Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Friday 24 February 2012 02:15:54 Sven Burmeister wrote: Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2012, 19:00:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: Personally I'm not sure whether the MeeGo bugzilla can be compared to the KDE one (technical

Re: Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 21:03:42 Ben Cooksley wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Friday 24 February 2012 02:15:54 Sven Burmeister wrote: Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2012, 19:00:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: Personally I'm not sure whether the

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:32:10 Andras Mantia wrote: On Friday, February 24, 2012 06:10:23 PM Thomas Lübking wrote: Am 24.02.2012, 09:44 Uhr, schrieb Andras Mantia aman...@kde.org: Bugzilla is not a to-do list, it is for what else... a bug (and wishlist) reporting tool for users.

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:11:12 Sven Burmeister wrote: Am Freitag, 24. Februar 2012, 08:06:41 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: My claim is that most of that user support only ends-up in bugzilla because people did not get help somewhere else, e.g. because only developers are familiar enough

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 19:27:09 Sven Burmeister wrote: yes, of course, we have to help the users. But they need to get a tool for user support, not a tool for developer communication. We need a first-level- support to help the users. Developers are the third-level-support. I doubt

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 20:31:46 Andras Mantia wrote: On Friday, February 24, 2012 06:51:11 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: - first level support issues are not opened on the bug tracker but in a user support management system - e.g. forums.kde.org. Only if the supporters figure out that

Re: Re: bugzilla situation

2012-02-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 24 February 2012 02:15:54 Sven Burmeister wrote: Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2012, 19:00:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: Personally I'm not sure whether the MeeGo bugzilla can be compared to the KDE one (technical oriented vs. user oriented). From my personal experience (KWin bugtracker