
>that you 
>think should be changed.
>
>Once it feels like we agree on the survey, I'll publish it on the Dot
>and on 
>the kde-community and kde-devel mailing lists, hoping to reach most KDE
>
>contributors and interested users.
>
>Thank you in advance for your feedback,
>Thomas
>
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Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

[Thomas Pfeiffer]

On Dienstag, 17. Mai 2016 22:06:30 CEST you wrote:
> > Hi Alex,
> > thank you for reminding me of the email I had been wanting to write today:
> > To be honest, I don't think the reach of this mailing list is the problem.
> > I've heard from quite a few people who have been following this
> > discussion,
> > but have not participated in it (for various reasons).
> > Therefore, I changed plans. Instead of trying to get more people to
> > participate in the discussion here, I will do what I'm trained to do: I'll
> > conduct a survey.
> > 
> > I think we've already come quite far with the draft and I don't think we
> > need much more open discussion. We have a quite good draft, but in several
> > points, we have your personal opinion against my personal opinion, and now
> > I think the next step whould be to find out what the majority (especially
> > the "silent majority") thinks.
> > 
> > Tomorrow I will try to identify the points which are still contested (and
> > I'm happy for you or others to contribute to that as well) and put them in
> > a survey (along with those on which we agree, just to make sure the
> > majority agrees with us as well) which I will spread via the Dot, this
> > list, the ev- membership list and maybe kde-devel just to be sure.
> > 
> > This survey will also invite people to join the mailing list discussion,
> > but will primarily aim to just get numbers on those issues where we don't
> > know what the majority thinks.
> > 
> > While I'm confident that we have found a Vision which everybody agrees to,
> > I feel that for some points of the Mission, we'll have to go with a
> > majority vote, because there are competing standpoints which are both
> > valid but cannot really be harmonized. On the other hand, I do not think
> > the standpoints are so far apart that those who prefer the minority
> > position would not be able to identify with the Mission as a whole
> > anymore if we adopted the majority position.
> > 
> > So, unless there are strong arguments against this approach, this is what
> > I
> > will do.
> 
> Sounds good, I'm happy to help.

I have created a survey draft at
http://survey.kde.org/index.php/858172/lang-en

Now please everybody click through it and give feedback on anything that you 
think should be changed.

Once it feels like we agree on the survey, I'll publish it on the Dot and on 
the kde-community and kde-devel mailing lists, hoping to reach most KDE 
contributors and interested users.

Thank you in advance for your feedback,
Thomas

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Re: [kde-community] possible foss alternative to telegram/slack

[Marco Martin]

On Wednesday 18 May 2016 09:19:47 Filipe Saraiva wrote:
> Em 18-05-2016 02:28, Luca Beltrame escreveu:
> > Il giorno Tue, 17 May 2016 20:18:37 +0200
> > Thomas Pfeiffer  ha
> > 
> > scritto:
> >> Good point! I think we should use it internally extensively before
> >> switching any public communication over to it.
> > 
> > More food for thought: another alternative may be Matrix[1] a FOSS,
> > federated service a la Jabber. Unfortunately it lacks "proper" desktop
> > clients, but there are a number of web and mobile clients around[2].
> 
> Other alternative is Rocket.chat [1]. There are several ways to deploy a
> server, clients for mobile and desktop, integration with some services,
> and more. The README [2] has also a lot of information.
> 
> [1] https://rocket.chat/
> [2] https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat

that looks neat as well
and seems the mobile clients are available free of charge, even tough the 
public sources seems only for the server, not for the clients?
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Re: [kde-community] possible foss alternative to telegram/slack

[Marco Martin]

On Tuesday 17 May 2016 20:18:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> In that regard, I'm for getting us an installation as soon as possible so we
> could try out or well it works for us.
> If it still proves to work well after the "oh, shiny new toy!" emotion
> wears off, we could make it official.

for me the issue is mostly not depending from a proprietary service, the "ooh, 
shiny" part doesn't really play a big role

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Re: [kde-community] QtCon CfP published

[Kenny Duffus]

On Wednesday, 18 May 2016 12:10:06 BST Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> that's awesome! What about signing up for shirts selling and general
> volunteering in real world chores of aKademy?
> 

We will be announcing a call for volunteers around mid July

If someone would like to help with drafting that they could start by 
creating a pad on notes.kde.org and refer to previous years which would be 
a help

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Re: [kde-community] QtCon CfP published

[Bhushan Shah]

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:05:25 AM IST, Sivan Greenberg wrote:

 As I see the deadline has passed and I missed it (I was under a strong flu
for the last 2 weeks) is there room to ask for extension to submit mine ?


Actually deadline was extended, and new deadline is 22nd May

Thanks

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Re: [kde-community] QtCon CfP published

[Sivan Greenberg]

Hi all,

 As I see the deadline has passed and I missed it (I was under a strong flu
for the last 2 weeks) is there room to ask for extension to submit mine ?

 Thanks and sorry apologies,

-Sivan

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Kenny Duffus  wrote:

> Hi
>
> The CfP for QtCon has now been published:
>
> https://dot.kde.org/2016/04/04/qtcon-call-papers
>
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