Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2015-01-29 Thread Ivan Čukić
My opinion is still the same on this matter: VS2012 (aka MSVC11). I guessed as much. Just wanted to get the ball rolling again so that we can reach a decision, instead of just talking about it. I also think that (while insufficient for the most fun things of c++11) MSVC11 (VS12) is the

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2015-01-29 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, So, the thread died out again. Who is in favour of the following: - Require MSVC10 like (aka status quo) - Require MSVC11 - Require MSVC12 (it would be nice to get the input from kde windows guys as well) Cheerio, Ivan On 17 November 2014 at 14:41, Kai Uwe Broulik

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2015-01-29 Thread Andrius da Costa Ribas
+1 for VC12 (I'm using msvc 2013) -- Andrius. 2015-01-29 6:49 GMT-02:00 Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org: Hi all, So, the thread died out again. Who is in favour of the following: - Require MSVC10 like (aka status quo) - Require MSVC11 - Require MSVC12 (it would be nice to get the input

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2015-01-29 Thread Milian Wolff
On Thursday 29 January 2015 11:56:51 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Thursday 29 January 2015 09:49:58 Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi all, So, the thread died out again. Who is in favour of the following: - Require MSVC10 like (aka status quo) - Require MSVC11 - Require MSVC12 My opinion is

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-17 Thread Ivan Čukić
On Monday, 17 November 2014 07:33:00 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2014 18:01:04 Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi, The topic of increasing the compiler versions we require might have been started for the specific issue one of the frameworks had, but I think it shouldn't have died out

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-17 Thread Ivan Čukić
Yeah, it looks like I've been looking at the CTP from November 2012 - for VS11 [1]. It would be awesome if somebody who has VS11 actually investigated this. Namely, the 11.0 proper should support variadics up to some number of arguments (yes, sounds really daft and hackish). If true, it

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-17 Thread Nicolás Álvarez
El 17/11/2014, a las 06:03, Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org escribió: On Monday, 17 November 2014 07:33:00 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2014 18:01:04 Ivan Čukić wrote: - initializer lists Unsupported on VS2012. Again, seems to be that CTP thingie, damn. (though, again, the

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-17 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
El domingo, 16 de noviembre de 2014, Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org escribió: Hi, The topic of increasing the compiler versions we require might have been started for the specific issue one of the frameworks had, but I think it shouldn't have died out when the issue in question got patched.

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-17 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
- initializer lists Unsupported on VS2012. Again, seems to be that CTP thingie, damn. (though, again, the initializer lists should also be tested - maybe they also work if the number of arguments is less than ...) I've had problems with them even on VS2013, like return QHashint,

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-16 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi, The topic of increasing the compiler versions we require might have been started for the specific issue one of the frameworks had, but I think it shouldn't have died out when the issue in question got patched. IMO, this topic requires more consideration. Some of the features that we could

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-16 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Sunday 16 November 2014 18:01:04 Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi, The topic of increasing the compiler versions we require might have been started for the specific issue one of the frameworks had, but I think it shouldn't have died out when the issue in question got patched. IMO, this topic

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 08:53:42 Mirko Boehm wrote: Hi, On 05 Nov 2014, at 04:33, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: So, I hereby propose making an exception and bumping the minimum compiler version *for ktexteditor only* to MSVC2012. Opinions? I propose to

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Wednesday 05 November 2014 08:58:04 Martin Graesslin wrote: So in stead of adding one exception after the other, just go the full way and raise the requirement. I'm rather against per framework exception too. That said, raising the requirement should be done responsibly regarding

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 09:05:19 Milian Wolff wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2014 00:33:58 Nicolás Alvarez wrote: So, I hereby propose making an exception and bumping the minimum compiler version *for ktexteditor only* to MSVC2012. Opinions? OK from my side, but I'd say Christoph

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Mirko Boehm
Hi! On 05 Nov 2014, at 09:02, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: I propose to bump the required compiler versions across the board to compilers that fully 100% implement C++11. It is 2014 and C++14 is finalised. And we are a Free Software project and none of our compilers have any problems

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: Hello, Hi all, On Wednesday 05 November 2014 08:58:04 Martin Graesslin wrote: So in stead of adding one exception after the other, just go the full way and raise the requirement. I'm rather against per framework exception

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Cristian Oneț
2014-11-05 9:58 GMT+02:00 Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org: On Wednesday 05 November 2014 08:53:42 Mirko Boehm wrote: Hi, On 05 Nov 2014, at 04:33, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: So, I hereby propose making an exception and bumping the minimum compiler version

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Christoph Cullmann
2014-11-05 9:58 GMT+02:00 Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org: On Wednesday 05 November 2014 08:53:42 Mirko Boehm wrote: Hi, On 05 Nov 2014, at 04:33, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: So, I hereby propose making an exception and bumping the minimum compiler

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Allen Winter
On Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:33:58 AM Nicolás Alvarez wrote: Hi all, According to https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/C++11, KDE Frameworks support MSVC2010 and later versions. Since ktexteditor is part of KF5, it is supposed to work on MSVC2010. It currently doesn't; several

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Wednesday 05 November 2014 09:25:27 Mirko Boehm wrote: On 05 Nov 2014, at 09:02, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: I propose to bump the required compiler versions across the board to compilers that fully 100% implement C++11. It is 2014 and C++14 is finalised. And we are a Free

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Milian Wolff
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 14:35:07 Kevin Ottens wrote: Hello, On Wednesday 05 November 2014 09:25:27 Mirko Boehm wrote: On 05 Nov 2014, at 09:02, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: I propose to bump the required compiler versions across the board to compilers that fully 100%

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2014-11-05 10:35 GMT-03:00 Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org: VS2012 hits the sweet spot of being relatively widespread while starting to have a useful subset of C++11 (case in point ktexteditor which prompted this thread builds with it). Actually I just found it doesn't build with VS2012 either,

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Sven Brauch
Actually I just found it doesn't build with VS2012 either, ugh. And I expected the fixes to be easier, but it seems I still have to fix the unit test full of brace initializers for 2012 to work. I will fix that, after all it's my fault it looks like this. Just tell me what features I can't use.

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-05 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2014-11-05 15:18 GMT-03:00 Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com: 2014-11-05 10:35 GMT-03:00 Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org: VS2012 hits the sweet spot of being relatively widespread while starting to have a useful subset of C++11 (case in point ktexteditor which prompted this thread builds

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-04 Thread Mirko Boehm
Hi, On 05 Nov 2014, at 04:33, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: So, I hereby propose making an exception and bumping the minimum compiler version *for ktexteditor only* to MSVC2012. Opinions? I propose to bump the required compiler versions across the board to compilers

Re: Supporting MSVC2010 in ktexteditor framework

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 08:53:42 Mirko Boehm wrote: Hi, On 05 Nov 2014, at 04:33, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: So, I hereby propose making an exception and bumping the minimum compiler version *for ktexteditor only* to MSVC2012. Opinions? I propose to