Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-31 Thread Sam Hartman
I'd prefer client MAY mutual auth rather than client SHOULD NOT mutual auth. If the server does not implement gss-keyex then a sufficiently clever client can get some of the benefits of gss-keyex in some situations by requesting mutual. Kerberos

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Simon Wilkinson
Daniel, My personal belief is that its too late in this release cycle to make this change. As the author of the GSSAPI code in OpenSSH, I completely accept your comments - we're not (currently) RFC compliant. However, I'm aware of a number of vendors who have successfully performed interop

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Wachdorf, Daniel R
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RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Wachdorf, Daniel R
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:11 PM To: Wachdorf, Daniel R Cc: 'Sam Hartman'; 'Jeffrey Hutzelman'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OpenSSH Devel List Subject: RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, January 30, 2004 09:41:26 -0700 Wachdorf, Daniel R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The client sets this to true, not really a problem. Our modified f-secure client does the same thing. However, if GSS_C_MUTUAL_FLAG is not set, then the open ssh server rejects the connection. The following

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Wachdorf, Daniel R
; 'Darren Tucker'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSSH Devel List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes On Friday, January 30, 2004 09:41:26 -0700 Wachdorf, Daniel R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The client sets

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Ben Lindstrom
Message- From: Jeffrey Hutzelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:44 PM To: Wachdorf, Daniel R; 'Darren Tucker'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSSH Devel List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Wachdorf, Daniel R
- From: Ben Lindstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:47 PM To: Wachdorf, Daniel R Cc: 'Jeffrey Hutzelman'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OpenSSH Devel List Subject: RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Sam Hartman
Ben == Ben Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben I need someone to look at this and get back to us ASAP in Ben regards to if this will break GSSAPI-WITH-MIC. It may make some conforming clients break but does not create a security problem. Some client implementers may choose to

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Ben Lindstrom
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Wachdorf, Daniel R wrote: Well, It could be a problem. If someone has implemented a client and doesn't do ^^ mutual auth (as the standard says they should), they could be broken.

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
, 2004 4:11 PM To: Wachdorf, Daniel R Cc: 'Sam Hartman'; 'Jeffrey Hutzelman'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OpenSSH Devel List Subject: RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Wachdorf, Daniel R wrote: Well

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
(Just to pick nits... Note that this is not yet an RFC. Hopefully that will change sometime in the next few months, but at the moment it's still an internet-draft.) On Friday, January 30, 2004 16:25:34 -0700 Wachdorf, Daniel R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 - RFC also allow for gss mechanisms

RE: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-30 Thread Wachdorf, Daniel R
- From: Darren Tucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSSH Devel List Subject: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes (I hope this message is appropriate for these lists

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-26 Thread Love
Henry B. Hotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 9:07 PM +0100 1/22/04, Harald Barth wrote: I think that OpenSSL != OpenSSH. Correct. I got the install order wrong. The right order is OpenSSL, Heimdal, OpenSSH. Harald. OK, so how do you install OpenSSL with RFC 2712 support enabled? build

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-26 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:03:01 +0100, Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: lha lha Henry B. Hotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lha lha At 9:07 PM +0100 1/22/04, Harald Barth wrote: lhaI think that OpenSSL != OpenSSH. lha lha Correct. I got the install order wrong. The

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-25 Thread Harald Barth
Changes in -Portable only - (dtucker) Only enable KerberosGetAFSToken if Heimdal's libkafs is found. with jakob@ I see a potential for circular depend confusion: I need OpenSSL installed to get some libraries that Heimdal needs and I need Heimdal installed to get some libraries

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-25 Thread Harald Barth
I think that OpenSSL != OpenSSH. Correct. I got the install order wrong. The right order is OpenSSL, Heimdal, OpenSSH. Harald. Kerberos mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/kerberos

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-25 Thread Henry B. Hotz
At 9:07 PM +0100 1/22/04, Harald Barth wrote: I think that OpenSSL != OpenSSH. Correct. I got the install order wrong. The right order is OpenSSL, Heimdal, OpenSSH. Harald. OK, so how do you install OpenSSL with RFC 2712 support enabled? -- The opinions expressed in this message are mine, not

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-25 Thread Johan Danielsson
Harald Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see a potential for circular depend confusion: I need OpenSSL installed to get some libraries that Heimdal needs and I need Heimdal installed to get some libraries that OpenSSL needs? Has anyone tested this on a clean system? I think that OpenSSL !=

Re: Pending OpenSSH release: contains Kerberos/GSSAPI changes

2004-01-25 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 04:00, Harald Barth wrote: Changes in -Portable only - (dtucker) Only enable KerberosGetAFSToken if Heimdal's libkafs is found. with jakob@ I see a potential for circular depend confusion: I need OpenSSL installed to get some libraries that Heimdal needs