[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)
On 2011/07/04 18:05 (GMT) Duncan composed: Felix Miata posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:55:12 -0400 as excerpted: You mean a full KDE4 install? Yes. Being a kde list, and kde3 being officially unsupported (except by the trinity project, but that's a separate project that presumably has its own lists), kde4 would be the assumption. Fine, but out of support doesn't make KDE3 into something other than KDE. Kaffeine3 in OP was intended to refer to whatever Kaffeine version(s) shipped in KDE3. So, I'm stuck for the moment using a junk keyboard, and thus stifled from making a whole lot of progress. FWIW, you might consider my keyboard junk, but it does sort of fit the insanely priced category, tho it's somewhat commodity still, and it anyway works well for me. Insanely priced refers to http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/store/specialty/product/avant-stellar/ which is the only location I know of offering something resembling the best keyboard ever made: http://stanis.net/uvpub/omnikey102.html -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)
Felix Miata posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:31:39 -0400 as excerpted: Insanely priced refers to http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/store/specialty/product/avant-stellar/ which is the only location I know of offering something resembling the best keyboard ever made: http://stanis.net/uvpub/omnikey102.html As you likely figured out when I mentioned ergonomic, neither of those would be particularly useful to me here. But $325 is indeed a bit insane. Altho, at that price it's certainly not mass produced, which will certainly up the production costs quite a bit. It wouldn't surprise me if it was made either to order or in batches of 10 or 20 at a time, lots of hand work, thus explaining a lot of the cost. (I didn't look, the link might have said something about that.) Here's the one I was talking about (blarg, looks like the entire logitech site is flash-based or some such, can't get a link there, let's see about a shopping link somewhere... found, watch the wrap!): http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Desktop-Keyboard-Wheel/dp/ B1RMDH A better picture of the keyboard (black, as I have, without the wrist- rest, which I don't use either). http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303? var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar_lwgsi=y WORKSFORME! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)
On 2011/07/05 00:06 (GMT) Duncan composed: A better picture of the keyboard (black, as I have, without the wrist- rest, which I don't use either). http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303? var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar_lwgsi=y WORKSFORME! =:^) Not me. The most important part isn't there. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg shows my idea of ergonomic, but not their center portions, as I use them fully dropped like a normal flat KB. http://stanis.net/uvpub/omnikey102.html sums up what counts for me. Wrapping is not a long line necessity, as the following (I expect) shows. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Desktop-Keyboard-Wheel/dp/B1RMDH http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303?var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar_lwgsi=y -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)
Felix Miata posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:41:37 -0400 as excerpted: On 2011/07/05 00:06 (GMT) Duncan composed: A better picture of the keyboard (black, as I have, without the wrist- rest, which I don't use either). http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303? var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar_lwgsi=y WORKSFORME! =:^) Not me. The most important part isn't there. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg shows my idea of ergonomic, but not their center portions, as I use them fully dropped like a normal flat KB. http://stanis.net/uvpub/omnikey102.html sums up what counts for me. That wikipedia image in the center-raised/deflected position (bottom one in the image) is what counts for me. Wrapping is not a long line necessity, as the following (I expect) shows. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Desktop-Keyboard-Wheel/dp/ B1RMDH http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303? var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar_lwgsi=y I know, but it's a usage issue with pan (my client). I can unwrap, but then that unwraps all the paragraphs I wrote too. I can then select them and use the wrap-selected function, to just leave the links unwrapped, but it's easier just to mention wrapping and let the reader do the work if they are interested in visiting the link (many won't be). After all, I went to the work of finding or digging up the link and posting what the reader would have likely had to google for otherwise. And selecting the link, editing it if necessary, and selecting a browser option for the URL popup of a decent clipboard tool or clicking the first bit of the link,then select/pasting the rest of it in when the browser returns a 404 or whatever (the method I used to use before I had a decent clipboard tool), works well enough. Plus, the user's client might wrap the result in any case, necessitating the above procedure regardless, tho that could be argued to be their problem. Of course I could use a shorterlink service, but those have their own problems (like generally being opaque as to the ultimate destination, plus being somewhat of a hassle to generate the link to post). But it is an irritation of mine with pan, for sure. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)
On 2011/07/05 01:07 (GMT) Duncan composed: I know, but it's a usage issue with pan (my client). I've never used any email program that doesn't refuse to automatically wrap a long, whitespace-free line beginning with the character . Did you try doing nothing more than prepending directly to http://? If so and failed and I wanted to keep using it, I'd be all over its devs about inability to not wrap long URLs. It's so unnecessary. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
