Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:47:28PM +0100, Fabiano FidĂȘncio wrote: > > I don't have a problem with this particular use case, it is not a > > "kernel" package, and would not be mistaken as the proper kernel in any > > sort of a real context. > > Perfect! > With this in mind, I guess we can simply

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-23 Thread Fabiano FidĂȘncio
Justin, On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:30 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 4:23 AM Sergio Lopez wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Now that libkrun, libkrunfw and krunvm have landed in openSUSE > > Tumbleweed [1], I think it's a good time to reopen this discussion. I > > also had plenty

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-23 Thread Justin Forbes
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 4:23 AM Sergio Lopez wrote: > > Hi, > > Now that libkrun, libkrunfw and krunvm have landed in openSUSE > Tumbleweed [1], I think it's a good time to reopen this discussion. I > also had plenty of time to think about it, and my thoughts are now > clearer, so please let me

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-23 Thread Fabiano FidĂȘncio
Matthew, On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:31 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:23:24AM +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > > So, for the reasons stated above, I'd would like to reopen this > > question to see if together we can find a compromise that would work > > for all of us. > >

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-23 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 3/22/21 05:23, Sergio Lopez wrote: Hi, Now that libkrun, libkrunfw and krunvm have landed in openSUSE Tumbleweed [1], I think it's a good time to reopen this discussion. I also had plenty of time to think about it, and my thoughts are now clearer, so please let me explain again why bundling

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-23 Thread Sergio Lopez
Hi, Now that libkrun, libkrunfw and krunvm have landed in openSUSE Tumbleweed [1], I think it's a good time to reopen this discussion. I also had plenty of time to think about it, and my thoughts are now clearer, so please let me explain again why bundling a custom kernel with patches is a

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:23:24AM +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > So, for the reasons stated above, I'd would like to reopen this > question to see if together we can find a compromise that would work > for all of us. This all sounds good to me. What are we blocked on? -- Matthew Miller Fedora

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2021-03-22 Thread Sergio Lopez
Hi, Now that libkrun, libkrunfw and krunvm have landed in openSUSE Tumbleweed [1], I think it's a good time to reopen this discussion. I also had plenty of time to think about it, and my thoughts are now clearer, so please let me explain again why bundling a custom kernel with patches is a

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Matthew Miller
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Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Jiri Benc
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:55:17 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 11:51:47AM +0100, Jiri Benc wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:42:32 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > > > Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels in Fedora? > > > > Based

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Sergio Lopez
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 11:51:47AM +0100, Jiri Benc wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:42:32 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > > Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels in Fedora? > > Based on what you described, I'd say no? OK. Thanks for your prompt response.

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Jiri Benc
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:42:32 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels in Fedora? Based on what you described, I'd say no? Jiri ___ kernel mailing list -- kernel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Sergio Lopez
within the security boundary of the VMM/VM, and the > > latter under the security context of the original application (in > > fact, a stricter context with a better seccomp profile). > > I don't think that downplaying security issues i

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Jiri Benc
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:50:53 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > Let me clear here, there's absolutely no intention of keeping things > downstream, but there may be changes that won't be accepted upstream > because they only make sense for this particular use case. If they are not accepted upstream,

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Sergio Lopez
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:09:04AM +0100, Jiri Benc wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 21:56:55 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > > The intention is to keep the gap as small as possible by trying > > to upstream all changes. Probably there will be a some of them that > > won't make upstream, but those will

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-13 Thread Jiri Benc
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 21:56:55 +0100, Sergio Lopez wrote: > The intention is to keep the gap as small as possible by trying > to upstream all changes. Probably there will be a some of them that > won't make upstream, but those will be super-small changes (such as > not complaining loudly if init

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-12 Thread Sergio Lopez
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 01:18:21PM -0600, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:38 AM Sergio Lopez wrote: > > > > (This message was originally sent to the Packaging mailing list, where > > Jason Tibbitts pointed that this is a restriction requested by the > > Kernel team, and it'll be

Re: Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-12 Thread Justin Forbes
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:38 AM Sergio Lopez wrote: > > (This message was originally sent to the Packaging mailing list, where > Jason Tibbitts pointed that this is a restriction requested by the > Kernel team, and it'll be your opinion the one that will prevail here) > > Hi, > > The document

Is it acceptable to package non-bootable kernels?

2020-11-12 Thread Sergio Lopez
(This message was originally sent to the Packaging mailing list, where Jason Tibbitts pointed that this is a restriction requested by the Kernel team, and it'll be your opinion the one that will prevail here) Hi, The document "What can be packaged" from "Fedora Packaging Guidelines", in the