Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2014/1/21 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org: On Monday 20 January 2014 14:40:17 Thiago Macieira wrote: See subject. We're trying to decide whether we should enable journald by default on Linux distributions that carry it. If we do, it means any application that is not launched from a terminal

Re: Moving KFIleMetadata into KDE SC

2014-01-21 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Monday 20 January 2014 22:37:12 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Please have a look at the const-ness of the methods, there's lots of geters that are non const. Fixed -- Vishesh Handa

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Jaime
2014/1/21 Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in On Tuesday 21 January 2014 02:24:01 Francesco R. wrote: just always use an additional database, xattrs are not the way to go. Managing xattrs require a conscious user, many programs by default don't even copy xattrs. Plus, with extended

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Jansen
On Monday 20 January 2014 14:40:17 Thiago Macieira wrote: See subject. We're trying to decide whether we should enable journald by default on Linux distributions that carry it. If we do, it means any application that is not launched from a terminal would automatically write to journald

Re: Splitting kde-workspace and kde-runtime proposal

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:03:57 Bhushan Shah wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Àlex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: In the plasma sprint we have done a session to plan what we are going to do with kde-workspace/kde-runtime repositories, here is the proposal we came with.

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 12:37:14 Jaime wrote: 2014/1/21 Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in On Tuesday 21 January 2014 02:24:01 Francesco R. wrote: just always use an additional database, xattrs are not the way to go. Managing xattrs require a conscious user, many programs by default don't

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 13:06:40 viv...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/21/14 11:50, Vishesh Handa wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2014 02:24:01 Francesco R. wrote: just always use an additional database, xattrs are not the way to go. Managing xattrs require a conscious user, many programs by

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Todd
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2014 02:24:01 Francesco R. wrote: just always use an additional database, xattrs are not the way to go. Managing xattrs require a conscious user, many programs by default don't even copy xattrs.

Re: Splitting kde-workspace and kde-runtime proposal

2014-01-21 Thread Antonis Tsiapaliokas
1) Create two different groups named plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop like frameworks 2) Split out every component into individual repos 3) Assign repos to the related group. Advantages: 1) Easy to assign maintainer to individual component. 2) If we split only some repos, we can not

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Francesco R.
Il 20/01/2014 23:40, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: See subject. We're trying to decide whether we should enable journald by default on Linux distributions that carry it. If we do, it means any application that is not launched from a terminal would automatically write to journald instead.

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Francesco R.
Il 21/01/2014 02:10, Vishesh Handa ha scritto: On Saturday 18 January 2014 12:53:38 Jonathan Marten wrote: Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in writes: http://community.kde.org/Baloo Thanks for producing that useful page, and of course for all your past and current work on Nepomuk and Baloo. There

Re: Moving Baloo and Baloo-widgets into KDE SC

2014-01-21 Thread Todd
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Mario Fux KDE ML kde...@unormal.orgwrote: Am Donnerstag, 09. Januar 2014, 23.26:01 schrieb Àlex Fiestas: Morning Alex On Thursday 09 January 2014 21:52:52 Christoph Feck wrote: But if the above scenario does not work, we should probably not introduce

Re: Splitting kde-workspace and kde-runtime proposal

2014-01-21 Thread Bhushan Shah
Hello! On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Àlex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: In the plasma sprint we have done a session to plan what we are going to do with kde-workspace/kde-runtime repositories, here is the proposal we came with. We are going to create 2 new repos called plasma-desktop

Re: Splitting kde-workspace and kde-runtime proposal

2014-01-21 Thread Bhushan Shah
Hello! On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Antonis Tsiapaliokas kok...@gmail.com wrote: I think that splitting each individual component to its own repo might be a bit confusing. Because if we don't have two groups (plasma-desktop and plasma- workspace), then we will not be able to provide

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread viv...@gmail.com
On 01/21/14 11:50, Vishesh Handa wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2014 02:24:01 Francesco R. wrote: just always use an additional database, xattrs are not the way to go. Managing xattrs require a conscious user, many programs by default don't even copy xattrs. I disagree. It'll be easier to

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/ --- (Updated Jan. 21, 2014, 12:35 p.m.) Review request for kde-workspace and

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/ --- (Updated Jan. 21, 2014, 12:48 p.m.) Review request for kde-workspace and

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Jan. 17, 2014, 5:36 p.m., Thomas Lübking wrote: there's no diff - should there be? patch up now, third time lucky - Jonathan --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Monday, January 20, 2014 14:40:17 Thiago Macieira wrote: See subject. We're trying to decide whether we should enable journald by default on Linux distributions that carry it. If we do, it means any application that is not launched from a terminal would automatically write to journald

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Monday 20 January 2014 14:40:17 Thiago Macieira wrote: See subject. We're trying to decide whether we should enable journald by default on Linux distributions that carry it. If we do, it means any application that is not launched from a terminal would automatically write to journald

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/#review47868 --- I guess it's obvious from the matching review request for

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Jan. 21, 2014, 1:16 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote: I guess it's obvious from the matching review request for kgloballacel: I consider copying the files to every user as the wrong solution. In Qt terms I would give it a -2. esp. since that means to keep them sync'd all the time...

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Dienstag, 21. Januar 2014 13:37:29 CEST, viv...@gmail.com wrote: And windows? HPFS/NTFS has xattr support (through alternative data streams) and WINNT supports handling xattr on FAT as well. The problem about xattr is rather that 99% of all ext3/4 users will atm get setfattr:

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Dienstag, 21. Januar 2014 13:55:15 CEST, Sebastian Kügler wrote: One thing that may concern me is how to clean the system from debugging messages then. Sometimes applications go rogue on qDebug() What - from multiple bug reports and personal observation - can make journald going rogue

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Hrvoje Senjan
On Jan. 21, 2014, 1:16 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote: I guess it's obvious from the matching review request for kgloballacel: I consider copying the files to every user as the wrong solution. In Qt terms I would give it a -2. Thomas Lübking wrote: esp. since that means to keep them

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/ --- (Updated Jan. 21, 2014, 2:51 p.m.) Review request for kde-workspace and

Re: Moving Baloo and Baloo-widgets into KDE SC

2014-01-21 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 12:34:52 Todd wrote: From what I read on the baloo page, it seems likes baloo accesses various databases. If that is the case, instead of a bridge that copies metadata back and forth like in nepomuk, would it be possible for programs like Digikam and Amarok to

Re: Splitting kde-workspace and kde-runtime proposal

2014-01-21 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 13:04:22 Sebastian Kügler wrote: 1) Create two different groups named plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop like frameworks How is this granularity useful? To me, it sounds like way too much, too hard to move code around within the same domain, for example. We

Re: Moving Baloo forward

2014-01-21 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 12:32:29 Todd wrote: Would it be possible to store the metadata inside files that support it (like images or music files) and use xattrs only for files that don't have their own internal metadata format? Well, anything is possible. Someone would just need to

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/#review47882 --- much better! Thanks for working on it. - Martin Gräßlin On

KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w4

2014-01-21 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello everyone, This is the minutes of the Week 3 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on #kde-devel at 4pm Paris time. Were present: afiestas, agateau, alexmerry, arichardson, dfaure, mgraesslin, Riddell, tosky and myself. Announcement: * Come on people, we're still short on maintainers!

Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w4

2014-01-21 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Tuesday 21 of January 2014 16:42:42 Kevin Ottens wrote: * tosky found out that the validity of the qtoptions and kdeoptions man pages is in need of review; * he's also working with the doc team toward a switch to docbook 4.2; Quick patch: to docbook 4.5 (our documentation is based on 4.2

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Thiago Macieira
On terça-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2014 02:15:59, Francesco R. wrote: Il 20/01/2014 23:40, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: See subject. We're trying to decide whether we should enable journald by default on Linux distributions that carry it. If we do, it means any application that is not launched

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2014/1/21 Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org: On terça-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2014 13:55:15, Sebastian Kügler wrote: One thing that may concern me is how to clean the system from debugging messages then. Sometimes applications go rogue on qDebug() (recent example the message from QPainter in Qt5,

Review Request 115183: KRunner: reset history when showing (to be consistent with shells)

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Marten
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115183/ --- Review request for kde-workspace. Bugs: 314690

Re: Qt 5.3 to log all debug/warning/error messages to journald on systemd systems

2014-01-21 Thread Thiago Macieira
On terça-feira, 21 de janeiro de 2014 13:55:15, Sebastian Kügler wrote: One thing that may concern me is how to clean the system from debugging messages then. Sometimes applications go rogue on qDebug() (recent example the message from QPainter in Qt5, which has just been fixed), so the

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/ --- (Updated Jan. 21, 2014, 4:25 p.m.) Status -- This change has been

Re: Review Request 115079: don't install dbus interface files in kglobalaccel

2014-01-21 Thread Commit Hook
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115079/#review47895 --- This review has been submitted with commit

Review Request 115188: rename dbus interface file for kjobview

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115188/ --- Review request for kde-workspace. Repository: kde-workspace

Review Request 115191: use renamed dbus interface files for kstatusnotifier

2014-01-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115191/ --- Review request for kde-workspace and Martin Klapetek. Repository:

Re: Moving KFIleMetadata into KDE SC

2014-01-21 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 21 de gener de 2014, a les 11:56:11, Vishesh Handa va escriure: On Monday 20 January 2014 22:37:12 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Please have a look at the const-ness of the methods, there's lots of geters that are non const. Fixed Do you think virtual QStringList mimetypes() = 0;

Re: Moving KFIleMetadata into KDE SC

2014-01-21 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 21 de gener de 2014, a les 11:56:33, Vishesh Handa va escriure: On Monday 20 January 2014 22:38:52 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Also make sure all the classes have a d-pointer in case they need to be expanded in the future you can keep ABI. Fixed. Maybe even add one to

Re: Moving KFIleMetadata into KDE SC (documentation and ExtractionResult)

2014-01-21 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Divendres, 17 de gener de 2014, a les 18:03:31, Vishesh Handa va escriure: Hey guys I should have posted this with the Baloo thread, but since I did not - WIth KDE SC 4.10, Nepomuk dropped support for Strigi and implemented their own indexing library. This code was part of nepomuk-core.