Re: [kde-community] Proposal: KDE Manifesto wording revision

2013-11-11 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-11-11, Thomas Zander zan...@kde.org wrote: Could you please explain to those that don't immediately spot it how the before and after are functionally different? That it opens up for several groups of contributors, KDE contributors and other people. I do also think that it is important

Re: [kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-01-15, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: tarball? An XML file somewhere? Personally I find distros should be smart enough to decide which apps they want to ship by default and which not. I've actually in my distribution tried to ship stuff, including package selection, quite close

Re: [kde-community] Request to join the Kde incubator for GCompris

2014-02-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-19, Agustin benito bethencourt aben...@kde.org wrote: I must confess though that I am worry about the association between: * proprietary platforms = commercial * free platforms = non commercial that might be implied from this model. I understood it that it was 'source code is free

Re: [kde-community] Berlin - Brno road trip

2014-06-22 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-06-18, Patrick Spendrin patrick_spend...@gmx.de wrote: I looked at Deutsche Bahn and there is a direct train from Berlin to Brno on the 4th (thursday, remember on friday is e.V. GA) starting at 12:46 Dresden at 15:06 arrival at 20:19 cost 41,60 EUR p.P. I might somehow also join

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

2014-09-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-09-02, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: Hi all, A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated. Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or indications that they can be closed? @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly.

Re: [kde-community] Mailing lists with private archives

2015-04-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-04-06, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: Hi, these lists have private archives * https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok-bugs-dist * https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde * https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-announce *

Re: [kde-community] Program to show presenter time remaining countdown for Akademy talks

2015-07-03 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Friday 26 June 2015 09:18:01 Peter Bouda wrote: On the other end of the simple-complex scale I suggest to create an Embedded Linux system that boots a QML count down app. I did a similar project recently, with touchscreen and WIFI, so it would be a matter of writing the QML code. I have a

[kde-community] Participate with KDE at Qt World Summit 2015

2015-08-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
Qt World summit is approaching, and it is likely going to be amazing: http://www.qtworldsummit.com/ - 5th - 7th October 2015 KDE will be there, with a booth and gaining knowledge and helping the conference a bit. We have quite a bit of tickets, so now we just need people. Are you one of them?

Re: [kde-community] KGpg

2015-08-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-08-30, Jeremy Whiting jpwhit...@kde.org wrote: Which aspects of KGpg are nicer to use? Could those same changes come to Kleopatra possibly? or is this another Parley vs KWordquiz and we should do our best to keep both around? The key list and coloring is .. nicer. And Kleopatra tries

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

2015-09-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-20, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > But effectively it won't be reviews because the KDE reviewers won't use it. > Or do you think we need some dracon law because our community cannot do > self-control? I have just been fooled once regarding github and KDE. That makes me not

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

2015-09-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-20, Kevin Krammer wrote: > First, I have no idea where this "use github for review" comes from at = > all. > Who wants to do that in the first place? The github pull requests comes automatically with review abilities, so once it is there and one already interacts with

Re: [kde-community] Bikeshedding - our strength apparently *sigh*

2015-09-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-19, Kevin Krammer wrote: >> No, I'm afraid of code review slowly moving from KDE to github up to = > the >> final point where I need to get a github account because otherwise I = > cannot >> contribute code. > > You mean that a KDE project would ignore your review

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

2015-09-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-20, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > How exactly have you been fooled? > Proposal #1 - accepted, Proposal #1 was a pure mirror. No other services used. Before the initial mirror was actually completed, the next proposal comes up to start doing even more github. >

Re: [kde-community] A bridge between Phab and Github?

2015-09-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-20, Emil Sedgh wrote: > What if we create a bot that makes a review request on our internal tool > (Phab/Reviewboard) for each Github Pull request and tries to make a > bridge between KDE's infrastructure and Github? > > A bot that would sync the

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

2015-09-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-20, Martin Klapetek wrote: > Gnome in their years history of github mirroring had 4 pull requests > (it was mentioned in the other thread...one of the others). > > So we might very likely be talking non-issues here anyway. Gnome is actively advicing against

Re: [kde-community] Official KDE mirror on github

2015-09-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-19, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > > Sounds like a bit superficial premature complain. If only we had a flood of > pull requests... It is not premature to complain! I personally feel a bit fucked over right now. All this started with a KDE github mirror and *just a

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

2015-09-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-19, Martin Klapetek wrote: > To further expand on the idea, the workflow would be as follows: > > * bot looks through our repos > * bot finds a pull request > * bot downloads the diff between requested branch and mirror HEAD > * bot uploads it to phabricator

Re: [kde-community] Official KDE mirror on github

2015-09-18 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-09-18, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Don't we slowly drop support for Reviewboard? > (even I am still not sure how to correctly update phabricator diff > from command line) Then notes should be changed when we move from reviewboard to > 2. Regarding the issues/pull

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-22 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2016-03-15, David Jarvie wrote: >>> > "A world in which everyone enjoys freedom and privacy and has >>control >>> > over their digital life." > > "A world in which everyone has control over their digital life and enjoys > freedom and privacy." I've not been able to follow

Re: [kde-community] please explain: Users shouldn't have to buy in into "KDE" from mission ideas

2016-07-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2016-07-09, sabayon11 wrote: > Does it mean that I will be able to install Dolphin as stand-alone > application on other graphic environments like Xfce, Cinammon, i.e. > without all Plasma dependences like kde-runtime, etc.? kde-runtime was not a plasma dependency, but an

Re: KDE Licensing Policy Updates

2016-09-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2016-09-20, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Differences: > Removed > "code may not be copied from Qt into KDE Platform as Qt is LGPL 2.1" > Rationale: Qt is now LGPL 3 as well as 2 Qt is not LGPL2.1 in general. As long as we want to be LGPL2.1 compat, we can't copy code from Qt.

Re: KDE at Qt World Summit 2017 - let's make it the best yet!

2017-08-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2017-08-08, Eike Hein wrote: > Berlin, Germany will once again host a Qt World Summit this year, on > October 10th through 12th. This follows on from the Qt Contributor > Summit on October 9th and 10th. > > I've stepped up to coordinate KDE's presence at QtWS this year. Sune, >

Re: List for job offers

2018-02-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-02-19, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > I think it would be a good idea. Also, I don't really see why someone looking > for a good Qt developer wouldn't make a beeline for our community :-) > I have in the past approached several companies trying to get them to support KDE

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-08-19, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Interestingly, in almost all conversations I had at Akademy about this topic, > people were actually very positive about the prospect of growing an ecosystem > of companies around KDE. Maybe it's the difference between the people who are > still active

Re: FOSDEM: call to action!

2018-08-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-08-22, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > There's a lot more material about FOSDEM booths than is initially apparent. > There have been threads on various lists about merchandise, too: basically it > comes down to "print or order stuff locally, get it reimbursed". Just this > week at Akademy i

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-08-24, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > This was a quite complex situation, there were many factors involved. But > again the negative feedback was not about the question if it's ok to pay > developers but about other aspects of how the project was handled. And on some of those questions,

Re: Qt World Summit 2018

2018-09-04 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-09-04, Eike Hein wrote: > In the debrief, I think we were quite happy with how things went and > concluded if we get another chance, we'd try to do it again. The Qt > Company feels the same way, as they've reached out and offered similar > accomodations for this year as well. I think we

Re: Improving Bugzilla Status Names

2018-09-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-09-29, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >> discuss on the appropriateness of REOPENED. >> I'd rather find an alternative for REPORTED, if this confusion is going to >> > > OPENED ? RECIEVED ? though opened might be better. /Sune

Re: Coming to FOSDEM?

2019-01-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-01-10, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > It would be nice if the list of people were complete-ish, so we (as a > community) know who to look out for and look forward to. If you're available > to help at the booth, please say so as well. Jonathan is coordinating things, I'll probably be there,

Re: Licensing policy change proposal

2019-01-27 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-01-27, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > >> On 27 Jan 2019, at 15:04, Krešimir Čohar wrote: >> >> This email puts forth for your consideration a proposal to change our >> current licensing policy to accommodate three more licenses that cover the >> new photographic selection of wallpapers in

Re: Licensing policy change proposal

2019-01-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-01-29, Krešimir Čohar wrote: > I wouldn't necessarily characterize the Unsplash license as FOSS, but > rather public domain with restrictions (not entirely public domain). I also I think this is a problem. Both "not characterize as FOSS", and "with restrictions". And basically the core

Re: Anonymous contributions

2019-04-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-04-12, Eike Hein wrote: > Pseudonyms don't jive with that for me. Someone not entrusting me with > their real name feels regressive vs. our current community standards. > It's a bit uncomfortable. I have kind of the same feeling. Though real name doesn't have to be legal name. But

Re: Issues with the issue tracking system

2019-11-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2019-11-04, Philippe Cloutier wrote: > Over the last months, I requested the "severity" (importance) of several > tickets to be adjusted: I'm not sure if you have grown up over time, but I kind of sense the same attitude from you as back when you were banned from debian bts, as one of the

Re: BoF Input: Positive Message for SW License Presentation

2020-09-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2020-09-08, Andreas Cord-Landwehr wrote: > **LGPL 3.0** > For you as a developer > ... and in return > - you have to provide explenation how to update the library In general, I kind of like it. Though this isn't said "strong" enough. Adding "and must make it technically possible to do so".

Re: is a BSL licensed service acceptable for sysadminy use cases?

2021-05-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2021-05-26, Anna “CyberTailor” wrote: >> After 36 months, the code becomes Apache-2.0 licensed (the conversion period) > > So you can use old sentry versions, which are open source. > +1. I think we should support free and open source software. /Sune

Re: RMS and open letter

2021-03-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2021-03-24, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Thanks, Carl. I would like to point out that Carl posted his suggestion to > the individual people on this list. He did not propose that the KDE e.V. > officially take a stand. Then I'd like to propose that KDE signs it. /Sune

Re: RMS and open letter

2021-03-25 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2021-03-24, Jos van den Oever wrote: > The GitHub organization that initiated the letter is anonymous: >https://github.com/rms-open-letter It might be anonymous in the organization, but the people behind it is our friends at OSI, our friends in Gnome and our friends in Debian and some

Re: [discussion] archiving and retiring the Dot

2023-10-03 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2023-10-02, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote: > In this context, a radical idea came up: perhaps we can archive and > retire the Dot altogether. I'd like to come up with an alternative proposal: Make the dot more used: - Make it easier to submit articles there - Retire all project blogs in

Re: Gitlab update, 2FA now mandatory

2022-10-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2022-10-23, Ben Cooksley wrote: > (such as a Yubikey) or TOTP (using the app of choice on your phone) There seems to be some questions about what possible "app of choice" is available. kde has keysmith f-droid have freeotp+ sailfish has sailotp somewhere In the less privacy oriented

Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-01 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2023-04-30, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote: [Low traffic lists with relevant subscribers] > In my opinion moving discussions to more active channels like Matrix or > Discuss may increase visibility of the topics discussed and encourage > participation from the larger community. Such

Re: using gitlab ultimate

2023-08-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2023-08-02, Harald Sitter wrote: > I don't think so As such, I have a hard time seeing that these mentioned features is important enough to give in on what I feel are our principles of a organization doing free software. I have a hard time finding any featureset where it would be important

Re: using gitlab ultimate

2023-08-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2023-08-02, Harald Sitter wrote: > Ahoy! > > How about we start using the gitlab ultimate rather than the free version? Is it free software ? https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html /Sune

Re: planet forwarding to discuss?

2023-06-21 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2023-06-21, Harald Sitter wrote: > may be of interest > https://discuss.kde.org/t/post-planet-kde-org-blogs-on-discuss-automatically/2287/1 I kind of want comments to my blog post as comments on my blog post, not in all sorts of other forums. /Sune