D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Friedrich W. H. Kossebau]

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  Good work with the icons.
  
  Seems there is also need for snow + wind, @vkrause & @spstarr can and 
hopefully tell you more.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Carson Black]

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Carson Black]

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  Run icons through SVG cleaner

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[TrickyRicky]

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  With the blue color, I like these icons. Please remember to update images in 
the test plan when you make changes such as this color change, they're very 
helpful for judging things e.g. on a phone.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Noah Davis]

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  Oh yes, that would be a good thing. Any of these will be fine: 
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Icon_Workflow_Tips#SVG_optimization

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Björn Feber]

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  Can you clean the SVGs a bit?

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

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  Shipit!

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Noah Davis]

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  I'm fine with this blue.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Carson Black]

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  Remove excess icon

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Carson Black]

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  Colour changes

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

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  I don't mind the cyan myself, though I'll admit my wife (who is an artist)  
commented on it negatively when I showed it to her. Perhaps make it a bit bluer 
and then we can get these nice icons in. I'd rather not bikeshed for too long 
on them. :)

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Noah Davis]

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  In D24537#546733 , @cblack wrote:
  
  > I think cyan is an appropriate choice considering that people tend to 
associate air with shades of blue, even if air is transparent and that's just 
the colour of the sky. The shade could be changed if necessary, but I 
personally think it looks fine.
  
  
  It just sticks out way too much. I know you like bold color choices, but it 
really bothers me. If you must pick a color, pick blue. As you said, shades of 
blue are associated with air. Blue also fits in better with the rest of 
breeze-icons.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Carson Black]

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  Shift wind emblem to the right, clean scratch work, and rename night icons

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Carson Black]

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  In D24537#545187 , @ndavis wrote:
  
  > That cyan looks odd. It sticks out way too much and AFAIK, it isn't 
commonly used to represent wind. Gray on more gray is going to be tricky as 
well though, especially when you've got partly cloudy vs cloudy. What if the 
wind was a bit more monochromatic? Wind is invisible, so it only really has 
shapes that are associated with how it moves around objects to represent it. 
Perhaps we can use darker colors for lighter backgrounds and lighter colors for 
darker backgrounds then? Here's an idea for an alternate shape type, but you 
don't have to use it: F7571622: Screenshot_20191011_041547.png 

  
  
  I think cyan is an appropriate choice considering that people tend to 
associate air with shades of blue, even if air is transparent and that's just 
the colour of the sky. The shade could be changed if necessary, but I 
personally think it looks fine.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

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  In D24537#545451 , @kossebau wrote:
  
  > Sadly the weather applet is pretty low on my interest, actually would be 
happy to have someone take over maintainance/care.
  
  
  I might be interested in taking over the widget itself (can't say the same 
thing for the data engine though).

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Noah Davis]

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  In D24537#545451 , @kossebau wrote:
  
  > BTW, when it come to weather status icon, I dream of the possibility to 
simply compose the current status from base elements, instead of having 
pre-rendered icons.
  >
  > So there would be iconic elements for "cloud", "rain cloud", "snow cloud" 
etc. as well as  "sun" & "moon" (later could be even rendered to match moon 
phase). And those would be composed on drawing :)
  
  
  I think plasmashell can do that already, but it's just not any better than 
making an icon for every state. You'd have to move the elements around the 
screen in the code to keep them all visible, but you'd be showing basically the 
same thing that we already show with pre-made icons.
  
  > Even more cool would be the option to animate all those, e.g. on status 
change :) That's what QtQuick is for, pre-rendered icons are so 1980 :) (edit: 
actually, even then things would be composed & animated, hello C64 sprites : ) )
  
  That would be cool for some things and the weather widget might actually be a 
good place to use animated icons, but not for most things. It would just be 
distracting and make Plasma use significantly more resources.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Friedrich W. H. Kossebau]

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  BTW, when it come to weather status icon, I dream of the possibility to 
simply compose the current status from base elements, instead of having 
pre-rendered icons.
  
  So there would be iconic elements for "cloud", "rain cloud", "snow cloud" 
etc. as well as  "sun" & "moon" (later could be even rendered to match moon 
phase). And those would be composed on drawing :)
  
  Even more cool would be the option to animate all those, e.g. on status 
change :) That's what QtQuick is for, pre-rendered icons are so 1980 :)
  
  Sadly the weather applet is pretty low on my interest, actually would be 
happy to have someone take over maintainance/care.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Friedrich W. H. Kossebau]

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  In D24537#545420 , @vkrause wrote:
  
  > Nice! We use the Breeze weather icons in KDE Itinerary too, based on 
api.met.no data, but so far didn't make use of the wind information in there 
yet.
  
  
  In case you want to make use of the wind information also when it comes to 
directions, the wind arrow icons currently only exist as Plasma theme icon 
pack, at
  
https://phabricator.kde.org/source/kdeplasma-addons/browse/master/applets/weather/wind-arrows.svgz
  
  Perhaps something to make normal icon theme icons as well, if there is 
interest.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Volker Krause]

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  Nice! We use the Breeze weather icons in KDE Itinerary too, based on 
api.met.no data, but so far didn't make use of the wind information in there 
yet.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Noah Davis]

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  That cyan looks odd. It sticks out way too much and AFAIK, it isn't commonly 
used to represent wind. Gray on more gray is going to be tricky as well though, 
especially when you've got partly cloudy vs cloudy. What if the wind was a bit 
more monochromatic? Wind is invisible, so it only really has shapes that are 
associated with how it moves around objects to represent it. Perhaps we can use 
darker colors for lighter backgrounds and lighter colors for darker backgrounds 
then?

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

ngraham added a dependent revision: D24483: [Weather data engine] Handle windy 
conditions in NOAA backend.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

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  That was my impression too, but upon further examination, the `noaa_i18n.dat` 
file has strings that indicate windyness in addition to other conditions, and 
if I add a complex conditional to the data engine, I can see that the windy + 
cloudy condition is getting hit (it is in fact windy and partly cloudy today, 
lucky me):
  
  F7568554: Screenshot_20191010_125706.png 

  
  So I think this is fine. For the case where all we get back is "windy", we 
can probably assume a clear sky like we do for the "hot" condition, because if 
there were any clouds, they would have been mentioned.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Friedrich W. H. Kossebau]

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  Thanks for the icon work. I fear some info here though has been lost: what is 
needed is an icon which describes "windy weather" in general, where we have no 
other info about whether it is cloudy, sunny or not.
  At least by what I understood from D24483 
, the info provided by the weather service 
is "Breezy"/"Windy". Whose meaning might depend on the context of the area & 
season. I have seen this e.g. with New Yorh forecast from NOAA. So to handle 
this in a generic way, as context might be hard to pull in, having an icon 
which just states "windy" would be good to have, not referring to clouds etc.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

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  Also one more thing, sorry: `-wind` should go before `-night` in the night 
versions.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

[Nathaniel Graham]

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  Nice!
  
  Looks like there are some gaps in the windy overcast icon: F7568360: gaps.png 

  
  Also I wonder if the wind gust lines might look better if they were moved two 
pixels to the right. When there are clouds, the right-most edge lands right on 
top of the right-most edge of the clouds, which muddies the display a bit IMO. 
Like so: F7568370: Screenshot_20191010_122207.png 

  
  (You can kind of see the gaps here too)
  
  Finally the SVGs themselves have some extra shapes used for scratch work 
beyond the bounds of the frame. Those should probably be removed.

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

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D24537: Icons for windy weather

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  windy-weather-icons (branched from master)

REVISION DETAIL
  https://phabricator.kde.org/D24537

AFFECTED FILES
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-clear-night-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-clear-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-clouds-night-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-clouds-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-few-clouds-night-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-few-clouds-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-many-clouds-wind.svg
  icons-dark/applets/48/weather-overcast-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-clear-night-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-clear-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-clouds-night-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-clouds-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-few-clouds-night-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-few-clouds-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-many-clouds-wind.svg
  icons/applets/48/weather-overcast-wind.svg

To: cblack, #vdg
Cc: kde-frameworks-devel, LeGast00n, GB_2, michaelh, ngraham, bruns