Re: KDE Gear 24.02 bug fix releases and next Gear releases
El dilluns, 27 de novembre de 2023, a les 8:57:26 (CET), Heiko Becker va escriure: > Hi everyone, > > the question of the next Gear release (after 24.02) came up in #kde-devel > yesterday evening. Due to this, it also occured to me that we haven't > scheduled any bug fix releases for 24.02 itself. Which is a bit connected > to the first question, because I guess we don't want too many stable > branches at the same time (as in more than 1 really). > > I mostly see three options, but of course please chime if you think of > something else: > > > a) Continue with the usual dates, eg. 24.04 and 24.08. (or omitting 24.04 > and continue with 24.08 right away) > > b) Continue with the usual interval, so 24.06, 24.10 and so on > > c) Slightly change the interval to come back to the proven schedule with > its nice numbers divisible by 4, so something like, 24.05 and 24.08. > > > Personally, I'd favour b) or c). I think a) is either too short or too > long. Not sure how b) would interact with holiday schedules, exams or > distro releases though. I think b) isn't the best idea, I think the .4/.8/.12 schedule has worked well for us for a long time, we only exceptionally decided to shift it for this release because it was better to ship most of our things together because of the Qt6 migration. Personally in my brain I had the a) scenario, but you are right that having 24.04 just after 24.02 may not be the best time wise (and waiting for 24.08 is also too much), so I have now been convinced that c) may be a get idea, so we get back to our "usual" release schedule a bit more "slowly" That would leave us with: 24.02.0: February 24.02.1: March 24.02.2: April 24.05.0: May 24.05.1: June 24.05.2: July 24.08.0: August ... resume usual scheduling ... Cheers, Albert > > Regards, > Heiko
Re: KDE Gear 24.02 bug fix releases and next Gear releases
El dilluns, 27 de novembre de 2023, a les 19:16:27 (CET), Laura David Hurka va escriure: > > On Monday, 2023-09-04T05:50:45z David Edmundson wrote: > > > [...] The KDE Gear release will move by 2 months [...] > > I think now I get the confusion: > Does this sentence refer to “KDE Gear 23.12” or to the general “KDE Gear > release schedule”? > > I just assumed only 23.12 is delayed, because there was once a discussion > about changing the schedule in general, and it was thought to be fine as it > is. Yes, that 2 months shift was discussed as a one time thing, not as a forever thing. Cheers, Albert
Re: KDE Gear 24.02 bug fix releases and next Gear releases
On Monday, November 27, 2023 8:57:26?AM GMT+1 Heiko Becker wrote: > Hi everyone, > > the question of the next Gear release (after 24.02) came up in #kde-devel > yesterday evening. Due to this, it also occured to me that we haven't > scheduled any bug fix releases for 24.02 itself. Which is a bit connected > to the first question, because I guess we don't want too many stable > branches at the same time (as in more than 1 really). > > I mostly see three options, but of course please chime if you think of > something else: > > > a) Continue with the usual dates, eg. 24.04 and 24.08. (or omitting 24.04 > and continue with 24.08 right away) > > b) Continue with the usual interval, so 24.06, 24.10 and so on > > c) Slightly change the interval to come back to the proven schedule with > its nice numbers divisible by 4, so something like, 24.05 and 24.08. > > > Personally, I'd favour b) or c). I think a) is either too short or too > long. Not sure how b) would interact with holiday schedules, exams or > distro releases though. b) would mean the major gear releases and plasma releases would be sort of synchronized as both are once ever 4 months and Plasma releases have been happening in February, June and October. This would mean a return of a megarelease from the KDE 4 times, which is a something I would like to see but it is also a controversial idea. As someone who spend a lot of time on the gear and plasma announcements every 2 months, I personally would prefer to spend even more time on a big announcement every 4 months. Also from a promo perspective, having a bit announcement every 4 months for gear + plasma is more effective than having a less big annoucement every 2 months. This might also be good for distros as from a feature perspective, they can align themselve with one 4 months cycle and not 2 different 4 months cycles. But in any case, that would be worse than the status quo is having the gear and plasma announcement just one week or two appart, as it would be quite unsustainable for the promo team in term of work load. And it means a prolonged period of release stress for us. Additionally the first release would eclipse the second one as tech/linux newspapers/youtubers will only report about the first release and not the second one, because they don't want to publish too much KDE news days appart. So if we don't release the major version of Gear and Plasma at the same time, I would prefer to keep them apart as before and go with a) or c). Cheers, Carl > > Regards, > Heiko
Re: KDE Gear 24.02 bug fix releases and next Gear releases
> On Monday, 2023-09-04T05:50:45z David Edmundson wrote: > > [...] The KDE Gear release will move by 2 months [...] I think now I get the confusion: Does this sentence refer to “KDE Gear 23.12” or to the general “KDE Gear release schedule”? I just assumed only 23.12 is delayed, because there was once a discussion about changing the schedule in general, and it was thought to be fine as it is.
Re: KDE Gear 24.02 bug fix releases and next Gear releases
On Monday, November 27, 2023 8:57:26 AM CET Heiko Becker wrote: > the question of the next Gear release (after 24.02) came up in #kde-devel > yesterday evening. [...] > > a) Continue with the usual dates, eg. 24.04 and 24.08. (or omitting 24.04 > and continue with 24.08 right away) > > b) Continue with the usual interval, so 24.06, 24.10 and so on > > c) Slightly change the interval to come back to the proven schedule with > its nice numbers divisible by 4, so something like, 24.05 and 24.08. Hi, As I remember, there wasn’t a more recent announcement than the below, and the linked wiki page does not discuss releases outside 24.02. So I assume that option a) from above is true. 23.08, 24.02, 24.04, then proceed as usual (every 4 months). But if something has changed since the below announcement, I would be happy to learn it, too. :) On Monday, 2023-09-04T05:50:45z David Edmundson wrote: > [...] > > - The KDE Gear release will move by 2 months to allow for the extra > time needed for testing initial Qt6 changes > > - An Alpha will be made in November (a soft freeze in Plasma terms) > > - Betas/RCs will be made throughout December and January (3 releases, > 3 weeks apart) > > - Final release of all 3 major parts in sync in February > > Due to the delay of KDE Gear by [2 months] an additional patch > release of 23.08 will be made. > > David Edmundson On Saturday, 2023-11-25T11:30:05z Albert Astals Cid wrote: > According to https://community.kde.org/Schedules/February_2024_MegaRelease > feature freeze is 29 November (i.e. next week). > > [...]
KDE Gear 24.02 bug fix releases and next Gear releases
Hi everyone, the question of the next Gear release (after 24.02) came up in #kde-devel yesterday evening. Due to this, it also occured to me that we haven't scheduled any bug fix releases for 24.02 itself. Which is a bit connected to the first question, because I guess we don't want too many stable branches at the same time (as in more than 1 really). I mostly see three options, but of course please chime if you think of something else: a) Continue with the usual dates, eg. 24.04 and 24.08. (or omitting 24.04 and continue with 24.08 right away) b) Continue with the usual interval, so 24.06, 24.10 and so on c) Slightly change the interval to come back to the proven schedule with its nice numbers divisible by 4, so something like, 24.05 and 24.08. Personally, I'd favour b) or c). I think a) is either too short or too long. Not sure how b) would interact with holiday schedules, exams or distro releases though. Regards, Heiko
