Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-27 Thread Andreas Hartmetz
On Donnerstag, 26. November 2015 08:55:19 CET Thomas Lübking wrote: > On Donnerstag, 26. November 2015 05:19:34 CEST, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > > What do you mean with "konsole asks"? Things like "You have > > multiple tabs open, are you sure you want to quit?" and "You > > have unsaved changes"? >

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-26 Thread Henry Miller
I'll object to no interaction after logout. More than once I've asked "why is logout taking so long, Jumped to a terminal (not always konsole) to look. Also, on Windows (at least) a running terminal application will block logout so I may need to kill the application while in a logout context.

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-25 Thread Andreas Hartmetz
That's fine with me. No action is much easier to implement than blocking of specific events ;) On Dienstag, 24. November 2015 02:31:30 CET Henry Miller wrote: > I'll object to no interaction after logout. More than once I've asked > "why is logout taking so long, Jumped to a terminal (not always

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Dienstag, 24. November 2015 02:02:46 CEST, Andreas Hartmetz wrote: - The session manager not "locking down" or better copying the list of clients *while* logging out. This would arguably only help buggy clients, but may still be a net positive. It would falsely restore clients that do

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-25 Thread Andreas Hartmetz
On Mittwoch, 25. November 2015 18:05:26 CET Thomas Lübking wrote: > On Dienstag, 24. November 2015 02:02:46 CEST, Andreas Hartmetz wrote: > > - The session manager not "locking down" or better copying the list > > of> > > clients *while* logging out. This would arguably only help buggy > >

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-25 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
> El 25 nov 2015, a las 14:05, Thomas Lübking > escribió: > >> On Dienstag, 24. November 2015 02:02:46 CEST, Andreas Hartmetz wrote: >> Why copy the list? Logout may be canceled, so it is valuable to keep >> the main client list updated for after logout

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Donnerstag, 26. November 2015 05:19:34 CEST, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: What do you mean with "konsole asks"? Things like "You have multiple tabs open, are you sure you want to quit?" and "You have unsaved changes"? Yes. If so, the scenario you describe is bad regardless of session

Re: Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-25 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Donnerstag, 26. November 2015 00:37:35 CEST, Andreas Hartmetz wrote: First, by copy I mean a temporary copy that is never merged back into the main list, it's kept around only to know which processes have already agreed to have their session saved and submitted the corresponding data.

Causes of session management problems in Plasma 5

2015-11-23 Thread Andreas Hartmetz
Hello, As apparently one of the last users of session management, because I shut down my computers about once every day, I run into problems about as often as I log into a session that is supposed to be restored. The number one problem is Konsole just not restoring. So I took some time to