Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Stas Verberkt
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 14:22:54 Sune Vuorela wrote: There's a few major points which I think if can be answered would help clarify what that would look like: Indeed, this discussion is going places, but does not really come up with answers. As someone who has no understanding of colour

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 14.03.12, 17:04 +0100 schrieb Matthias Klumpp: 2012/3/14 Kai-Uwe Behrmann k...@gmx.de: Am 14.03.12, 15:54 +0100 schrieb Matthias Klumpp: [...] I also want to point you to this comparison colord against Oryanos: = http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/faq.html#oyranos Matthias, you

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 14.03.12, 14:29 -0700 schrieb Daniel Nicoletti: 2012/3/14 Kai-Uwe Behrmann k...@gmx.de: It is indeed relevant because now we have a central place to configure it. And users need to manage and error check everything themself. I would not use that in a professional environment, where time

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 14.03.12, 20:43 -0700 schrieb Daniel Nicoletti: On the other hand if there are things that a mere 'power user' might  find useful (that colord will not be supporting due to scope) then it might make sense to have extra U/I if Oyranos is available. Perhaps multi-monitor CMS would fit the

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 14.03.12, 20:39 -0700 schrieb Daniel Nicoletti: Like I also help with Wicd support in KDE, Kopete, and other areas of interests for KDE users. I do not use Wicd, but I help KDE users of Wicd even before I was the Network Management maintainer. By the way, I am not driven by FDO interests.

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Lamarque V. Souza
Em Thursday 15 March 2012, Daniel Nicoletti escreveu: Like I also help with Wicd support in KDE, Kopete, and other areas of interests for KDE users. I do not use Wicd, but I help KDE users of Wicd even before I was the Network Management maintainer. By the way, I am not driven by FDO

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Daniel Nicoletti
So far colour conversion happens on the end machine. That is the one, which is connected to the device. That fits to what Michael Sweet says about early versus late colour binding, suggesting that early colour binding can cause gigabytes of traffic, while late colour bind will have no

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 15.03.12, 08:06 -0300 schrieb Lamarque V. Souza: Maybe, that is something that needs to be discussed with oyranos' community. By what I read in this thread elektra is still maintained and is optional, not sure about fltk. FLTK is optional. The core library is toolkit independent and

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 15.03.12, 07:34 +0100 schrieb Stas Verberkt: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 14:22:54 Sune Vuorela wrote: There's a few major points which I think if can be answered would help clarify what that would look like: Indeed, this discussion is going places, but does not really come up with answers.

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 14.03.12, 14:29 -0700 schrieb Daniel Nicoletti: If CUPS is locally installed this means it can just send the job color corrected! Am 15.03.12, 04:11 -0700 schrieb Daniel Nicoletti: So far colour conversion happens on the end machine. That is the one, which is connected to the device.

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Thomas Zander
On Wednesday 14 March 2012 20.31.30 Lamarque V. Souza wrote: I said I wanted the most versatile, which means one that satisfies my needs and somebody else's needs. The requirement for 'most versatile' doesn't follow in that sentence. You are making a logic error, or at least taking

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 15.03.12, 13:09 +0100 schrieb Thomas Zander: Basic design of system color management is that each input (scanner etc) and each output (monitor, printer) has to have assigned a personal color profile. That is not as simple as that. You must include the driver, the colour related driver

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Lamarque V. Souza
Em Thursday 15 March 2012, Thomas Zander escreveu: On Wednesday 14 March 2012 20.31.30 Lamarque V. Souza wrote: I said I wanted the most versatile, which means one that satisfies my needs and somebody else's needs. The requirement for 'most versatile' doesn't follow

Re: Bugzilla upgrade.

2012-03-15 Thread David Jarvie
On Wed, March 14, 2012 9:41 pm, Burkhard Lück wrote: And to have the Additional Comments field above the BR and all comments is like tofu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting) There is now a preference setting which lets you choose whether to display the Additional Comments

Re: Bugzilla upgrade.

2012-03-15 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Thursday 15 March 2012 Mar, David Jarvie wrote: On Wed, March 14, 2012 9:41 pm, Burkhard Lück wrote: And to have the Additional Comments field above the BR and all comments is like tofu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting) There is now a preference setting which lets

Re: Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Alex Fiestas
Don't know the best place to reply, so I guess that this is as good as any. We don't need to choose right now, colord-kde just started and Oyranos is just starting to make noise thanks to KColorManager, where is the hurry to choose a side? it seems to me that some people are using this fight to

Re: Review Request: Remember current desktop when changing activity

2012-03-15 Thread makis marimpis
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104261/ --- (Updated March 15, 2012, 6:13 p.m.) Review request for KDE Runtime.

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 15 March 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: ... In my humble opinion we should just wait and see what of them last longer and healthier. +1 Alex

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2012/3/15 Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.org: On Thursday 15 March 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: ... In my humble opinion we should just wait and see what of them last longer and healthier. +1 I agree with that too :) Maybe wait a few months and then check the new situation. (or rediscuss the

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 15.03.12, 09:39 -0300 schrieb Daniel Nicoletti: 2012/3/15 Kai-Uwe Behrmann k...@gmx.de: ... and do caching, lookup, perhaps wrapping of CMMs and so one. Would it not be nice to share that? Really caching of so small files? If you cache small files you have an unneeded overhead at best and a

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Michael Pyne
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 20:43:59 Daniel Nicoletti wrote: On the other hand if there are things that a mere 'power user' might find useful (that colord will not be supporting due to scope) then it might make sense to have extra U/I if Oyranos is available. Perhaps multi-monitor

kdegames looking for a QML-experienced mentor

2012-03-15 Thread Stefan Majewsky
Hi, on kde-games-devel, we got a lot of interest in a GSoC 2012 idea that's about porting a game to QML/Quick1. We want this on one hand as a template for further QML-based games, but on the other hand, it shall most importantly reveal where we have to adjust libkdegames towards more

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Michael Pyne
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:11:34 Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: Am 14.03.12, 22:15 -0400 schrieb Michael Pyne: The problem is that the software is /like/ KDE but doesn't use any KDE technologies. To best utilize a given subsystem we would typically use at least a light abstraction layer, using

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

2012-03-15 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Michael Pyne mp...@kde.org schrieb: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 20:43:59 Daniel Nicoletti wrote: On the other hand if there are things that a mere 'power user' might find useful (that colord will not be supporting due to scope) then it might make sense to have extra U/I if Oyranos