Re: Configuration files transfer
On Saturday, 2014-04-12, 18:33:02, David Faure wrote:
On Saturday 12 April 2014 12:08:12 Kevin Krammer wrote:
On Saturday, 2014-04-12, 06:57:41, Ivan Čukić wrote:
+for (const auto testSubdir: { .kde, .kde5 }) {
Shouldn't that be .kde4?
Yes, already fixed in the next commit. :)
That block of code ($KDEHOME, otherwise ~/.kde, otherwise ~/.kde4)
sounds
like code that could be shared. Should we have a kde4ConfigHome() and
kde4DataHome() in, hmm, kcoreaddons?
That is why I asked the question in the first place. I'd say it would be
better to have this in a common place instead of every application
implementing it for itself.
Don't we have KStandardDirs in some porting framework?
Yes, but
1) it's in kdelibs4support, deprecated, i.e. apps are supposed to port AWAY
from it.
2) its logic has been ported away from KDEHOME and to
XDG_DATA_HOME/XDG_CONFIG_HOME etc. instead. So that a KF5-based app still
using KStandardDirs, would at least write into the right place.
So this isn't useful for migrating the KDE4 data.
I see.
Was just concered that we add KDE specific things to an otherwise independent
framework.
But I guess a single class can't be considered overhead :)
Plus it's kind of overkill since it handles many levels for many resources
while all we need is the local config and data dirs.
Right, hadn't though about that.
Cheers,
Kevin
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Re: Configuration files transfer
On Saturday, 2014-04-12, 06:57:41, Ivan Čukić wrote:
+for (const auto testSubdir: { .kde, .kde5 }) {
Shouldn't that be .kde4?
Yes, already fixed in the next commit. :)
That block of code ($KDEHOME, otherwise ~/.kde, otherwise ~/.kde4) sounds
like code that could be shared. Should we have a kde4ConfigHome() and
kde4DataHome() in, hmm, kcoreaddons?
That is why I asked the question in the first place. I'd say it would be
better to have this in a common place instead of every application
implementing it for itself.
Don't we have KStandardDirs in some porting framework?
Cheers,
Kevin
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KDE user support, developer mentoring
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Re: Configuration files transfer
On Saturday 12 April 2014 12:08:12 Kevin Krammer wrote:
On Saturday, 2014-04-12, 06:57:41, Ivan Čukić wrote:
+for (const auto testSubdir: { .kde, .kde5 }) {
Shouldn't that be .kde4?
Yes, already fixed in the next commit. :)
That block of code ($KDEHOME, otherwise ~/.kde, otherwise ~/.kde4)
sounds
like code that could be shared. Should we have a kde4ConfigHome() and
kde4DataHome() in, hmm, kcoreaddons?
That is why I asked the question in the first place. I'd say it would be
better to have this in a common place instead of every application
implementing it for itself.
Don't we have KStandardDirs in some porting framework?
Yes, but
1) it's in kdelibs4support, deprecated, i.e. apps are supposed to port AWAY
from it.
2) its logic has been ported away from KDEHOME and to
XDG_DATA_HOME/XDG_CONFIG_HOME etc. instead. So that a KF5-based app still
using KStandardDirs, would at least write into the right place.
So this isn't useful for migrating the KDE4 data.
Plus it's kind of overkill since it handles many levels for many resources
while all we need is the local config and data dirs.
My suggestion is this instead: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117511/
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Re: Configuration files transfer
On Sunday 06 April 2014 19:29:43 Ivan Čukić wrote:
On Friday 04 Apr 2014 21:36:11 Luca Beltrame wrote:
David Faure wrote:
Kevin Krammer had thoughts on the topic - iirc along the lines of every
application should take care of migrating the relevant data ? (cc'ed)
To give more context on this question: kactivities (KF5 based) can be used
with a 4.x software stack, however it uses the XDG configuration paths
Ok, I've pushed the manual transition of the configuration. If something
else is decided at a later stage, I'll replace the code.
I took a look at commit c8f9c50e7ec in kactivities.
+for (const auto testSubdir: { .kde, .kde5 }) {
Shouldn't that be .kde4?
That block of code ($KDEHOME, otherwise ~/.kde, otherwise ~/.kde4) sounds like
code that could be shared. Should we have a kde4ConfigHome() and
kde4DataHome() in, hmm, kcoreaddons?
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Working on KDE, in particular KDE Frameworks 5
Re: Configuration files transfer
+for (const auto testSubdir: { .kde, .kde5 }) {
Shouldn't that be .kde4?
Yes, already fixed in the next commit. :)
That block of code ($KDEHOME, otherwise ~/.kde, otherwise ~/.kde4) sounds
like code that could be shared. Should we have a kde4ConfigHome() and
kde4DataHome() in, hmm, kcoreaddons?
That is why I asked the question in the first place. I'd say it would be
better to have this in a common place instead of every application
implementing it for itself.
Cheerio
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Re: Configuration files transfer
On Friday, 2014-04-04, 18:21:31, David Faure wrote: On Friday 04 April 2014 09:42:34 Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi all, Since we have changed the location of our config files not to use .kde anymore, we will need some way of moving the old configuration files to their new locations. Should we use kconf_update for this, or is something else in the works? Kevin Krammer had thoughts on the topic - iirc along the lines of every application should take care of migrating the relevant data ? (cc'ed) I documented my look into this here (though more generalized, not just config): http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/StandardPathsMigration Application specific configs could be copied with an automated mechanism that has access to the porting aids framework and thus access to KStandardDirs. Shared configs are obivously tricky, might need some symlink approach. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Configuration files transfer
David Faure wrote: Kevin Krammer had thoughts on the topic - iirc along the lines of every application should take care of migrating the relevant data ? (cc'ed) To give more context on this question: kactivities (KF5 based) can be used with a 4.x software stack, however it uses the XDG configuration paths rather than KDEHOME, hence currently it breaks configurations where both workspaces are installed (because it looks for files elsewhere and so it doesn't pick the old config up). This is going to be a problem as distributions (I speak at least for openSUSE where I'm involved in) will offer the KF5-based workspace as an aside and not as main desktop. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
Re: Configuration files transfer
On Friday 04 Apr 2014 21:36:11 Luca Beltrame wrote: David Faure wrote: Kevin Krammer had thoughts on the topic - iirc along the lines of every application should take care of migrating the relevant data ? (cc'ed) To give more context on this question: kactivities (KF5 based) can be used with a 4.x software stack, however it uses the XDG configuration paths Ok, I've pushed the manual transition of the configuration. If something else is decided at a later stage, I'll replace the code. Ch! -- Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -- Isaac Asimov
Configuration files transfer
Hi all, Since we have changed the location of our config files not to use .kde anymore, we will need some way of moving the old configuration files to their new locations. Should we use kconf_update for this, or is something else in the works? Cheerio, Ivan -- Make your code readable. Pretend the next person who looks at your code is a psychopath and they know where you live. -- Philip Wadler
Re: Configuration files transfer
On Friday 04 April 2014 09:42:34 Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi all, Since we have changed the location of our config files not to use .kde anymore, we will need some way of moving the old configuration files to their new locations. Should we use kconf_update for this, or is something else in the works? Kevin Krammer had thoughts on the topic - iirc along the lines of every application should take care of migrating the relevant data ? (cc'ed) -- David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr Working on KDE, in particular KDE Frameworks 5
