Re: [kde-community] Forum improvements

2015-09-28 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:57:49 +0200, Jaroslaw Staniek ha scritto:

> I think more actively asking for supporting this part of the
> infrastructure make sense. People are using it after all and benefiting

IMO, first we need a better retention rate. KDE unfortunately was never 
good at keeping poeple working on web stuff.

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Re: [kde-community] Forum improvements

2015-09-28 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:48:02 +0200, Jaroslaw Staniek ha scritto:

Hello Jaroslaw,

> towards two things. Posting here so perhaps people accustomed with web
> services read this. Excuse me if this is already on someone's desk.

As far as I know, no one is working on the forum code. Some of your 
suggestions make sense, but I can't really discuss them here because we 
have a much larger obstacle ahead first: the upgrade to phpBB 3.1.

Despite being a "minor" version, phpBB 3.1 is nothing like phpBB 3.0. In 
fact, I don't think, to my limited understanding, very close code wise. 
An upgrade to the forum is hard because we have a lot of modifications:

- Brainstorm (not sure how many use that nowadays, but it's there)
- Mod tools (quick ban for spammers)
- Search
- The theme itself
- ... 

Currently the staff has no time to even think about this upgrade, which 
will become necessary sooner or later. And if anyone wonders about a GSoC, 
I don't think it qualifies as GSoC material, and unfortunately even if it 
did, I'd have no time for mentoring. 

We need someone from the community, preferably *more* than one person as 
it's a large task, with good PHP knowledge, which could help us.

Sorry for hijacking your thread.


> So what I do when I expect answer to an important topic is: navigating
> (nightmare on mobile device) to the topic and click via subsequent pages
> to find the answer

I'm not sure if they changed in 3.1 compared to 3.0, as I didn't look 
closely enough.

> able to fix it (in the style sheets?) for most cases or by googling
> "phpBB-Mobile".

We need someone to help us with the theming, but doing it for phpbb 3.0 is 
IMO a wasted effort.

> Would it be possible to have a filter (ON or OFF by default?) e.g. in

I'm not sure it is possible (again, unsure about phpBB 3.1).

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[kde-community] Forum improvements

2015-09-28 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
Thanks to the community effort, the KDE Forum's structure is clearly
much natural now!

Since good investments have been made here, next how about taking
steps towards two things. Posting here so perhaps people accustomed
with web services read this. Excuse me if this is already on someone's
desk.

1. Making forum notifications useful
2. Making forums mobile-friendly
3. Solution to avoid mixing local and archived forums with the global ones

Issues I see at least:
Ad 1.
1) Actually it's like <> mail
subject and there's no clear idea that it's from KDE. No user name
assigned to forum-ad...@kde.org or a [KDE Forum] in the subject. It
grabs a few seconds more from every attempt of scanning my
mailboxes...

2) Notifications somehow form a true login-walled Internet -- more
than github notifications I'd say - clicking on the link for the
subject brings me to a login page - quite unexpected on mobile device.
So what I do when I expect answer to an important topic is: navigating
(nightmare on mobile device) to the topic and click via subsequent
pages to find the answer

3)  Actually the notifications would decrease the traffic _if_ the
content was injected in the notification screen if that's my wish; the
forum engine we're using seems to be optimised to boost the visit
count to get more from ads... something we totally don't need.

Ad 2. The layout is like a single word in width in a phone browser;
someone who knows how to apply html screen parameters correctly might
be able to fix it (in the style sheets?) for most cases or by googling
"phpBB-Mobile".

Ad 3. Localized KDE forums (many Persian for example) and archived
forums account for quite a few of the entire forum list. [1]
Would it be possible to have a filter (ON or OFF by default?) e.g. in
the account settings, so actual search results and browsing hierarchy
is a bit simpler for many users?

[1] http://i.imgur.com/xAEukdF.png

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