Re: Review Request 122249: libksysguard: add Kill Window to End Process button and show correct keyboard shortcut

2015-04-20 Thread Gregor Mi
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122249/ --- (Updated April 20, 2015, 10:24 p.m.) Review request for KDE Base Apps,

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2015-04-20 23:41 GMT+02:00 Thomas Lübking thomas.luebk...@gmail.com: On Montag, 20. April 2015 23:02:34 CEST, Sune Vuorela wrote: Let's just try to follow that thru. A new QuigleyImageView pulls in a new Qt. The newer Qt breaks somehow Plasma, because relying on internals. Then a newer

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 20. April 2015 22:31:24 CEST, Jeremy Whiting wrote: Even simple applications may want to use a webview for stuff. Kanagram at one point had a QtWebkit Web view just to show the wikipedia entry of the current word. Ouch, sounds like giant overhead =) Shouldn't the basic html subset

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Jeremy Whiting
Even simple applications may want to use a webview for stuff. Kanagram at one point had a QtWebkit Web view just to show the wikipedia entry of the current word. It was disabled because QtWebKit at the time was crashing. I'd like to use something light and secure, but am not sure what options we

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday, April 20, 2015 22:54:26 Thomas Lübking wrote: On Montag, 20. April 2015 22:31:24 CEST, Jeremy Whiting wrote: Even simple applications may want to use a webview for stuff. Kanagram at one point had a QtWebkit Web view just to show the wikipedia entry of the current word. Ouch,

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Monday 20 April 2015, Vadim Zhukov wrote: 2015-04-20 19:28 GMT+03:00 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez perezme...@gmail.com: Hi everyone! I'm one of Debian's Qt maintainers and I'm writing here due to the problem that QtWebEngine poses for us distros (in this case, at least Debian and

Re: Review Request 122249: libksysguard: add Kill Window to End Process button and show correct keyboard shortcut

2015-04-20 Thread Gregor Mi
On April 20, 2015, 10:36 p.m., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: What would likely be confusing is that the two button modes have different interaction flows: The End Process mode requires to first select a process and then press the button to work, whereas the Kill specific window mode

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-04-20, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: Just state that there's no such long maintaince time for that package o= r just=20 install the newer version of Qt. And yes again that probably goes again= st your=20 rules, but it's your rules, so you can just improve them for everyone's=

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Jeremy Whiting
Yeah, that's probably a better idea. is there a QML ui for QTextview? or maybe some other QML component that renders html. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Thomas Lübking thomas.luebk...@gmail.com wrote: On Montag, 20. April 2015 22:31:24 CEST, Jeremy Whiting wrote: Even simple applications

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Milian Wolff
On Monday 20 April 2015 13:28:59 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Hi everyone! I'm one of Debian's Qt maintainers and I'm writing here due to the problem that QtWebEngine poses for us distros (in this case, at least Debian and Fedora). I know that kdepim seems to depend on it now.

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 20. April 2015 23:00:44 CEST, Jeremy Whiting wrote: Yeah, that's probably a better idea. is there a QML ui for QTextview? or maybe some other QML component that renders html. The Text item defaults textFormat to Text.AutoText - you can enforce Text.RichText or rely on the detection

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 20. April 2015 23:11:49 CEST, Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2015 22:54:26 Thomas Lübking wrote: On Montag, 20. April 2015 22:31:24 CEST, Jeremy Whiting wrote: Even simple applications may want to use a webview for stuff. Kanagram at one point had a QtWebkit Web view

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 20. April 2015 23:02:34 CEST, Sune Vuorela wrote: Let's just try to follow that thru. A new QuigleyImageView pulls in a new Qt. The newer Qt breaks somehow Plasma, because relying on internals. Then a newer Plasma is pulled in. THat ... You can apply that on really *anything* -

Re: Review Request 117345: Fix crash in KIO due to exposing inconsistent views of internal data.

2015-04-20 Thread Simeon Bird
On April 20, 2015, 7:08 a.m., David Faure wrote: Should be committed to kdelibs4 indeed. Preferrably with the unittest improvements that you wrote for KF5. Sorry for the delay before I reviewed it. No problem - the bug's been there for several years so a few more months won't hurt

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 20. April 2015 22:16:34 CEST, Luigi Toscano wrote: That said, let's talk for a moment on real use cases: how many applications can need an *hard* dependency on the beast, apart from mail apps? Everybody. Nobody. Depends. The API doesn't look quite exchangeable w/ QWebKit, so one

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
Milian Wolff ha scritto: I'm not a KDE PIM maintainer, but with my KDevelop hat on (that uses a web view to display documentation pages, currently QtWebKit), kio_man uses khtml (why don't you use it)? But anyway, also khtml is deprecated. On the other side, the html for manpages is pretty

Re: Review Request 122249: libksysguard: add Kill Window to End Process button and show correct keyboard shortcut

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On April 20, 2015, 10:36 p.m., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: What would likely be confusing is that the two button modes have different interaction flows: The End Process mode requires to first select a process and then press the button to work, whereas the Kill specific window mode

Re: Review Request 122249: libksysguard: add Kill Window to End Process button and show correct keyboard shortcut

2015-04-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122249/#review79262 --- What would likely be confusing is that the two button modes

Re: Review Request 117345: Fix crash in KIO due to exposing inconsistent views of internal data.

2015-04-20 Thread Simeon Bird
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117345/ --- (Updated April 21, 2015, 2:29 a.m.) Review request for kdelibs.

Re: Review Request 117345: Fix crash in KIO due to exposing inconsistent views of internal data.

2015-04-20 Thread Simeon Bird
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117345/ --- (Updated April 21, 2015, 2:30 a.m.) Status -- This change has been

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Vadim Zhukov
2015-04-20 19:28 GMT+03:00 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez perezme...@gmail.com: Hi everyone! I'm one of Debian's Qt maintainers and I'm writing here due to the problem that QtWebEngine poses for us distros (in this case, at least Debian and Fedora). I know that kdepim seems to depend on it

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
Albert Astals Cid ha scritto: El Dilluns, 20 d'abril de 2015, a les 15:52:12, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer va escriure: I could also say that Fedora+Debian+Debian derivatives (Ubuntu is mostly in the same position as us) is also a large userbase for KDE to loose. But *it's not

Review Request 123437: FinKexiv2: Use FindPkgConfig instead of UsePkgConfig

2015-04-20 Thread Heiko Becker
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123437/ --- Review request for kdelibs. Repository: kdelibs Description ---

Re: Review Request 117345: Fix crash in KIO due to exposing inconsistent views of internal data.

2015-04-20 Thread David Faure
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117345/#review79240 --- Should be committed to kdelibs4 indeed. Preferrably with the

Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi everyone! I'm one of Debian's Qt maintainers and I'm writing here due to the problem that QtWebEngine poses for us distros (in this case, at least Debian and Fedora). I know that kdepim seems to depend on it now. Sadly QtWebEngine it's quite a hard (very hard) piece of software to package.

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Monday 20 April 2015 20:17:13 Albert Astals Cid wrote: [snip] IMHO the duty of a distro is providing software to their users to use, if the rules of the distro make providing software hard/impossible they need to be updated or these distros need to understand they will lose users to more

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread David Edmundson
Moreover we can't build debugging symbols on most archs due to the enormous amount of RAM+swap it involves in the linking process (more than 8GB last time I checked). This is at least the same as QtWebKit, but seems to be getting worse. gold linker seems to handle this a /lot/ better than

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 20 d'abril de 2015, a les 13:28:59, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer va escriure: Hi everyone! I'm one of Debian's Qt maintainers and I'm writing here due to the problem that QtWebEngine poses for us distros (in this case, at least Debian and Fedora). I know that kdepim seems

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-04-20, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: IMHO the duty of a distro is providing software to their users to use, = if the=20 rules of the distro make providing software hard/impossible they need t= o be=20 updated or these distros need to understand they will lose users to mor=

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Franz Fellner
Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dilluns, 20 d'abril de 2015, a les 13:28:59, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer va escriure: Hi everyone! I'm one of Debian's Qt maintainers and I'm writing here due to the problem that QtWebEngine poses for us distros (in this case, at least Debian and

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday, 20 April 2015 21:14:51 CEST, Sune Vuorela wrote: And Red Hat is following Fedora. RHEL might not be a good example here because they are a rather a strange beast. RHEL has actually never shipped QtWebKit (!) and they also aren't shipping Qt5 so far. Cheers, Jan -- Trojitá, a

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday, 20 April 2015 21:12:44 CEST, Franz Fellner wrote: Is it really necessary to use a multiprocess web framework just to view HTML mails? I suppose that it is necessary to use an HTML content renderer which: - is still supported, - remains reasonably secure and up-to-date, - provides

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
Jan Kundrát ha scritto: On Monday, 20 April 2015 21:14:51 CEST, Sune Vuorela wrote: And Red Hat is following Fedora. RHEL might not be a good example here because they are a rather a strange beast. RHEL has actually never shipped QtWebKit (!) and they also aren't shipping Qt5 so far. Just

Re: Distros and QtWebEngine

2015-04-20 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 20 d'abril de 2015, a les 15:52:12, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer va escriure: On Monday 20 April 2015 20:17:13 Albert Astals Cid wrote: [snip] IMHO the duty of a distro is providing software to their users to use, if the rules of the distro make providing software