Re: KDE receives 200,000 USD-donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-02-25 Thread Shlomi Fish 
Hi Paul,

please reply to list - not to me in private.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:39:57 +0100
Paul Brown  wrote:

> On Monday, 19 February 2018 11:07:23 CET you wrote:
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:36:03 +0100
> > 
> > Paul Brown  wrote:  
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > As you probably know by now, KDE received an incredibly generous donation
> > > of 200K USD from the Pineapple Fund. We have made this public today.
> > > 
> > > You can find the dot article here:
> > > 
> > > https://dot.kde.org/2018/02/19/kde-receives-20-usd-donation-pineapple->
> > > > fund
> > > 
> > > Social Media links are here:
> > > 
> > > https://www.facebook.com/kde/posts/10155596759068918
> > > 
> > > https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/965514290705952768
> > > 
> > > https://mastodon.technology/@kde/99551258536879685
> > > 
> > > https://plus.google.com/b/105126786256705328374/+KdeOrg/posts/Qc3AbPegNCE
> > > 
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6371281068858966016
> > > 
> > > https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/7ylhg0/
> > > kde_received_20_from_the_pineapple_fund/
> > > 
> > > https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7ylhd3/
> > > kde_received_20_from_the_pineapple_fund/  
> > 
> > some of these links are split into two lines. Please fix it in the future
> > and/or use a url shortener.  
> 
> Hello Shlomi, 
> 
> How are you today? I hope you are well.
> 

quite.

> Re. Your message: using URL shorteners is probably a bad idea, for several 
> reasons: They force users to move through middlemen they don't 
> necessarily know about, leading to subreptitious tracking; make the web 
> slower; and can direct users to fake sites. They should be used only when 
> strictly necessary.
> 
> This means one should try and avoid them as much as possible and only use
> them when there is no other choice,for example, when there is a very little
> space for characters and a full URL would take up all the space.
> 

They can easily be included in addition to the full URLs, which are split.

> As the URLs above, although split, can be easily copy and pasted into the 
> address bar on a browser, it is not essential in this case to use shorteners, 
> hence I haven't used them.
> 

I have a hard time copying and pasting like that due to a problem with my hand
and depending on that is a huge accessibility and usability problem.

> I could change the line length on my email client, I suppose (at this moment
> I don't know what option that would be, but I am sure it is there somewhere), 
> but that would make some lines of text unreadably long; so I prefer not to 
> touch that and leave the default.
> 

a decent email client (such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail which i
happen to use) should not split URLs into several parts even if they exceed the
message width. If it does, then it is a bug.

> There are trade-offs for every decision, as you can see, and I hope you will 
> excuse me for using the ones I have chosen, and still help us out with the 
> promotion of KDE news.
> 

I already retweeted the twitter link, but won't bother with the split urls.



Regards,

Shlomi


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Re: KDE receives 200,000 USD-donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-02-22 Thread Shlomi Fish 
Hi Paul,

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 12:41:12 +0100
Paul Brown  wrote:

> On Thursday, 22 February 2018 12:24:58 CET Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi Paul,  
> 
> Hello again Shlomi,
> 
> > please reply to list - not to me in private.  
> 
> I received your message as a private message, so I answered in kind.
> 

it was not a private message as it was sent to both you and the list.

> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > some of these links are split into two lines. Please fix it in the
> > > > future
> > > > and/or use a url shortener.  
> > > 
> > > Hello Shlomi,
> > > 
> > > How are you today? I hope you are well.  
> > 
> > quite.
> >   
> > > Re. Your message: using URL shorteners is probably a bad idea, for several
> > > reasons: They force users to move through middlemen they don't
> > > necessarily know about, leading to subreptitious tracking; make the web
> > > slower; and can direct users to fake sites. They should be used only when
> > > strictly necessary.
> > > 
> > > This means one should try and avoid them as much as possible and only use
> > > them when there is no other choice,for example, when there is a very
> > > little
> > > space for characters and a full URL would take up all the space.  
> > 
> > They can easily be included in addition to the full URLs, which are split.  
> 
> Sure. Unfortunately, I usually am on a tight schedule as it is. If you would 
> like to spend time passing all the links we produce through a shortener, join 
> the promo group and you can get cracking! It is a collaborative effort.
> 

I can try but note that it may be possible to automate that - see
http://automatetheboringstuff.com/ .

> > > As the URLs above, although split, can be easily copy and pasted into the
> > > address bar on a browser, it is not essential in this case to use
> > > shorteners, hence I haven't used them.  
> > 
> > I have a hard time copying and pasting like that due to a problem with my
> > hand and depending on that is a huge accessibility and usability problem.  
> 
> Maybe talk to the Kmail developers about that. I am not one of them.
> 
> > > I could change the line length on my email client, I suppose (at this
> > > moment I don't know what option that would be, but I am sure it is there
> > > somewhere), but that would make some lines of text unreadably long; so I
> > > prefer not to touch that and leave the default.  
> > 
> > a decent email client (such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail
> > which i happen to use) should not split URLs into several parts even if
> > they exceed the message width. If it does, then it is a bug.  
> 
> Then you should submit a bug report to the Kmail developers. I am not one of 
> them.
> 

it was already reported - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381403 .

> > > There are trade-offs for every decision, as you can see, and I hope you
> > > will excuse me for using the ones I have chosen, and still help us out
> > > with the promotion of KDE news.  
> > 
> > I already retweeted the twitter link, but won't bother with the split
> > urls.  
> 
> That's much appreciated.
> 

thanks!

> Cheers
> 
> Paul



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Re: KDE receives 200,000 USD-donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-02-22 Thread Paul Brown 
On Thursday, 22 February 2018 12:24:58 CET Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi Paul,

Hello again Shlomi,

> please reply to list - not to me in private.

I received your message as a private message, so I answered in kind.

> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > 
> > > some of these links are split into two lines. Please fix it in the
> > > future
> > > and/or use a url shortener.
> > 
> > Hello Shlomi,
> > 
> > How are you today? I hope you are well.
> 
> quite.
> 
> > Re. Your message: using URL shorteners is probably a bad idea, for several
> > reasons: They force users to move through middlemen they don't
> > necessarily know about, leading to subreptitious tracking; make the web
> > slower; and can direct users to fake sites. They should be used only when
> > strictly necessary.
> > 
> > This means one should try and avoid them as much as possible and only use
> > them when there is no other choice,for example, when there is a very
> > little
> > space for characters and a full URL would take up all the space.
> 
> They can easily be included in addition to the full URLs, which are split.

Sure. Unfortunately, I usually am on a tight schedule as it is. If you would 
like to spend time passing all the links we produce through a shortener, join 
the promo group and you can get cracking! It is a collaborative effort.

> > As the URLs above, although split, can be easily copy and pasted into the
> > address bar on a browser, it is not essential in this case to use
> > shorteners, hence I haven't used them.
> 
> I have a hard time copying and pasting like that due to a problem with my
> hand and depending on that is a huge accessibility and usability problem.

Maybe talk to the Kmail developers about that. I am not one of them.

> > I could change the line length on my email client, I suppose (at this
> > moment I don't know what option that would be, but I am sure it is there
> > somewhere), but that would make some lines of text unreadably long; so I
> > prefer not to touch that and leave the default.
> 
> a decent email client (such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail
> which i happen to use) should not split URLs into several parts even if
> they exceed the message width. If it does, then it is a bug.

Then you should submit a bug report to the Kmail developers. I am not one of 
them.

> > There are trade-offs for every decision, as you can see, and I hope you
> > will excuse me for using the ones I have chosen, and still help us out
> > with the promotion of KDE news.
> 
> I already retweeted the twitter link, but won't bother with the split urls.

That's much appreciated.

Cheers

Paul
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Re: KDE receives 200,000 USD-donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-02-22 Thread Shlomi Fish 
Hi all!

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:36:03 +0100
Paul Brown  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> As you probably know by now, KDE received an incredibly generous donation of 
> 200K USD from the Pineapple Fund. We have made this public today.
> 
> You can find the dot article here:
> 
> https://dot.kde.org/2018/02/19/kde-receives-20-usd-donation-pineapple-fund
> 
> Social Media links are here:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/kde/posts/10155596759068918
> 
> https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/965514290705952768
> 
> https://mastodon.technology/@kde/99551258536879685
> 
> https://plus.google.com/b/105126786256705328374/+KdeOrg/posts/Qc3AbPegNCE
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6371281068858966016
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/7ylhg0/
> kde_received_20_from_the_pineapple_fund/
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7ylhd3/
> kde_received_20_from_the_pineapple_fund/
> 

some of these links are split into two lines. Please fix it in the future
and/or use a url shortener.

Regards,

Shlomi

> Please share, upvote, re-t[weet|oot], spread to other communities as you see 
> fit.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Paul
> 
> P.S.: If any journalists would like to ask us about this, how this came about 
> and what we intend to do with the money, Lydia is the person you should
> direct them to.



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Re: KDE receives 200,000 USD-donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-02-19 Thread victorhck 
El 19/02/18 a las 10:36, Paul Brown escribió:
> Hello,
> 
> As you probably know by now, KDE received an incredibly generous donation of 
> 200K USD from the Pineapple Fund. We have made this public today.
> 
> You can find the dot article here:
> 
> https://dot.kde.org/2018/02/19/kde-receives-20-usd-donation-pineapple-fund
> 

Great news!! Amazing gift from Pineapple Fund!! O_o

I made a spanish translation and published in my little blog:
https://victorhckinthefreeworld.com/2018/02/19/kde-recibe-una-donacion-de-200-000-dolares/

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mastodon!

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Re: KDE receives 200,000 USD-donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-02-19 Thread Clemens Toennies 
Absolutely awesome!

Thanks to the KDE community in general and those who made this happen.

Greetings, Clemens.
On Feb 19, 2018 10:36, "Paul Brown"  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As you probably know by now, KDE received an incredibly generous donation
> of
> 200K USD from the Pineapple Fund. We have made this public today.
>
> You can find the dot article here:
>
> https://dot.kde.org/2018/02/19/kde-receives-20-usd-
> donation-pineapple-fund
>
> Social Media links are here:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/kde/posts/10155596759068918
>
> https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/965514290705952768
>
> https://mastodon.technology/@kde/99551258536879685
>
> https://plus.google.com/b/105126786256705328374/+KdeOrg/posts/Qc3AbPegNCE
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6371281068858966016
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/7ylhg0/
> kde_received_20_from_the_pineapple_fund/
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7ylhd3/
> kde_received_20_from_the_pineapple_fund/
>
> Please share, upvote, re-t[weet|oot], spread to other communities as you
> see
> fit.
>
> Thank you
>
> Paul
>
> P.S.: If any journalists would like to ask us about this, how this came
> about
> and what we intend to do with the money, Lydia is the person you should
> direct
> them to.
> --
> Promotion & Communication
>
> www: http://kde.org
> Mastodon: https://mastodon.technology/@kde
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/kdecommunity
>
>