Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-28 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
Thanks! On zondag 28 oktober 2018 06:02:13 CET Andrew Crouthamel wrote: > FYI boud, I finally got around to making the changes we agreed to a few > weeks ago: https://phabricator.kde.org/D16474 > > Hopefully that helps. > > > Andrew Crouthamel > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-27 Thread Andrew Crouthamel
FYI boud, I finally got around to making the changes we agreed to a few weeks ago: https://phabricator.kde.org/D16474 Hopefully that helps. Andrew Crouthamel ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:49 PM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On maandag 8 oktober 2018 21:10:44

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-23 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:01 AM Nate Graham wrote: > > From the perspective of someone who triages non-Krita bugs, I would say that > the template has been a big success. My observations (again, for non-Krita > bugs) are as follows: > > 1. Technically adept users are now filing better bugs,

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-23 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On dinsdag 23 oktober 2018 23:01:21 CEST Nate Graham wrote: > I understand that this has not been the experience for Krita's bug triagers > because parts of the template assumes Plasma, and perhaps Krita has a > larger-than-average percentage of users who fall under category 3. What > this really

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-23 Thread Nate Graham
>From the perspective of someone who triages non-Krita bugs, I would say that >the template has been a big success. My observations (again, for non-Krita >bugs) are as follows: 1. Technically adept users are now filing better bugs, because they are faithfully filling out the template with

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-23 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On maandag 8 oktober 2018 21:10:44 CEST Andrew Crouthamel wrote: > > If someone doesn't want to fill out everything, they don't have to. I've > seen plenty of people deleting some of the template or not filling out some > fields. > There's another problem: the template assumes people are using

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-23 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On maandag 8 oktober 2018 21:10:44 CEST Andrew Crouthamel wrote: > > We had this previously, where the details were added in without any template > and the bug reports were very lacking, always requiring follow-up work. The > current template is at least producing bugs with higher quality >

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-08 Thread Andrew Crouthamel
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 5, 2018 2:23 PM, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote: > BTW, is having to enter detailed metainfo in Bugzilla really > neccesary? Currently, even for simple bugs, I have to enter: [...] > > As a comparison, at GitHub, to file a bug, you just have to

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-05 Thread Karl Ove Hufthammer
Kai Uwe Broulik skreiv 05.10.2018 09:16: I find it odd that you can write meaningful bugreports using DrKonqi that include version information and find the correct component whereas the "Report a bug" in "Help" just opens bugzilla webpage. It does fill out the correct product and version

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-05 Thread Harald Sitter
I do have a task on my to-do list for improving this using the new API we can use nowadays. So, it's possible to make this lots better and just needs coding really. If anyone wants to try I can mentor or give emotional support :) On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 09:16 Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > Am 04.10.2018

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-05 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Am 04.10.2018 um 22:11 schrieb Harald Sitter: Oh btw, just as a random FYI: I think stuff like this is why ubuntu eventually ended up having a GUI tool (ubuntu-bug) to help file bug reports with useful metadata. Putting it on the user to figure this stuff out is unreliable at best and can easily

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-05 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:27 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:11 PM Harald Sitter wrote: >> >> Oh btw, just as a random FYI: I think stuff like this is why ubuntu >> eventually ended up having a GUI tool (ubuntu-bug) to help file bug >> reports with useful metadata.

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-05 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:07 AM Harald Sitter wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:14 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > > > Can the template be overridden on a per-project basis? > > Yes. > > [% IF product.name == 'foobar' %] > ... > [% END %] > > I think making the template text more generically

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:11 PM Harald Sitter wrote: > Oh btw, just as a random FYI: I think stuff like this is why ubuntu > eventually ended up having a GUI tool (ubuntu-bug) to help file bug > reports with useful metadata. Putting it on the user to figure this > stuff out is unreliable at best

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Harald Sitter
Oh btw, just as a random FYI: I think stuff like this is why ubuntu eventually ended up having a GUI tool (ubuntu-bug) to help file bug reports with useful metadata. Putting it on the user to figure this stuff out is unreliable at best and can easily get overwhelming.

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:14 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > Can the template be overridden on a per-project basis? Yes. [% IF product.name == 'foobar' %] ... [% END %] I think making the template text more generically applicable is more reasonable though. Otherwise the about system bit can basically

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 21:06, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On donderdag 4 oktober 2018 21:01:37 CEST Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > > So I would imagine that quite general approach would be to allow "None" > > value for Plasma version and even KF5 version (this covers non-KF5 apps). > > "None" in contrast

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On donderdag 4 oktober 2018 21:01:37 CEST Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > So I would imagine that quite general approach would be to allow "None" > value for Plasma version and even KF5 version (this covers non-KF5 apps). > "None" in contrast to "Unknown". That's not relevant. It isn't a matter of

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
So I would imagine that quite general approach would be to allow "None" value for Plasma version and even KF5 version (this covers non-KF5 apps). "None" in contrast to "Unknown". PS: What's the link to the template please? On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:27, Ben Cooksley wrote: > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 5:14 AM Nate Graham wrote: > > Can the template be overridden on a per-project basis? It cannot be overridden on a per-project basis from my understanding. Regards, Ben > > Nate > > > On 10/04/2018 07:48 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This section: > > > >

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
Yes, that would be much better. On donderdag 4 oktober 2018 18:19:19 CEST Andrew Crouthamel wrote: > Why not just something generic: > > SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS > Windows: > MacOS: > Linux/KDE Plasma: > (available in About System) > KDE Plasma Version: > KDE Frameworks Version: > Qt Version: > >

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Michael Reeves
That sounds a lot better. Even on Linux kf5!=plasma . On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 12:19 PM Andrew Crouthamel wrote: > Why not just something generic: > > SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS > Windows: > MacOS: > Linux/KDE Plasma: > (available in About System) > KDE Plasma Version: > KDE Frameworks Version: > Qt

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Andrew Crouthamel
Why not just something generic: SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Windows: MacOS: Linux/KDE Plasma: (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: KDE Frameworks Version: Qt Version: Andrew Crouthamel ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, October 4, 2018 12:13 PM, Nate Graham wrote: > Can the

Re: Bugzilla template problems

2018-10-04 Thread Nate Graham
Can the template be overridden on a per-project basis? Nate On 10/04/2018 07:48 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: Hi, This section: SOFTWARE VERSIONS (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: KDE Frameworks Version: Qt Version: In the template I've never seen filled out. One problem, of