Hi Matt,
Do you have any response for Doug Hogan about commercial support for Kepler?
I'd be happy to work on getting GE signed up to CHESS for $75k/year, but
wanted to give you and the rest of the Kepler team a shot at this first.
_Christopher
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Commercial support for Kepler?
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:12:42 -0800
From: Christopher Brooks <c...@eecs.berkeley.edu>
To: Hogan, D. (GE Energy) <d.ho...@ge.com>, Matt Jones
<jo...@nceas.ucsb.edu>
Hi Doug,
My response is below:
On 12/9/11 10:01 AM, Hogan, D. (GE Energy) wrote:
Hi Chris,
I noticed on the Kepler site it says you are planning on paid support at
some point in the future. Do you know when that would be and what that
would entail? Would that include the core Ptolemy II parts as well or
only the Kepler extensions?
Today, I demoed my work so far with Kepler for an internal team and I
think it was well received. I'm not finished with my prototype yet but
there are some lingering questions that some people have. I think it
would be easier for people to consider going to an open source project
rather than a commercial/proprietary tool if there was an option to
purchase support and fund development.
I've cc'd Matt Jones, who has more of a leadership role with Kepler than
I do.
I'm funded by the Ptolemy project, but volunteer for the Kepler project
and am on the Kepler leadership team.
Offhand, I don't know of a Kepler paid support program, but Matt might
know more.
The Ptolemy project gladly accepts changes to the Ptolemy II sources,
though they do need to follow the Ptolemy II coding style and they need
to not negatively impact other users. In practice, the Ptolemy II team
works closely with the Kepler team on changes suggested by the Kepler team.
If Matt does not have a program, then perhaps the Ptolemy project could
provide support.
The Ptolemy project offers CHESS memberships that have included work around
Ptolemy II. Currently, National Instruments, Bosch, Thales and Toyota
are members.
Details about CHESS membership may be found at
http://chess.eecs.berkeley.edu/chess/faq/45.html
The Ptolemy project also engages in grant and contract work. In
previous email, I mentioned our work for the Air Force. This started
out as a grant but is now funded from contract money. In this context,
the difference between a grant and a contract is that grants are usual
cover broad research topics, contracts have specific deliverables. In
practice, the two can be fairly similar, for federal contracts it
depends on which pool of funds is used.
We prefer using a CHESS membership because the document is easily
negotiated. In the past we have attached Memorandums of Understanding
(MOUs) that describe the work for the coming year. Negotiating a grant
or contract can take a very long time because of workload problems with
the Berkeley Business office.
_Christopher
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