Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-04-26 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Terve, Dimanche, le 11 avril 2010, à 19:08, Tuomo Penttinen a écrit: Hello all, On Fri, April 9, 2010 4:20 pm, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Vendredi, le 9 avril 2010, à 03:15, Tuomo Penttinen a écrit: On Wed, April 7, 2010 3:09 pm, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Mardi, le 6 avril

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-04-17 Thread Armijn Hemel
hiya, It will be very tied to the KIO-slave implementation actually, since KIO does not have a standardized query method, and UPnP also has sorting, filtering, etc. So we rely on those to be implemented in a certain way. It's not as simple as using a generic KIO Collection. You mean: UPnP

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-04-09 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Vendredi, le 9 avril 2010, à 03:15, Tuomo Penttinen a écrit: Hello all, On Wed, April 7, 2010 3:09 pm, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Hi all (and Tuomo), Mardi, le 6 avril 2010, à 23:41, Kevin Ottens a écrit: On Wednesday 31 March 2010 14:42:03 Tuomo Penttinen wrote: I agree. The

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-04-06 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 14:42:03 Tuomo Penttinen wrote: I agree. The UPnP discovery protocol is lightweight enough that I wouldn't worry about it in most environments. Actually I like numbers. :-) My worry lies in the fact that we're going for the full game of having it in libsolid, which

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-31 Thread Bart Cerneels
2010/3/30 Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org: On Sunday 21 March 2010 16:15:46 Nikhil Marathe wrote: I would really love to participate in GSoC and get KDE to have seamless UPnP support and allow Amarok to treat the network as a great collection. I have been working on understanding the UPnP stuff

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-31 Thread Tuomo Penttinen
Hello all, On Wed, March 31, 2010 10:54 am, Bart Cerneels wrote: 2010/3/30 Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org: On Sunday 21 March 2010 16:15:46 Nikhil Marathe wrote: I would really love to participate in GSoC and get KDE to have seamless UPnP support and allow Amarok to treat the network as a great

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-30 Thread Armijn Hemel
hi! It's unlikely that we will require much more than what Hupnp already provides, which is a control point, service discovery and action invocation mechanisms. I would not say that right away. Although UPnP does seem simple at first sight there is quite a bit more to it when you want

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-30 Thread Bart Cerneels
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 15:02, Armijn Hemel arm...@uulug.nl wrote: ... Some proposed protocols are just that, proposals. These for instance don't have an implementation or there is just no interest. In general, if it's not covered by DLNA don't seriously consider implementing it. Internet

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-30 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Sunday 21 March 2010 16:15:46 Nikhil Marathe wrote: I would really love to participate in GSoC and get KDE to have seamless UPnP support and allow Amarok to treat the network as a great collection. I have been working on understanding the UPnP stuff and using the Hupnp library and a bit of

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-29 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Samedi, le 27 mars 2010, à 19:30, Nikhil Marathe a écrit: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau kosse...@kde.org wrote: As for the UPnP spec, I think that Solid should export a generic UPnP device system, What do you mean by this? Solid objects which implement a

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-29 Thread Nikhil Marathe
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau kosse...@kde.org wrote: Not readable for me: Error. You need to be in the admin group to read documents in the user prefix. socghop isn't working properly right now, so I can't go and change permissions. Meanwhile please see the

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-28 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Bart Cerneels bart.cerne...@kde.org wrote: Since mediaserver is by far the most used UPnP filesystem like service I propose we use upnp:// for mediaserver. Other (future) upnp kio-slaves can use something like upnp-dsc://, etc. Since the kio-slave feature is

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-27 Thread Nikhil Marathe
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Will Stephenson wstephen...@kde.org wrote: Apart from these basic requirements, what upcoming features of HUpnp will you depend upon and how would it affect your proposal if HUpnp feature development slows down? It's unlikely that we will require much more than

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-25 Thread Nikolaj Hald Nielsen
Hi Nikhil I think this looks like a very well thought out proposal. Unfortunately I cannot really comment on he technical merits as my knowledge of UPnP is limited at best. We should get Bart to comment on it, as he is our resident UPnP expert, but it seems he is quite busy at the moment. I am

Re: [Kde-hardware-devel] [GSoC] Preliminary UPnP support proposal

2010-03-25 Thread Nikhil Marathe
Thanks for the feedback everybody! @Friedrich I will be investigating the existing infrastructure this Weekend, though I've already had a glance at it. As for the UPnP spec, I think that Solid should export a generic UPnP device system, and perhaps we can have special handlers for some common