Re: KDE + Firefox integration: restart?
First of all, thanks for stepping up and getting the discussion going again. One thing that strikes me as wrong though, considering the comments on the Firefox list, is that this is phrased as KDE Integration. Using the KDE file dialog would be KDE specific integration, using the user configured default application for a certain task is not. That would be Free Software Desktop integration, i.e. folling the mime-apps- spec: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-apps-spec/ Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe
Re: KDE + Firefox integration: restart?
On Tuesday, 2014-07-08, 08:49:24, grantksupp...@operamail.com wrote: Hi On Tue, Jul 8, 2014, at 08:43 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: First of all, thanks for stepping up and getting the discussion going again. One thing that strikes me as wrong though, considering the comments on the Firefox list, is that this is phrased as KDE Integration. Using the KDE file dialog would be KDE specific integration, using the user configured default application for a certain task is not. That would be Free Software Desktop integration, i.e. folling the mime-apps- spec: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-apps-spec/ I don't know enough to know the correct semantics. I do know: (1) 'this' has been talked about for a very long time, admittedly in 'drips and drabs', as a KDE + Firefox issue. Specifically getting Firefox to use Dolphin. (2) The Opensuse 'patches' have been specifically for use in KDE, and have been called in packaging 'mozilla-kde4-integration' and 'kmozillahelper' Sure, but time has moved on and default application handling is now covered by a cross-desktop specification. This is no longer about having KDE Workspace specific code, framing it as such hides the actual scope. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe
Re: [opensuse-factory-mozilla] Re: KDE + Firefox integration: restart?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2014, at 08:59 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: Sure, but time has moved on and default application handling is now covered by a cross-desktop specification. This is no longer about having KDE Workspace specific code, framing it as such hides the actual scope. Would that by chance be the 'xdg-tools file dialog' as used by Google Chrome already, Use KDE file dialogs https://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/152179-use-kde-file-dialogs/ ? Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe
Re: [opensuse-factory-mozilla] Re: KDE + Firefox integration: restart?
On Tuesday, 2014-07-08, 09:04:39, grantksupp...@operamail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2014, at 08:59 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: Sure, but time has moved on and default application handling is now covered by a cross-desktop specification. This is no longer about having KDE Workspace specific code, framing it as such hides the actual scope. Would that by chance be the 'xdg-tools file dialog' as used by Google Chrome already, Use KDE file dialogs https://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/152179-use-kde-file-dialogs/ No, kdialog usage is indeed KDE tools specific. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe
Re: [opensuse-factory-mozilla] Re: KDE + Firefox integration: restart?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2014, at 09:10 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: Would that by chance be the 'xdg-tools file dialog' as used by Google Chrome already, Use KDE file dialogs https://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/152179-use-kde-file-dialogs/ No, kdialog usage is indeed KDE tools specific. Ok. I'm understanding enough to know that this is a pretty important idea. I'm confused/ignorant enough about the tech atm as to know what, specifically, to suggest or recommend. That said, could *you* spare a moment to share your knowledgeable comments/recommendations about this @ this 'consolidating' thread Firefox + KDE integration: Getting FF to use Dolphin reliably. 12+ years and counting. https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2014-July/001940.html ? Your creds, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer, KDE user support, developer mentoring, play much better than mine, Just a user, here ... And, it might well result in getting on track with a broader, more-modern solution! Thanks! Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe
Re: KDE + Firefox integration: restart?
Hi! You mention in your mail that Chromium uses xdg-open, but I'm pretty sure that's just a fallback. It is pretty well integrated with KDE; using kwallet for password storage (and I looked at that code recently, and they actually spent a pretty big effort integrating it properly, launching kwalletd if it isn't running, etc.), using the KDE proxy settings and integrating the KDE proxy settings dialog, and so on. My personal opinion is that we shouldn't need to have to work to integrate all kinds of third-party apps into KDE, and that if someone was interested in doing this they would have done so already. I also don't think Firefox is a browser anyone should use from a security perspective, but I understand that security isn't a big priority for many people. But the web has become a very hostile environment, and proper sandboxing is a must, IMHO. :-) -- Martin Sandsmark Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe
