Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings

2011-07-24 Thread Ambroz Bizjak
Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote: Just a small suggestion on how i think this should be fixed (since 2 desktop files for one app seems just ugly to me). Perhaps it's better to extend the desktop file specification: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html And i

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi; 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org: Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System Settings would not be installed. You are only likely to get both System Settings pre-installed if your

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Ben Cooksley
2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com: hi; 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org: Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System Settings would not be installed. You are only likely to get

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Sunday 24 July 2011, Ben Cooksley wrote: 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com: hi; 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org: Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System Settings

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings

2011-07-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
At Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:43:16 +0200, Lorenz Quack wrote: So how can this be resolved? … TLDR: For this release: GNOME back off For the next release: KDE and GNOME unify your settings infrastructure and pick non-generic names for your apps. Why can’t the Gnome System Settings simply be shown

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 21.00 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto: 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com: hi; 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org: Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed,

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 22.37 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto: On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 21.00 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto: 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com: hi; 2011/7/24

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Sunday 24 July 2011 17:55:54 Giovanni Campagna wrote: Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 22.37 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto: Wrong, wrong and wrong. Phonon backend cannot be configured without System Settings. And that's a feature, I suppose. As a GNOME user, I want GStreamer at all times

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 24/07/2011 12:55, Giovanni Campagna a écrit : Which is a KDE bug. You should use GNOME shortcuts when possible. I mean, Gtk has emacs and Mac OS modes for keybindings, I doubt Qt hasn't something similar. It is true that you can change KDE theme without changing the GTK one, but why

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le 24 juil. 2011 14:35, Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org a écrit : Le 24/07/2011 12:55, Giovanni Campagna a écrit : Which is a KDE bug. You should use GNOME shortcuts when possible. I mean, Gtk has emacs and Mac OS modes for keybindings, I doubt Qt hasn't something similar. It is true that

Re: Go Daddy root certificates

2011-07-24 Thread Gary Greene
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Martin Koller wrote: Hi, can anyone answer the case https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277319 , please ? -- Best regards/Schöne Grüße Martin A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q: Why is top posting bad? () ascii ribbon

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Sunday 24 July 2011 Ben Cooksley wrote: Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them, they're insular and only care for themselves. I don't want to let a statement like this stand as it is. There are a

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread marcel partap
Still, we should treat each other with respect. [...] being angry doesn't solve problems, especially not when communication about a common solution is required. [...] Not everything can be done easily, but we should look for the right solutions and persue them. There is no established mechanism

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-24 Thread marcel partap
KDE 4.7 will probably be shipped by distributions alongside GNOME 3.0. A short term solution is required at the bare minimum to fix that - which can be done as I noted. Where's the problem? Have the release tarballs already and irrevocably been forged and fed into some unstoppable mechanism?

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings

2011-07-24 Thread Alex Fiestas
The only point that I would like to add is that the 'System' part of System Settings should be dropped since the settings listed there are not for the system but for the DE('s). Well it depends, Networking Bluetooth, Service startup are not DE('s) stuff