[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
** Changed in: linux Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Bug watch added: gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/issues #44 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/issues/44 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in Linux: Unknown Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Currently experiencing this bug a year after the last comment (#81). I have no problem going full screen when playing Flash/HTML5 streaming videos, but when I run fullscreen, for example, PPSSPP (PSP emulator) on Ubuntu 16.04 either SDL or Qt versions, screen freezes completly with the exception of the mouse pointer. I can press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to terminal emulator to login and excute reboot, or press Ctrl+Alt+F7 and switch back to frozen screen with mouse pointer. Sometimes, streaming videos at fullscreen freeze. System Info. --- Phoronix Test Suite v6.4.0 Hardware: Processor: Intel Core i3-3110M @ 2.40GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: LENOVO, Chipset: Intel 3rd Gen Core DRAM, Memory: 6144MB, Disk: 500GB Seagate ST500LT012-9WS14, Graphics: Intel HD 4000 (1000MHz), Audio: Conexant CX20757, Network: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8172 Fast + Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Software: OS: Ubuntu 16.04, Kernel: 4.7.2-040702-generic (x86_64), Desktop: Unity 7.4.0, Display Server: X Server 1.18.3, Display Driver: intel 2.99.917, OpenGL: 3.3 Mesa 12.1.0-devel, Compiler: GCC 5.4.0 20160609, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1366x768 --- Active Graphics Related Repos --- Vulkan tools and drivers (“Canonical X.org” team) http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-x/vulkan/ubuntu http://ppa.launchpad.net/oibaf/graphics-drivers/ubuntu http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu Intel Graphics drivers https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/15.10/main --- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in Linux: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Just tested booting and installing my iBook G4 with Ubuntu MATE 15.10 daily. It booted from DVD using only 'live' and the install completed successfully. Some PowerPC related bugs have been fixed this cycle: * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1471185 * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source/+bug/1274167 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in Linux: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
I experienced this bug as well. I did not run ubiquity, I ran firefox and it froze after a few moments. The screen is frozen, and the mouse cursor is stuck with the same cursor. This was done using: Lubuntu 14.04.2 (testing) On a: powerbook4_3 (iBook 2 rev. 2) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Workarounds exist, so low. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
@Adam sadly, yes. But it now should be clear with the existing workarounds that's not necessary for future releases. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Can you run the same system in live mode? If so, open a terminal and file a bug against ubiquity explaining exactly what happened. Make sure you include the version of the kernel. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Boris Reinhard reinhard.bo...@googlemail.com wrote: @Adam sadly, yes. But it now should be clear with the existing workarounds that's not necessary for future releases. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu Packages Team, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Collaboration is the new innovation (Istimsak Abdulbasir, 2013) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Launchpad has imported 32 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55745. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2012-10-07T20:59:31+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Created attachment 68230 cpuinfo, free, lspci Hardware: G3 Apple iBook, second gen. fedora 18 version of the radeon driver. Downstream version is xorg-x11 -drv-ati-7.0.0-0.6.20120910git7c7f27756.fc18.ppc. X starts up as normal first, but there is color distortions on gtk or xlib based widgets. Light Qt apps seem to work all right if the system is not pushed too hard. Example, Qterminal may stay for a few hours, but starting a web browser makes X crash in a few seconds. After a crash, xdm restarts X, but now, the colors all have strange extra yellow tint. Attachements: dmesg from boot till Xorg starts misbehaving. Some system info, and Xorg.0.log. Ingvar Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/0 On 2012-10-07T21:00:17+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Created attachment 68231 dmesg from boot til X starts misbehave Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/1 On 2012-10-07T21:00:43+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Created attachment 68232 X log Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/2 On 2012-10-08T15:37:52+00:00 Michel-daenzer wrote: X starts up as normal first, but there is color distortions on gtk or xlib based widgets. Light Qt apps seem to work all right if the system is not pushed too hard. Example, Qterminal may stay for a few hours, but starting a web browser makes X crash in a few seconds. Does booting with radeon.agpmode=1 or radeon.agpmode=-1 on the kernel command line help? BTW, it looks like the attached Xorg.0.log is from after xdm restarted X? Can you also attach the log file from the first X server? It should be there as Xorg.0.log.old after xdm restarted X. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/3 On 2012-10-08T23:31:43+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Booted with radeon.agpmode=1. Worked as before until I tried to start a few apps. Xorg.0.log with stacktrace, and new kernel messages attached. Ingvar Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/4 On 2012-10-08T23:32:24+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Created attachment 68301 Kernel messages when radeon driver crashes Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/5 On 2012-10-08T23:33:31+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Created attachment 68302 Xorg.0.log with stacktrace when radeon crashes Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/6 On 2012-10-09T05:09:59+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: More or less same results with radeon.agpmode=-1 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/7 On 2012-10-09T13:40:35+00:00 Michel-daenzer wrote: (In reply to comment #7) More or less same results with radeon.agpmode=-1 Please attach the dmesg output from booting with that. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/8 On 2012-10-09T20:00:02+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Created attachment 68355 dmesg with radeon.agpmode=-1 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/9 On 2012-11-28T00:10:02+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Updated to xorg-x11-drv-ati-7.0.0-0.6.20120910git7c7f27756.fc18.ppc on kernel-3.6.6-3.fc18.ppc. Same results as before. Might add that except for the radeon driver, the iBook is stable. Running X apps, even gtk and qt apps, works fine via X-forwarding over ssh, and in a VNC session. Ingvar Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/comments/10 On 2013-02-27T07:56:00+00:00 Ingvar-j wrote: Recompiled xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.14.4-6.20120602git930760942.fc17, reenabling ums (the fedora package has a patch that disables ums), and booted with nomodeset.
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #55745 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55745 ** Also affects: linux via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55745 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Unknown Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
@hamish have you tried this: radeon.modeset=1 video=radeonfb:off video=offb:off radeon.agpmode=-1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
I'm a total novice but I have encountered these issues and for what it's worth these are the machine specs and solutions that I have used... Hardware: Mac Mini PPC G4 (PowerPC 7447A @ 1250.00MHz) Radeon 9200 When running: Lubuntu 14.04.1 With: video=radeonfb: 1024x768-32@60 Result: running fine (no freeze) but with sluggish GUI i.e. slow window drag When running: Lubuntu 14.10 With: video=radeonfb: 1024x768-32@60 Result: sluggish window drag and now freezing issue with only mouse cursor movement With: video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 Result: sluggish window drag but no more freezing issue I haven't tried anything xorg.conf related as I consider this system currently in a usable state. I did go through the motions of the xorg.conf stuff under 14.04.1 but didn't changed anything as I have no idea what I would change. As I said, total novice. I would be happy to try something and report the results if someone would give me some direction. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
This is caused by the radeonfb kernel module being now compiled as a module, rather than being 'built-in' to the kernel. It's hard to see where/when/why this change happened in Ubuntu, but it probably came from an upstream kernel change https://bugs.debian.org/cgi- bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748398 . A bit of history: The radeonfb module was purposefully builtin on Ubuntu PPC to break KMS (as it would cause freezing like above) and also, radeonfb is necessary for suspend. UMS was removed entirely from the radeon xorg driver in 12.10, and people have in fact been using the fbdev xorg driver (which uses radeonfb) by default. For most users, KMS works if forcing pci mode (agpmode=-1), however Lubuntu-qa had an eMac user at the time of 12.10 who couldn't use radeon KMS (black screen), and so if the switch was made to CONFIG_FB_RADEON=m then he would have had to fail the ISOs. The kernel configuration of framebuffers/KMS has hence remained the same from 12.04-14.04 It is not very helpful to mix up 14.04 and 14.10 as has been done in the confusing discussion above. The kernel configs are different and the default xorg driver will be different. Necessary boot parameters will be different. The described freezing bug with radeon KMS under PowerPC has been present for years and has been reported many times. However, the actual cause is not known, and those who may have the knowledge to fix it don't have the hardware or time to devote to a solution. Forcing pci mode remains the only workaround to get the radeon xorg driver working on most machines. Testing the vivid desktop/live ISO today, I couldn't use radeonfb even following previoulsy working methods for framebuffer modules (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2079873p=12336938#post12336938 ). It seems video=offb:off doesn't work anymore, although I don't know why. Also, I note 'nomodeset' doesn't work. You have to use radeon.modeset=0 to turn off KMS. Using fbdev with the openfirmware framebuffer (offb) is not an option because of the very limited number of colours. Despite all this, building radeonfb as a module is probably the best thing to do nowadays, but it will make it harder for some users. So how can we improve things? Well, changing the boot.msg on ISOs would be good! Currently it says: If the system fails to boot at all (the typical symptom is a white screen that doesn't go away), use 'live video=ofonly' Where this came from has been lost by the sands of time, but it doesn't relate to any PowerPC mac these days and hasn't been good advice since, well 10.04, and possibly before that. Now that framebuffers are modules (that are blacklisted), the boot parameter video=ofonly in fact does nothing. IT HAS TO BE CHANGED as it is just wasting people's time. It would be far better to point users to the troubleshooting section of the PowerPC wiki pages: wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Troubleshooting ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #748398 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748398 ** Package changed: linux (Ubuntu) = ubuntu ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Package changed: ubuntu = ubuntu-cdimage -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in Ubuntu CD image build software: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
As I understand it, changing the help message does nothing to eliminate the hang that was reported in this bug, and that requires a change to the kernel module behavior on ppc. Please file a separate bug report for the help message text. ** Project changed: ubuntu-cdimage = linux ** Project changed: linux = linux (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Why is doing anything on launchpad always a battle? This is not going to be fixed in the linux kernel or the radeon xorg driver. Never ever ever ever. It is just a waste of time to pretend it will. The only way to fix this is to force pci mode. The only way to tell users to do this is through a boot message. I give up. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Ok. I see the Ubuntu FAQ. I thought before that it may have been abandoned or outdated. Also, perhaps linux was the wrong package here for the bug. I was aiming for a fix in the utility on the CD that boots the kernel. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Walter and Boris, the video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 work-around allows installation to complete on my hardware. The installed system even boots to the desktop. If forgot to test it on the 2014-11-08 image but remembered for the 2014-11-09 image -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Thx for the feedback Lars, I think we can call it on the bug Walter, so far nobody else has come forward with anything that suggests otherwise. Where would we propose to implement those params to be set as default for the specific systems in future builds/ releases, would a post to the ppc list be in order and would you do that Walter? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
One thing to look into is how much the video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 settings slow down the GUI. Some things, such as clicking on an icon, are quite sluggish but I don't know how to find where the fault lies. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
I believe this is due to incomplete or not at all set up Xorg conf which for some reason is not done for a long time on certain Radeon systems, so those are without DRI and all the bells and whistles. Did you try what I mentioned above? sudo service lightdm stop sudo Xorg -configure sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [Here some driver options could be set, eg. uncomment pageflip and set it to True, save any edits and after that reboot] sudo shutdown -r now After a reboot you can check your acceleration with the commands glxinfo and glxgears -info if it works you will notice the gears running well even if quickly moving it's window but likely lubuntu gui will otherwise remain kinda slow but should be better. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
known ppc radeon 9000-range AGP-freeze issue, needs radeon.agpmode=-1 yaboot param workaround, additionally combination with video=ofonly is recommended ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Boris, it's still a bug until the installer adds those boot options and the installed system ends up with them in yaboot.conf ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Thanks Lars, still learning the ropes with this, from Walters response I gathered we could call it, but I'm glad we can work the installer defaults in, makes more sense that way and I expressed as much on the bug, was just not sure if this should be left open all the way. Am 11.11.2014 05:45 schrieb Lars Noodén lars.noo...@gmail.com: Boris, it's still a bug until the installer adds those boot options and the installed system ends up with them in yaboot.conf ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Thanks Lars, still learning the ropes with this, from Walters response I gathered we could call it, but I'm glad we can work the installer defaults in, makes more sense that way and I expressed as much in my comments above, was just not sure if this should be left open all the way, but yeah makes more sense. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Actually, Boris was right. Lars I recommend you read the PPC FAQ. The graphics section makes it quite clear that there's no mechanism in place to determine the appropriate graphics settings for your particular hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Configure_graphics Furthermore, if such a mechanism could exist, PPC is ultimately unsupported. We, as the Lubuntu community, are supporting it, but we don't have the resources to dedicate to innovating for PPC. Lastly, keep in mind that what works for Radeon might create problems for Nvidia. That being said, really, if we have a workaround, it's fixed. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Hi Walter, yep not default for every kind of ppc system, only for those specific G4 ibook's with the radeon 9200 variant, tho eMacs with those would also seems like a save bet-!? Sry I haven't yet gotten around to the FAQ/ Known Issues addition but I plan on spending some time on it tomorrow :) For everyone else reading up on this I figured I should post our conclusion so far here as well: 1. yaboot params don't seem to stick/ carry over from live-boot initiated installations (intentionally?? for many mac users this would probably be unexpected and result in what I'd like to describe as wtf I already had the correct params set why doesn't it work as expected and be cause for confusion as the needed workarounds to make it work would not be actually used anymore while still assumed to be in use, so likely cause for seemingly not working out of the box Question: what can be done about that or is pointing to more detailed Information on that and the actual params needed the only available course of action or can those params be set default out of the box on affected system configurations? 2. Radeon 9200/ RV 280 (M9+) chips on the PowerBook6,5 (ibook G4, 12' inch, 1.2 GHz) and also likely similar ibook and eMac Radeon 9000 range of chips for some reason won't work reliable on Radeon-KMS with AGP transfer enabled, so those need radeon.agpmode=-1 no idea if it's a flaw in the way Apple implemented AGP on these ibooks or in combination with an expectation of the driver on how AGP is supposed to be implemented, or simply some bug, but it won't work at the moment and causes the freeze issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878 3. using the older framebuffer params in any way on top of things causes conflicts with KMS which even with radeon.agpmode=-1 set would cause UI/ GUI issues like incomplete loading or nonfuctional UI/ GUI, so we additionally would need video=ofonly here and should not try to additionally use any combination of eg. radeonfb (which quite a few older workaround instructions might confusingly suggest and result in the user having any variation of params but not only the above 2 he or she would need to make it work) 4. with video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 those ibooks would boot and be useable prefectly fine BUT there will be sluggish feeling 2D/ gui/ windows moving and no accel at all which would be the result of not having Xorg properly configured/ detecting the chip and using the appropriate driver out of the box which also would have to be initiated manually at this point: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video- ati/+bug/1058641 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1366556 to fix from a booted Installation: sudo service lightdm stop sudo Xorg -configure sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [Here some driver options could be set, eg. uncomment pageflip and set it to True, save any edits and after that reboot] sudo shutdown -r now --- Grüße boris -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Is there anyone that video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 doesn't work for? If not, then we can call this invalid. Unfortunately, these parameters are not appropriate to every kind of ppc machine, so it doesn't make sense to make them the default. We just kind of have to know this stuff. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
do you guys have this problem in 14.04.1? @wxl: To answer that question, yes, the problem of the desktop freezing is happening in my G4 iBook with 14.04.1 installed. Opening web browser seems to freeze the desktop in and of itself. I can open the Terminal and run commands; but, for instance, last night I was trying to apport-collect 1058641 for the radeon regression bug . . . each time the browser opened for me to give permissions on LP . . . system froze. Tried to log in to LP first and then run the Terminal command, but, it brought me back to the browser anyway . . . back into the ice. System was installed using Boris/Adam's agpmode=-1that worked to clean up the 14.10 GUI . . . and I've tried various flavors of radeonfb boot parameters . . . problem continues. Yesterday I ran sudo Xorg -configure . . . and generated an xorg.conf file . . . it does show radeon as the driver, along with a bunch of other stuff . . . rebooted . . . no difference. I had 14.04 installed before and I used the video=radeonfb: 1024x768-32@60 params, and dragging windows was jerky and sluggish, no revive from suspend . . . but it did work . . . did something change for the worse in the kernel . . . or using agp mode gets me a better GUI for resolution . . . but creates the freeze problem that was in 14.10 . . . over in 14.04? Don't know if shrinking down the xorg.conf file as per Adam S's bug report will do anything, or, somehow trying to change out of the agp stipulation . . . or doing a reinstall using the radeonfb params would get around this rather serious problem as far as using 14.04 goes F -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
System was installed using Boris/Adam's agpmode=-1that worked to clean up the 14.10 GUI . . . and I've tried various flavors of radeonfb boot parameters . . . - don't! My understanding was using radeonfb conflicts with KMS which we want to use nowadays, so try to leave it out and instead use only video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 Yesterday I ran sudo Xorg -configure . . . and generated an xorg.conf file . . . it does show radeon as the driver, along with a bunch of other stuff . . . rebooted . . . no difference. - Did you move it to it's right place via sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
As per Boris' suggestion: Boris: Yes, that did work . . . but, I had to add live-nosplash-powerpc video+ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 . . . . When I just used the video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 I got unable to open file, Invalid device. With that AGP boot parameter the 14.10 livedvd it is working; window dragging isn't exactly smooth, but it follows the mouse and no freezes . . . it's fine. It got me into a clean GUI with the proper display refresh rates showing (as opposed to having to use the radeonfb w/ 1024x768-32@60 parameters) and for the most part everything worked; certainly the GUI did not freeze like it did when using those radeonfb parameters. Only problem with AGP was that setting the time did not hold in manual and synching with internet servers did not work. Otherwise, for my iBook G4 with radeon driver . . . it worked. My build for the LiveDVD is 10/16/14 (American system) . . . didn't check any more recent builds since several of us found this freezing desktop problem . . . and the general languishing of intention to support PPC, etc. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Sorry, live-nosplash-powerpc video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Hello all, @Walter I did encounter this in 14.04.1 as well it works if I force PCI mode via yaboot radeon.agpmode=-1 (which I thought was the expected workaround for an unknown issue with AGP and the user would be expected to use it) While on my system with a 9200 based chip under OSX it's listed as AGP 4x I vaguely remember Apple once only listing a similar chip as AGP supported without them actually having it implemented that way (if that would make sense? but I think it was with the even older Rage 128 series if I recall correctly) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
so I quess the question might be what changed, did AGP work before, was there no hardware acceleration, was PCI transfer maybe temporarily forced? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
FWIW, when I've complained in the past about endian issues with the radeon drivers on PPC, the upstream response has often been we know it's broken on big-endian arches, patches welcome, or go buy an nvidia card. So, this may prove to be a lost cause without someone with the time and expertise to dive in. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Based on the syslog vomit, this is almost certainly a kernel bug (or possibly an X bug). Reassigning in that direction for now. ** Package changed: ubiquity (Ubuntu) = linux (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
@adam does this affect all ppc radeon cards? if so, that kills a lot of computers we wanted to support! can you link me to archives of your upstream inquiries? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Tags added: kernel-da-key -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
@wxl: I sent this to QA . . . but, right, this is the bug . . . that my iBook found earlier in the month, and then again a few days ago. What I didn't mention was what Lars also mentioned, when the mouse cursor clenches to drag the window . . . it doesn't unclench. But, it is a deal breaker in terms of running 14.10 on the iBook . . . getting that the devs don't seem too concerned, but unlikely that I would take the time to change the video card from radeon to something else . . . . =from the other day: Ran the 14.10 ppc live 10/16/14 Alpha powerpc iso this AM . . . briefly. But, on my iBook G4 w/640+-MB RAM . . . had to use the radeon fb boot parameters, booting with live does not work . . . in any event, when I got to the desktop the first thing I wanted to check was the window dragging issue that has been a problem for awhile . . . even 14.04 is not too outstanding. However, launching FF the window opens . . . bottom left says transferring data . . . which went on for several minutes . . . could not enter Gmail in the searchbar window . . . then found that I could do nothing anywhere else . . . DE frozen . . . I think I filed a bug about this in a recent test??? Rebooted back, and tried the menu, which opened . . . I then opened the File manager . . . clicking on stuff in the window . . . did not succeed . . . DE again Frozen . . . only way out is shut down. I'll try to get to the QA tracker thing, but, really seems like I've been here before . . . the things I've found as issues . . . remain. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
do you guys have this problem in 14.04.1? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
