Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Good morning community,

Each month an automated process checks the length of the moderation queue
on all KDE.org mailing lists.
This is part of ensuring that lists are actively moderated and not left too
long.

I have now reviewed the moderation queues of all of the below (English)
lists, and as part of this sadly released legitimate messages that had been
held in some cases since February this year.

Can we please look into the moderation situation of the below lists,
including whether that list is still in active use (and if not whether it
should be folded into another list, or closed entirely)?

Thanks,
Ben

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 47 kexi
 38 kopete-devel
 35 kget
 34 kde-artists
 33 kde-linux
 28 kalzium
 27 marble-devel
 26 neon-notifications
 25 kde-i18n-eo
 17 kde-l10n-hu
 16 kde-l10n-kn
 15 kde-i18n-sr
 14 kde-telepathy
 11 plasma-devel
 11 kde-latam
  8 konq-bugs
  8 kde-l10n-he
  8 kde-l10n-en_gb
  8 kde-bugs-dist
  7 marble-bugs
  7 choqok-devel
  6 kde-look
  6 kde-i18n-nds
  5 kde-games-devel

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 1:56 AM Neofytos Kolokotronis  wrote:
>
> On 01.08.2020 21:28, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> >
> > Please see below the list of mailing lists which have the largest
> > number of messages currently awaiting moderation.
> >
> > Should any of these lists no longer be in use, please get in touch so
> > we can arrange for the list to be closed or redirected to another
> > list.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ben
> >
>
> The kde-ev-marketing mailing list is obsolete nowadays and can be
> closed, as it has been replaced by kde-promo.

Thanks for letting us know about this Neofytos, i've now closed the list.

Cheers,
Ben

>
>
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> > From: root 
> > Date: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM
> > Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
> > To: 
> >
> >
> >  60 kde-artists
> >  43 kexi
> >  39 kde-ev-financial-wg
> >  28 kde-l10n-en_gb
> >  28 kalzium
> >  25 kde-linux
> >  22 kopete-devel
> >  22 kget
> >  19 kde-l10n-kn
> >  16 kde-ev-marketing
> >  15 koffice-devel
> >  15 kde-l10n-hu
> >  15 kde-i18n-eo
> >  14 kde-i18n-sr
> >  14 kde-core-devel
> >  12 kde-l10n-si
> >  11 marble-devel
> >  11 kde-telepathy
> >  11 kde-buildsystem
> >  11 kde-bugs-dist
> >   9 kdevelop
> >   8 kde-latam
> >   7 konq-bugs
> >   7 kompare-devel
> >   7 kde-women
>
> Thanks,
> Neofytos

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Neofytos Kolokotronis]

On 01.08.2020 21:28, Ben Cooksley wrote:

Hi all,


Hi Ben,



Please see below the list of mailing lists which have the largest
number of messages currently awaiting moderation.

Should any of these lists no longer be in use, please get in touch so
we can arrange for the list to be closed or redirected to another
list.

Regards,
Ben



The kde-ev-marketing mailing list is obsolete nowadays and can be 
closed, as it has been replaced by kde-promo.




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 60 kde-artists
 43 kexi
 39 kde-ev-financial-wg
 28 kde-l10n-en_gb
 28 kalzium
 25 kde-linux
 22 kopete-devel
 22 kget
 19 kde-l10n-kn
 16 kde-ev-marketing
 15 koffice-devel
 15 kde-l10n-hu
 15 kde-i18n-eo
 14 kde-i18n-sr
 14 kde-core-devel
 12 kde-l10n-si
 11 marble-devel
 11 kde-telepathy
 11 kde-buildsystem
 11 kde-bugs-dist
  9 kdevelop
  8 kde-latam
  7 konq-bugs
  7 kompare-devel
  7 kde-women


Thanks,
Neofytos

Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi all,

Please see below the list of mailing lists which have the largest
number of messages currently awaiting moderation.

Should any of these lists no longer be in use, please get in touch so
we can arrange for the list to be closed or redirected to another
list.

Regards,
Ben

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From: root 
Date: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:12 PM
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: 


 60 kde-artists
 43 kexi
 39 kde-ev-financial-wg
 28 kde-l10n-en_gb
 28 kalzium
 25 kde-linux
 22 kopete-devel
 22 kget
 19 kde-l10n-kn
 16 kde-ev-marketing
 15 koffice-devel
 15 kde-l10n-hu
 15 kde-i18n-eo
 14 kde-i18n-sr
 14 kde-core-devel
 12 kde-l10n-si
 11 marble-devel
 11 kde-telepathy
 11 kde-buildsystem
 11 kde-bugs-dist
  9 kdevelop
  8 kde-latam
  7 konq-bugs
  7 kompare-devel
  7 kde-women

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:03 AM tac...@t-online.de  wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,

Hi Torsten,

>
> I usually just keep the spam e-mails just piling up to a certain point in the 
> moderation queue.
> Sorry if that isn't the intended way.

I usually use moderation inactivity as one of the measures of "is this
list abandoned and no longer in use" so that isn't ideal...

>
> As to the mailing lists: We certainly still need marble-de...@kde.org for 
> further Marble development.
> marble-bugs and marble-commits would also be appreciated but are certainly 
> less important.

With regards to marble-commits, please note that it no longer gets
email from Git and only gets sporadic mail from translations (which
may disappear at some point) so it is essentially a dead list at this
point.

In terms of marble-devel, the activity on it seems to be very low - is
there any reason why it isn't part of the main kde-edu list?

>
> Would there be any issues with keeping them?
>
> Best regards
> Torsten
>
>
>

Cheers,
Ben

>
> -Original-Nachricht-
> Betreff: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
> Datum: 2020-01-01T18:53:48+0100
> Von: "Ben Cooksley" 
> An: "informing about and discussing non-technical community topics" 
> 
>
> Hi all,
>
> Below is a list of all the mailing lists which we host that have not
> been moderated recently, and as such have quite a few messages in
> moderation. I have now performed moderation on those queues, and with
> few exceptions virtually all of the messages were spam.
>
> For many of the lists, a review of their archives indicates that
> they're no longer active, in which case we should close them.
>
> I'd therefore like to propose that we close the following lists:
> - kalzium
> - kde-look
> - kde-bindings
> - kde-networkmanager
> - kde-telepathy
> - kopete-devel
> - kde-hardware-devel
> - kde-artists
> - marble-devel
> - marble-bugs
> - marble-commits
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
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> From: root 
> Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:12 AM
> Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
> To: 
>
>
> 108 kde-i18n-eo
>  23 kde-l10n-en_gb
>  18 marble-devel
>  18 kde-artists
>  17 taglib-devel
>  17 kde-l10n-kn
>  17 kde-ev-marketing
>  14 kde-latam
>  13 kde-i18n-pt
>  11 kde-el
>  10 marble-commits
>  10 marble-bugs
>  10 kde-bugs-dist
>  10 kalzium
>   9 kde-l10n-si
>   9 kde-hardware-devel
>   8 kopete-devel
>   8 kde-l10n-hu
>   8 kde-i18n-sr
>   7 mailman
>   7 kde-telepathy
>   7 kde-networkmanager
>   7 kde-look
>   7 kde-bindings
>   6 plasma-bugs
> 

AW: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[tac...@t-online.de]

Hi Ben,

I usually just keep the spam e-mails just piling up to a certain point in the 
moderation queue.
Sorry if that isn't the intended way.

As to the mailing lists: We certainly still need marble-de...@kde.org for 
further Marble development.
marble-bugs and marble-commits would also be appreciated but are certainly less 
important.

Would there be any issues with keeping them?

Best regards
Torsten




-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
Datum: 2020-01-01T18:53:48+0100
Von: "Ben Cooksley" 
An: "informing about and discussing non-technical community topics" 


Hi all,

Below is a list of all the mailing lists which we host that have not
been moderated recently, and as such have quite a few messages in
moderation. I have now performed moderation on those queues, and with
few exceptions virtually all of the messages were spam.

For many of the lists, a review of their archives indicates that
they're no longer active, in which case we should close them.

I'd therefore like to propose that we close the following lists:
- kalzium
- kde-look
- kde-bindings
- kde-networkmanager
- kde-telepathy
- kopete-devel
- kde-hardware-devel
- kde-artists
- marble-devel
- marble-bugs
- marble-commits

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Ben

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From: root 
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:12 AM
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: 


108 kde-i18n-eo
 23 kde-l10n-en_gb
 18 marble-devel
 18 kde-artists
 17 taglib-devel
 17 kde-l10n-kn
 17 kde-ev-marketing
 14 kde-latam
 13 kde-i18n-pt
 11 kde-el
 10 marble-commits
 10 marble-bugs
 10 kde-bugs-dist
 10 kalzium
  9 kde-l10n-si
  9 kde-hardware-devel
  8 kopete-devel
  8 kde-l10n-hu
  8 kde-i18n-sr
  7 mailman
  7 kde-telepathy
  7 kde-networkmanager
  7 kde-look
  7 kde-bindings
  6 plasma-bugs


Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi all,

Below is a list of all the mailing lists which we host that have not
been moderated recently, and as such have quite a few messages in
moderation. I have now performed moderation on those queues, and with
few exceptions virtually all of the messages were spam.

For many of the lists, a review of their archives indicates that
they're no longer active, in which case we should close them.

I'd therefore like to propose that we close the following lists:
- kalzium
- kde-look
- kde-bindings
- kde-networkmanager
- kde-telepathy
- kopete-devel
- kde-hardware-devel
- kde-artists
- marble-devel
- marble-bugs
- marble-commits

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Ben

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From: root 
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 1:12 AM
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: 


108 kde-i18n-eo
 23 kde-l10n-en_gb
 18 marble-devel
 18 kde-artists
 17 taglib-devel
 17 kde-l10n-kn
 17 kde-ev-marketing
 14 kde-latam
 13 kde-i18n-pt
 11 kde-el
 10 marble-commits
 10 marble-bugs
 10 kde-bugs-dist
 10 kalzium
  9 kde-l10n-si
  9 kde-hardware-devel
  8 kopete-devel
  8 kde-l10n-hu
  8 kde-i18n-sr
  7 mailman
  7 kde-telepathy
  7 kde-networkmanager
  7 kde-look
  7 kde-bindings
  6 plasma-bugs

Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi all,

Please see the below lists of mailing lists which have a larger number
of messages in moderation.

If these lists are still active, we need to look into ensuring they
have an active moderator. For those lists which are no longer in use,
we should look at closing them (if necessary, aliasing them to another
list if there is sufficient crossover).

Cheers,
Ben

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From: root 
Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 11:12 PM
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: 

 70 kde-i18n-eo
 50 marble-devel
 45 kopete-devel
 39 kde-artists
 25 kget
 24 marble-bugs
 24 kde-linux
 23 kde-ev-marketing
 22 kde-l10n-en_gb
 21 calligra-devel
 19 kdevelop
 18 kde-look
 16 kde-ev-board
 15 kde-hardware-devel
 13 konq-bugs
 11 marble-commits
 10 koffice-devel
 10 kde-l10n-kn
  9 kde-el
  8 kexi
  8 kde-latam
  8 freenx-knx
  7 kstars-devel

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On vrijdag 2 november 2018 06:36:35 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:30 AM Scott Petrovic  
wrote:
> > @boud - Yes, that is the mailing list for Krita release notifications. The
> > emails say not to directly reply to it, but some people still do. Every
> > once in a while there is something important. With so many people on that
> > mailing list, it is usually spam email responses.
> Boud, i've now added you to the list of admins/moderators of that
> list, so you can see the moderation queue.
> You'll need to ask Scott for the password though due to how Mailman works.

Okay!

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Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM Jonathan Riddell  wrote:
>
>
> Why not just use kde-apps-announce? Having a separate mailing list for each 
> application just means people won't bother subscribing or moderating.

Krita has a very large user community, who are principally interested
in just releases of Krita, hence the separation.
It's announcement list also has the largest number of subscribers of
any list we host, with nearly triple the number of subscribers of the
next largest list.

>
> Jonathan
>

Regards,
Ben

>
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 03:30:33PM -0500, Scott Petrovic wrote:
> > @boud - Yes, that is the mailing list for Krita release notifications. The
> > emails say not to directly reply to it, but some people still do. Every 
> > once in
> > a while there is something important. With so many people on that mailing 
> > list,
> > it is usually spam email responses.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:07 PM Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
> >
> > On donderdag 1 november 2018 19:18:14 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Please see below, can the moderators for those lists please take a 
> > look
> > at
> > > their queues?
> > >
> > > If needed we can also look at adding additional moderators for some of
> > > those lists to help out.
> >
> > >   5 krita-announce
> >
> > Huh... What's that? Is that the list we use for release notification 
> > that
> > people can subscribe from at krita.org? If so, please make me moderator.
> >
> > --
> > https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org
> >
> >
> >

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:30 AM Scott Petrovic  wrote:
>
> @boud - Yes, that is the mailing list for Krita release notifications. The 
> emails say not to directly reply to it, but some people still do. Every once 
> in a while there is something important. With so many people on that mailing 
> list, it is usually spam email responses.

Boud, i've now added you to the list of admins/moderators of that
list, so you can see the moderation queue.
You'll need to ask Scott for the password though due to how Mailman works.

Cheers,
Ben

>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:07 PM Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
>>
>> On donderdag 1 november 2018 19:18:14 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Please see below, can the moderators for those lists please take a look at
>> > their queues?
>> >
>> > If needed we can also look at adding additional moderators for some of
>> > those lists to help out.
>>
>> >   5 krita-announce
>>
>> Huh... What's that? Is that the list we use for release notification that
>> people can subscribe from at krita.org? If so, please make me moderator.
>>
>> --
>> https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org
>>
>>

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Jonathan Riddell]

Why not just use kde-apps-announce? Having a separate mailing list for each 
application just means people won't bother subscribing or moderating.

Jonathan


On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 03:30:33PM -0500, Scott Petrovic wrote:
> @boud - Yes, that is the mailing list for Krita release notifications. The
> emails say not to directly reply to it, but some people still do. Every once 
> in
> a while there is something important. With so many people on that mailing 
> list,
> it is usually spam email responses. 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:07 PM Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
> 
> On donderdag 1 november 2018 19:18:14 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please see below, can the moderators for those lists please take a look
> at
> > their queues?
> >
> > If needed we can also look at adding additional moderators for some of
> > those lists to help out.
> 
> >       5 krita-announce
> 
> Huh... What's that? Is that the list we use for release notification that
> people can subscribe from at krita.org? If so, please make me moderator.
> 
> --
> https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org
> 
> 
> 

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Scott Petrovic]

@boud - Yes, that is the mailing list for Krita release notifications. The
emails say not to directly reply to it, but some people still do. Every
once in a while there is something important. With so many people on that
mailing list, it is usually spam email responses.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:07 PM Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:

> On donderdag 1 november 2018 19:18:14 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please see below, can the moderators for those lists please take a look
> at
> > their queues?
> >
> > If needed we can also look at adding additional moderators for some of
> > those lists to help out.
>
> >   5 krita-announce
>
> Huh... What's that? Is that the list we use for release notification that
> people can subscribe from at krita.org? If so, please make me moderator.
>
> --
> https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org
>
>
>

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On donderdag 1 november 2018 19:18:14 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Please see below, can the moderators for those lists please take a look at
> their queues?
> 
> If needed we can also look at adding additional moderators for some of
> those lists to help out.

>   5 krita-announce

Huh... What's that? Is that the list we use for release notification that 
people can subscribe from at krita.org? If so, please make me moderator.

-- 
https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org

Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi all,

Please see below, can the moderators for those lists please take a look at
their queues?

If needed we can also look at adding additional moderators for some of
those lists to help out.

Thanks,
Ben

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From: root 
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 01:12
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: 


 75 plasma-devel
 27 kde-ev-marketing
 25 kde-i18n-eo
 17 kde-l10n-en_gb
 15 kopete-devel
 15 kde-i18n-pt
 12 kde-bugs-dist
 10 kdevelop
 10 kdelibs-bugs
 10 kde-artists
  9 kget
  7 koffice-devel
  7 kde-l10n-hu
  7 kde-i18n-sr
  7 kde-el
  6 okular-devel
  6 marble-devel
  6 kde-accessibility
  5 kwin
  5 krita-announce
  5 kde-i18n-nds
  5 kde-hardware-devel
  4 marble-commits
  4 kexi
  4 kde-latam

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Valorie Zimmerman]

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Martin Gräßlin  wrote:
> Am 2016-12-03 12:47, schrieb Myriam Schweingruber:
>>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:
>>>
 Hi all,

 It's that time of month again.
 If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please
 moderate it's queue.
 20 kwin
>>>
>>>
>>> It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the
>>> list if there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I
>>> drop the spam.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the
>>> moderation queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for
>>> the moderators.
>>
>>
>> Well, deleting spam is also list moderator work in my book, so if you
>> need help on that one, just ask. As said before, I can help since I do
>> this anyway on several lists. I doubt there is a way to drop spam
>> automatically and only keep legit mails in moderation queue with
>> mailman.
>
>
> The problem is not moderating the list. The problem is that I get a stupid
> useless mail every day I have to look at about pending moderations and a
> stupid mail I have to human look at when a spam mail gets in.

The mod queue emails can pretty easily be skipped from inbox to a
folder, and then autodeleted in a day or so. IF you run listadmin
daily anyway.

> Note here: I get too many mails overall and the moderation queue mails are
> annoying as it's in 99.9 % useless junk which I have to manually look at.

I never look at them, since I run listadmin at least daily.

> Thanks for offering to help moderating the list, but that doesn't get my
> inbox cleaner. And that's what I care about. I don't care about how many
> spam mails are in the moderation queue, I care about the useless mail I get
> which I have to look at.
>
> Given that I think a mail which is marked by spamassassin as spam and shown
> as spam in the moderation queue, should not be going into the moderation
> queue in the first place. If someone sends a mail to the kwin list which
> looks like spam to spamassassin it won't be something useful from
> development perspective.
>
> Cheers
> Martin

Really, you do not have to look at them. If there is a terrible spam
attack, your hand might get tired hitting return 100 times in
listadmin, but otherwise, it takes a minute or two per day, depending
on how many lists you administer.

I just ran a listadmin session, doing date -u before and after, for 85
lists on four servers (Linuxchix.org, Rootsweb.com, Ubunbu.com and
KDE.org). it took 02:03 for an uncomplicated run. It will take longer
if there is lots to deal with, or one of the servers is slow.

And if there are multiple people taking out the spam, it takes less
time per run.

Valorie

-- 
http://about.me/valoriez

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Martin Gräßlin  wrote:
> Am 2016-12-03 12:47, schrieb Myriam Schweingruber:
>>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:
>>>
 Hi all,

 It's that time of month again.
 If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please
 moderate it's queue.
 20 kwin
>>>
>>>
>>> It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the
>>> list if there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I
>>> drop the spam.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the
>>> moderation queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for
>>> the moderators.
>>
>>
>> Well, deleting spam is also list moderator work in my book, so if you
>> need help on that one, just ask. As said before, I can help since I do
>> this anyway on several lists. I doubt there is a way to drop spam
>> automatically and only keep legit mails in moderation queue with
>> mailman.
>
>
> The problem is not moderating the list. The problem is that I get a stupid
> useless mail every day I have to look at about pending moderations and a
> stupid mail I have to human look at when a spam mail gets in.
>
> Note here: I get too many mails overall and the moderation queue mails are
> annoying as it's in 99.9 % useless junk which I have to manually look at.
>
> Thanks for offering to help moderating the list, but that doesn't get my
> inbox cleaner. And that's what I care about. I don't care about how many
> spam mails are in the moderation queue, I care about the useless mail I get
> which I have to look at.
>
> Given that I think a mail which is marked by spamassassin as spam and shown
> as spam in the moderation queue, should not be going into the moderation
> queue in the first place. If someone sends a mail to the kwin list which
> looks like spam to spamassassin it won't be something useful from
> development perspective.

Our filters assign three designations to emails that come in, based on
the score generated by SpamAssassin:

1) Ham
2) Potential Spam
3) Definite Spam

Anything which gets labelled as Definite Spam is rejected at SMTP
time, for all addresses. Everything else is accepted for delivery.
We get enough complaints from people as it is about the filter being
"too aggressive" so I don't think these thresholds should be adjusted.

Once an email is delivered to Mailman, a handler notes that the email
is Potential Spam and forcibly holds it for moderator attention.
This is to prevent sender address spoofing, which was used a while
back to hammer our lists with crap.
The same handler also auto accepts emails from Reviewboard, Bugzilla
and Jenkins so moderators don't have to.

Ham emails are allowed through to normal Mailman processing, and are
held/rejected/accepted/etc accordingly.
Messages should never be rejected using Mailman, as this results in
backscatter - something which can result in you being blacklisted.

Therefore the behaviour of our systems in this regard is entirely
correct and doing it's best to:

a) Minimize the spam which reaches our mailing lists
b) Maximise our ability to deliver email to our subscribers
c) Minimize loss of legitimate email sent to our lists
d) Keep the work a moderator needs to do to a minimum.

If we were to eliminate potential spam messages as you describe above,
there would be a definite violation of c) here, as false positives do
occur - it's a fact of life when your filter processes 10,000+ emails
a day. This is especially the case for non-English emails - a
behaviour that would disproportionately impact on various translation,
user assistance and region specific discussion lists. This is not an
acceptable change from my point of view.

>
> Cheers
> Martin

Regards,
Ben Cooksley
KDE Sysadmin

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ingo Klöcker]

On Saturday 03 December 2016 07:26:11 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> It's that time of month again.
> If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please moderate
> it's queue.

>  16 kde-bugs-dist

That's the list that receives automatic messages for new bugs, right?
I'm wondering whether it couldn't be moderated automatically. I mean 
there's only a single legit sender: bugs.kde.org. Messages from any 
other sender could automatically be discarded. Just wondering...


Regards,
Ingo


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Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Thomas Baumgart]

Hi all,

On Saturday 03 December 2016 12:47:17 Myriam Schweingruber wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> 
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin  wrote:
> > Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> It's that time of month again.
> >> If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please moderate it's
> >> queue.
> >> 
> >>  20 kwin
> > 
> > It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the list if
> > there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I drop the spam.
> > 
> > It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the moderation
> > queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for the moderators.
> 
> Well, deleting spam is also list moderator work in my book, so if you need
> help on that one, just ask. As said before, I can help since I do this
> anyway on several lists. I doubt there is a way to drop spam automatically
> and only keep legit mails in moderation queue with mailman.

Well, I do this automated for the global kde-commits for more than two years 
and the KMyMoney list since many years now. The number of false positives 
(those marked as spam and discarded automatically but were legitimate mails) 
during this time is in the single digit numbers. 

In case someone is interested, I can add the resp. list to my job (which also 
processes a bunch of non KDE mailing lists but all mailman driven). Just let 
me know.

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Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Martin Gräßlin]

Am 2016-12-03 12:47, schrieb Myriam Schweingruber:

Hi Martin,

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin 
wrote:


Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:


Hi all,

It's that time of month again.
If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please
moderate it's queue.
20 kwin


It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the
list if there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I
drop the spam.

It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the
moderation queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for
the moderators.


Well, deleting spam is also list moderator work in my book, so if you
need help on that one, just ask. As said before, I can help since I do
this anyway on several lists. I doubt there is a way to drop spam
automatically and only keep legit mails in moderation queue with
mailman.


The problem is not moderating the list. The problem is that I get a 
stupid useless mail every day I have to look at about pending 
moderations and a stupid mail I have to human look at when a spam mail 
gets in.


Note here: I get too many mails overall and the moderation queue mails 
are annoying as it's in 99.9 % useless junk which I have to manually 
look at.


Thanks for offering to help moderating the list, but that doesn't get my 
inbox cleaner. And that's what I care about. I don't care about how many 
spam mails are in the moderation queue, I care about the useless mail I 
get which I have to look at.


Given that I think a mail which is marked by spamassassin as spam and 
shown as spam in the moderation queue, should not be going into the 
moderation queue in the first place. If someone sends a mail to the kwin 
list which looks like spam to spamassassin it won't be something useful 
from development perspective.


Cheers
Martin

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Myriam Schweingruber]

Hi Martin,

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin  wrote:

> Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It's that time of month again.
>> If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please moderate it's
>> queue.
>>  20 kwin
>>
>
> It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the list if
> there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I drop the spam.
>
> It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the moderation
> queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for the moderators.
>

Well, deleting spam is also list moderator work in my book, so if you need
help on that one, just ask. As said before, I can help since I do this
anyway on several lists. I doubt there is a way to drop spam automatically
and only keep legit mails in moderation queue with mailman.

Regards, Myriam

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Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Martin Gräßlin]

Am 2016-12-02 19:26, schrieb Ben Cooksley:

Hi all,

It's that time of month again.
If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please moderate 
it's queue.

 20 kwin


It's all spam and I'm not logging in to delete spam. I go into the list 
if there is a real mail which needs to be moderated. Then I drop the 
spam.


It would be nice if we could get the spam mails not in the moderation 
queue in the first place. Would mean much less work for the moderators.


Cheers
Martin

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Luigi Toscano]

Il 02 dicembre 2016 20:29:17 CET, Aaron Honeycutt  
ha scritto:
>I thought kde-telepathy was to replace kopete?

Yes and no. And right now kopete is alive.



-- 
Luigi

Re: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Aaron Honeycutt]

I thought kde-telepathy was to replace kopete?

On Dec 2, 2016 2:23 PM, "Daniel Vrátil" <dvra...@kde.org> wrote:

Hola pimsters,

does anyone still use korganizer-devel? It looks only like a collection of
bug report emails. Maybe we should consider closing it down

Dan


  Original Message
From: bcooks...@kde.org
Sent: December 2, 2016 19:26
To: kde-community@kde.org
Reply-to: kde-community@kde.org
Subject: Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

Hi all,

It's that time of month again.
If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please moderate it's
queue.

If a list is no longer in use, please file a sysadmin ticket so we can
clean that up.

Cheers,
Ben Cooksley


-- Forwarded message --
Date: 2016-12-02 1:12 GMT+13:00
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: sysad...@kde.org


 23 kopete-devel
 22 kde-l10n-hu
 20 kwin
 18 digikam-users
 17 kde-l10n-he
 17 freenx-knx
 16 kde-bugs-dist
 16 amarok
 15 social-desktop
 15 kde-buildsystem
 14 kexi
 14 kde-ev-board
 13 ksecretservice-devel
 13 konq-bugs
 12 mailman
 12 kde-nonlinux
 12 bugsquad
 11 kde-telepathy
 11 kde-licensing
 11 kde-artists
 11 k3b
 10 koffice-devel
 10 kde-i18n-eo
 10 kde-cl
  9 korganizer-devel

Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi all,

It's that time of month again.
If you're the moderator for one of the below lists, please moderate it's queue.

If a list is no longer in use, please file a sysadmin ticket so we can
clean that up.

Cheers,
Ben Cooksley


-- Forwarded message --
Date: 2016-12-02 1:12 GMT+13:00
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: sysad...@kde.org


 23 kopete-devel
 22 kde-l10n-hu
 20 kwin
 18 digikam-users
 17 kde-l10n-he
 17 freenx-knx
 16 kde-bugs-dist
 16 amarok
 15 social-desktop
 15 kde-buildsystem
 14 kexi
 14 kde-ev-board
 13 ksecretservice-devel
 13 konq-bugs
 12 mailman
 12 kde-nonlinux
 12 bugsquad
 11 kde-telepathy
 11 kde-licensing
 11 kde-artists
 11 k3b
 10 koffice-devel
 10 kde-i18n-eo
 10 kde-cl
  9 korganizer-devel

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote:
 You can close kbabel, last message was in 2008 and the program is not
 maintained/exsists anymore either.

Thanks, the kbabel list has now been closed.


 Cheers,
   Albert

Thanks,
Ben


 El Diumenge, 2 de novembre de 2014, a les 10:38:05, Ben Cooksley va escriure:
 Hi folks,

 It is the time of the month when we look for mailing lists which
 aren't being moderated again :)
 Can the moderators of the lists below please look into their queues
 and tidy them up?

 Based on the names of some of them, certain lists could probably also be
 closed. If this is the case, can the moderators please let sysadmin know?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --

 105 kexi
  48 freenx-knx
  27 kbabel
  26 kde-extra-gear
  20 kompare-devel
  19 kde-i18n-no
  19 kde-artists
  17 kde-l10n-hu
  16 kde-i18n-pt
  16 kde-el
  13 kde-guidelines
  11 kde-networkmanager
   9 ksecretservice-devel
   9 kde-l10n-es
   9 kde-bindings
   8 raptor
   8 kde-usa
   7 kde-i18n-eo
   7 kde-embedded
   7 inqlude
   6 marble-devel
   6 khtml-cvs
   6 kde-games-bugs
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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Albert Astals Cid]

You can close kbabel, last message was in 2008 and the program is not 
maintained/exsists anymore either.

Cheers,
  Albert

El Diumenge, 2 de novembre de 2014, a les 10:38:05, Ben Cooksley va escriure:
 Hi folks,
 
 It is the time of the month when we look for mailing lists which
 aren't being moderated again :)
 Can the moderators of the lists below please look into their queues
 and tidy them up?
 
 Based on the names of some of them, certain lists could probably also be
 closed. If this is the case, can the moderators please let sysadmin know?
 
 Thanks,
 Ben
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 
 105 kexi
  48 freenx-knx
  27 kbabel
  26 kde-extra-gear
  20 kompare-devel
  19 kde-i18n-no
  19 kde-artists
  17 kde-l10n-hu
  16 kde-i18n-pt
  16 kde-el
  13 kde-guidelines
  11 kde-networkmanager
   9 ksecretservice-devel
   9 kde-l10n-es
   9 kde-bindings
   8 raptor
   8 kde-usa
   7 kde-i18n-eo
   7 kde-embedded
   7 inqlude
   6 marble-devel
   6 khtml-cvs
   6 kde-games-bugs
   6 kde-francophone
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[kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi folks,

It is the time of the month when we look for mailing lists which
aren't being moderated again :)
Can the moderators of the lists below please look into their queues
and tidy them up?

Based on the names of some of them, certain lists could probably also be closed.
If this is the case, can the moderators please let sysadmin know?

Thanks,
Ben

-- Forwarded message --

105 kexi
 48 freenx-knx
 27 kbabel
 26 kde-extra-gear
 20 kompare-devel
 19 kde-i18n-no
 19 kde-artists
 17 kde-l10n-hu
 16 kde-i18n-pt
 16 kde-el
 13 kde-guidelines
 11 kde-networkmanager
  9 ksecretservice-devel
  9 kde-l10n-es
  9 kde-bindings
  8 raptor
  8 kde-usa
  7 kde-i18n-eo
  7 kde-embedded
  7 inqlude
  6 marble-devel
  6 khtml-cvs
  6 kde-games-bugs
  6 kde-francophone
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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Rinse de Vries ri...@kde.nl wrote:
 Hello,

Hi Rinse,


 Kde-i18n-fry is dormant for several years now,  so the mailinglist can be
 closed.

That has now been done - thanks for letting us know.


 Regards,  Rinse

Thanks,
Ben


 Op 2 sep. 2014 11:45 schreef Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org:

 Hi all,

 A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
 Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
 indications that they can be closed?

 @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
 queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
 dealt with.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --
 Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
 To: sysad...@kde.org


 109 kexi
  72 kde-artists
  70 kget
  62 kde-commits
  40 kde-i18n-fry
  33 kde-perl
  33 kde-i18n-pt
  31 kpovmodeler-devel
  24 owncloud
  23 konq-bugs
  19 kde-licensing
  18 kde-ev-marketing
  17 kbabel
  16 kde-solaris
  16 kde-pr
  15 kompare-devel
  13 kde-l10n-hu
  13 kde-el
  12 kde-extra-gear
  12 kde-bugs-dist
  12 freenx-knx
  11 kde-ev-board
  11 kde-de
  10 kde-networkmanager
   9 kde-webmaster
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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Rinse de Vries]

Hello,

Kde-i18n-fry is dormant for several years now,  so the mailinglist can be
closed.

Regards,  Rinse
Op 2 sep. 2014 11:45 schreef Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org:

 Hi all,

 A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
 Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
 indications that they can be closed?

 @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
 queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
 dealt with.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --
 Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
 To: sysad...@kde.org


 109 kexi
  72 kde-artists
  70 kget
  62 kde-commits
  40 kde-i18n-fry
  33 kde-perl
  33 kde-i18n-pt
  31 kpovmodeler-devel
  24 owncloud
  23 konq-bugs
  19 kde-licensing
  18 kde-ev-marketing
  17 kbabel
  16 kde-solaris
  16 kde-pr
  15 kompare-devel
  13 kde-l10n-hu
  13 kde-el
  12 kde-extra-gear
  12 kde-bugs-dist
  12 freenx-knx
  11 kde-ev-board
  11 kde-de
  10 kde-networkmanager
   9 kde-webmaster
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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Valorie Zimmerman
valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
 Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
 indications that they can be closed?

 @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
 queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
 dealt with.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --
 Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
 To: sysad...@kde.org


 109 kexi
  72 kde-artists
  70 kget
  62 kde-commits
  40 kde-i18n-fry
  33 kde-perl
  33 kde-i18n-pt
  31 kpovmodeler-devel
  24 owncloud
  23 konq-bugs
  19 kde-licensing
  18 kde-ev-marketing
  17 kbabel
  16 kde-solaris
  16 kde-pr
  15 kompare-devel
  13 kde-l10n-hu
  13 kde-el
  12 kde-extra-gear
  12 kde-bugs-dist
  12 freenx-knx
  11 kde-ev-board
  11 kde-de
  10 kde-networkmanager
   9 kde-webmaster

 I can take any of the lists left over. I just add them to my cli
 listadmin queue and delete, delete, delete the spam. A few more lists
 adds only minutes to the daily job.

If nobody has any objections, i'll reset the passwords for konq-bugs
and kde-bugs-dist and send them to Valorie.
In regards to kde-artists, kget, owncloud, kde-perl, kde-solaris and
kpovmodeler-devel, I would like to close these lists unless there is a
reason to retain them.

For the owncloud list, that has since migrated to their own systems I believe.

Thanks,
Ben


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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Valorie Zimmerman]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
 Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
 indications that they can be closed?

 @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
 queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
 dealt with.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --
 Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
 To: sysad...@kde.org


 109 kexi
  72 kde-artists
  70 kget
  62 kde-commits
  40 kde-i18n-fry
  33 kde-perl
  33 kde-i18n-pt
  31 kpovmodeler-devel
  24 owncloud
  23 konq-bugs
  19 kde-licensing
  18 kde-ev-marketing
  17 kbabel
  16 kde-solaris
  16 kde-pr
  15 kompare-devel
  13 kde-l10n-hu
  13 kde-el
  12 kde-extra-gear
  12 kde-bugs-dist
  12 freenx-knx
  11 kde-ev-board
  11 kde-de
  10 kde-networkmanager
   9 kde-webmaster

I can take any of the lists left over. I just add them to my cli
listadmin queue and delete, delete, delete the spam. A few more lists
adds only minutes to the daily job.

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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk wrote:
 On 2014-09-02, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
 Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
 indications that they can be closed?

 @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
 queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
 dealt with.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --
 Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
 To: sysad...@kde.org


 109 kexi
  72 kde-artists
  70 kget
  62 kde-commits
  40 kde-i18n-fry
  33 kde-perl
  33 kde-i18n-pt
  31 kpovmodeler-devel
  24 owncloud
  23 konq-bugs
  19 kde-licensing
 I can volunteer to co-moderate kde-licensing

Thanks, I've sent you the needed details now.

  18 kde-ev-marketing
  17 kbabel
  16 kde-solaris
  16 kde-pr
  15 kompare-devel
  13 kde-l10n-hu
  13 kde-el
  12 kde-extra-gear
  12 kde-bugs-dist
  12 freenx-knx
  11 kde-ev-board
  11 kde-de
  10 kde-networkmanager
   9 kde-webmaster

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[kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Ben Cooksley]

Hi all,

A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
indications that they can be closed?

@Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
dealt with.

Thanks,
Ben

-- Forwarded message --
Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
To: sysad...@kde.org


109 kexi
 72 kde-artists
 70 kget
 62 kde-commits
 40 kde-i18n-fry
 33 kde-perl
 33 kde-i18n-pt
 31 kpovmodeler-devel
 24 owncloud
 23 konq-bugs
 19 kde-licensing
 18 kde-ev-marketing
 17 kbabel
 16 kde-solaris
 16 kde-pr
 15 kompare-devel
 13 kde-l10n-hu
 13 kde-el
 12 kde-extra-gear
 12 kde-bugs-dist
 12 freenx-knx
 11 kde-ev-board
 11 kde-de
 10 kde-networkmanager
  9 kde-webmaster
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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Sune Vuorela]

On 2014-09-02, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 A number of our mailing lists appear to be being insufficiently moderated.
 Can we please have volunteers for moderating these lists, or
 indications that they can be closed?

 @Board: Please moderate your queue more regularly. Inspection of your
 queue reveals a number of very old messages in there which should be
 dealt with.

 Thanks,
 Ben

 -- Forwarded message --
 Subject: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation
 To: sysad...@kde.org


 109 kexi
  72 kde-artists
  70 kget
  62 kde-commits
  40 kde-i18n-fry
  33 kde-perl
  33 kde-i18n-pt
  31 kpovmodeler-devel
  24 owncloud
  23 konq-bugs
  19 kde-licensing
I can volunteer to co-moderate kde-licensing
  18 kde-ev-marketing
  17 kbabel
  16 kde-solaris
  16 kde-pr
  15 kompare-devel
  13 kde-l10n-hu
  13 kde-el
  12 kde-extra-gear
  12 kde-bugs-dist
  12 freenx-knx
  11 kde-ev-board
  11 kde-de
  10 kde-networkmanager
   9 kde-webmaster

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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Kevin Krammer]

On Tuesday, 2014-09-02, 21:45:15, Ben Cooksley wrote:

  11 kde-de

I can take this one, it is one of my regular lists.

Cheers,
Kevin

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Re: [kde-community] Fwd: Top 15 Mailinglists with messages in moderation

[Sebastian Kügler]

On Tuesday, September 02, 2014 21:45:15 Ben Cooksley wrote:
  18 kde-ev-marketing

This was mostly spam. I don't bother deleting every spam message separately, 
as that's a waste of time. For a list with relatively low traffic (such as 
this), it's not an uncommon number. I've modded everything now, anyway.
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