Re: [Kea-users] DHCPOFFER delay

2024-11-12 Thread Andrey Kostin
Thanks, Darren for your advise. That's what I did: preventively reduced 
lease time to 1 hour, commented out the shared network with this relay 
and all users smoothly switched to a new relay.


Kind regards,
Andrey

Darren Ankney писал(а) 2024-11-12 06:26:

Hi Andrey,

If you are wanting another shared network to be selected based on the
relay address, you would need to delete the shared-network (or remove
the relay address from it) as I think Kea will only find one of the
shared-networks based on the relay address.  It won't go looking for
another if there are no addresses available in the first, I don't
believe.

Thank you,
Darren Ankney


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Re: [Kea-users] DHCPOFFER delay

2024-11-12 Thread Darren Ankney
Hi Andrey,

> Another quick question, what's the recommended way to stop serving users
> from a subnet/pool? For example, there is a shared network with a subnet
> and this subnet has a pool and no static reservations. Which way is
> better, to comment out "pools":, comment out "subnet4" section or delete
> whole shared-network to make dhcp clients switch to another
> relay/subnet, considering that it's available via another relay?

If you are wanting another shared network to be selected based on the
relay address, you would need to delete the shared-network (or remove
the relay address from it) as I think Kea will only find one of the
shared-networks based on the relay address.  It won't go looking for
another if there are no addresses available in the first, I don't
believe.

Thank you,
Darren Ankney
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Re: [Kea-users] DHCPOFFER delay

2024-11-11 Thread Andrey Kostin


Hi Darren,

Thank you for your reply. You're correct, if one router dies, dhcp 
clients will experience an outage until rebind, but this time is 
relatively short because of asymmetric lease feature (also called lease 
split) with short lease time. These users aren't in a common broadcast 
domain, they are broadband customers and connected in individual S-C 
vlans that are terminated on dynamically created subinterfaces only on 
one of routers. If they get IPs from the same subnet, we would have to 
advertise individual IPs from each router to direct traffic destined to 
subscriber's IP to a correct router.
Delay manipulation I asked for comes from PPPoE where subscribers 
connections can be directed to more preferred router. Actually Juniper 
has implemented this feature for it's local dhcp server, but not for the 
relay:

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/subscriber-mgmt-sessions/topics/topic-map/dhcp-local-server-response-delay.html

No problem though, it's not the end of the world to not have this delay.
Another quick question, what's the recommended way to stop serving users 
from a subnet/pool? For example, there is a shared network with a subnet 
and this subnet has a pool and no static reservations. Which way is 
better, to comment out "pools":, comment out "subnet4" section or delete 
whole shared-network to make dhcp clients switch to another 
relay/subnet, considering that it's available via another relay?


Kind regards,
Andrey

Darren Ankney писал(а) 2024-11-08 16:41:

Hi Andrey,

I cannot think of a way to accomplish this.  The usual way things like
this are done is that the same subnet is assigned to both relays.  The
client is given a gateway address that is a floating IP between the
two relays (which are also the gateway routers).  In this way, it
doesn't matter which relay sends the traffic to the DHCP server.  The
correct subnet is allocated and routing works.  It sounds like, in
this case, you've assigned separate subnets to the relays ... Kea
won't even know that they are related in any way.  Won't this cause a
temporary customer routing problem if one of the routers dies?

Thank you,
Darren Ankney


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Re: [Kea-users] DHCPOFFER delay

2024-11-08 Thread Darren Ankney
Hi Andrey,

I cannot think of a way to accomplish this.  The usual way things like
this are done is that the same subnet is assigned to both relays.  The
client is given a gateway address that is a floating IP between the
two relays (which are also the gateway routers).  In this way, it
doesn't matter which relay sends the traffic to the DHCP server.  The
correct subnet is allocated and routing works.  It sounds like, in
this case, you've assigned separate subnets to the relays ... Kea
won't even know that they are related in any way.  Won't this cause a
temporary customer routing problem if one of the routers dies?

Thank you,
Darren Ankney

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:50 AM Andrey Kostin  wrote:
>
> Hi Darren,
>
> I plan to have two DHCP relay routers facing IPoE subscribers and would
> like to make relay selection more deterministic, so that one relay is
> active and another is backup. Currently I assign IPs from different
> subnets to advertise only aggregate prefix for each subnet from each
> router. Users connect to both relays and they work as active-active.
> Seems there is no problem with this setup, but just wanted to know is
> there a way to make one of relays preferred.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrey
>
> Darren Ankney писал(а) 2024-10-31 04:18:
> > Hi Andrey,
> >
> > There is no way to do this that I am aware of.  Kea is designed to be
> > fast.  There are many ways to influence what subnet is selected,
> > however.  Perhaps some detail about what you are trying to do might
> > reveal another idea for a solution?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Darren Ankney
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 3:41 PM Andrey Kostin 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello, Kea users,
> >>
> >> A quick question: is there a way to set a delay for DHCPOFFER sent by
> >> kea-dhcp4 or kea-dhcp6 via relay to make clients to use one
> >> relay/subnet
> >> over another?
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Andrey
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Re: [Kea-users] DHCPOFFER delay

2024-11-07 Thread Andrey Kostin

Hi Darren,

I plan to have two DHCP relay routers facing IPoE subscribers and would 
like to make relay selection more deterministic, so that one relay is 
active and another is backup. Currently I assign IPs from different 
subnets to advertise only aggregate prefix for each subnet from each 
router. Users connect to both relays and they work as active-active. 
Seems there is no problem with this setup, but just wanted to know is 
there a way to make one of relays preferred.


Kind regards,
Andrey

Darren Ankney писал(а) 2024-10-31 04:18:

Hi Andrey,

There is no way to do this that I am aware of.  Kea is designed to be
fast.  There are many ways to influence what subnet is selected,
however.  Perhaps some detail about what you are trying to do might
reveal another idea for a solution?

Thank you,
Darren Ankney

On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 3:41 PM Andrey Kostin  
wrote:



Hello, Kea users,

A quick question: is there a way to set a delay for DHCPOFFER sent by
kea-dhcp4 or kea-dhcp6 via relay to make clients to use one 
relay/subnet

over another?

Kind regards,
Andrey
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Re: [Kea-users] DHCPOFFER delay

2024-10-31 Thread Darren Ankney
Hi Andrey,

There is no way to do this that I am aware of.  Kea is designed to be
fast.  There are many ways to influence what subnet is selected,
however.  Perhaps some detail about what you are trying to do might
reveal another idea for a solution?

Thank you,
Darren Ankney

On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 3:41 PM Andrey Kostin  wrote:
>
>
> Hello, Kea users,
>
> A quick question: is there a way to set a delay for DHCPOFFER sent by
> kea-dhcp4 or kea-dhcp6 via relay to make clients to use one relay/subnet
> over another?
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrey
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