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Status: Triaged => Fix Released
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Sorry for the confusion,
*I asked*
I have a couple of questions about your Sony Vaio with Pentium M:
What happens when you try to boot a PAE kernel with forcepae? Do you get
an error message? Black screen?
Are you sure it is not 'only' a problem with some other hardware,
The vast majority of Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs are suitable for
fakepae or forcepae and can work with PAE kernels. But some of these
processors need a non-pae kernel.
We found a Pentium M 1.70 GHz which does not work with forcepae. It
gives the following output from
cpuid|grep ^0001
We found a Pentium M 1.70 GHz which does not work with forcepae. It gives the
following output from
cpuid|grep ^0001
0001 06d6 0816 0180 afe9fbbf
What happens when you try to boot with forcepae? Do you get an error
message? Black screen?
In the wiki you have
Hi Chris,
1. It is not my computer. I have one with a very similar Pentium M CPU
which works with forcepae. I have asked the same questions but not yet
received a full answer from the owner. I will ask again ...
2. Thanks for finding the difference between the cpuid flags a7e9fbbf
and afe9fbbf
please try lubuntu/xubunu on such old hardware
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tried the ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso on my Lenovo E600A with
[--forcepae] parameter.
I seemed successfully installed.
But the desktop showed me slowly just as a slow-motion video :-(
Maybe the forcepae caused that problem.
I doubt it, a more likely cause is that you don't have 3D
Ｉtried the ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso on my Lenovo E600A with [--forcepae]
parameter.
I seemed successfully installed.
But the desktop showed me slowly just as a slow-motion video :-(
Maybe the forcepae caused that problem.
Hope David Henningsson can provide us another
Hey guys,
So, I was looking for Ubuntu because Win Xp is not supported anymore. I
carefully readed everything here, but i have no clue how i could fix my problem.
Can please someone explain what i have to do, in a language that a
noob like me can understand? I never did anything with linux.
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Hi Luis,
Now that I have got into it I might do this if I feel the need to
upgrade to the latest greatest version - so, thanks for the howto.
Unfortunately I am afraid that many disenfranchised Win XP users will
not fiddle around like this (or even read this thread to find how to).
It's a pity
This may not have been a burning issue in the past but, with Win XP
going unsupported, there are many Celeron/Pentium M processor systems
(concurrent with Win XP). that are now looking for easy solutions. I am
in exactly that position and have never touched any flavour of Linux
before. I needed
@l-colin,
14.04 works flawlessly in Celeron/Pentium M processor systems. You just need to
add forcepae do the kernel command line (at boot)
On a livecd, press anykey as soon as it loads (the first purple screen). Use
the F6 option to add the forcepae. You'll have something like:
...initrd.lz
a todos: Gracias por la ayuda!
Stan
On Tue, April 8, 2014 1:03 pm, Luiz Angelo Daros de Luca wrote:
@l-colin,
14.04 works flawlessly in Celeron/Pentium M processor systems. You just
need to add forcepae do the kernel command line (at boot)
On a livecd, press anykey as soon as it loads (the
Good news, the forcepae patch got added to the upstream kernel source:
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?id=69f2366c9456d0ce784cf5aba87ee77eeadc1d5e
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oh, apparently kubuntu daily-build was a little bit behind, i did
only check ubuntu and lubuntu and did not expect, that kubuntu iso
apparently did not have the most recent kernel.
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Yeah Thank you devs, thank you Roland, thank you Chris and all of you.
Ok, now I'm gonna try and download the iso...
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This is absolutly amasing news guyes, had lost any hope that this status
on this bug would ever change. Thankyou to the most persistent advocats
arguing this bug should be solved, and not least to Chris and others
involved in figuring out howto...
After reciving these great news, the first thing
Restarded the R51 and added the kernel forcepae parameter to the syslinux
parameter line.
Things looked excactly the same as so often before, installing any sort of
12.04 ubuntu flavors.
but the old syslinux original of this bug still persist right ?.
No, it shouldn`t.
If booted via syslinux
@roland #291
Booting Kubuntu Trusty from either USB or DVD (Kubuntu 700MB):
Daily ISO 2014.03.06 = Kernel: Linux kubuntu 3.13.0-15-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP
= not working
Daily ISO 2014.03.07 = Kernel: Linux kubuntu 3.13.0-16-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP
= working (without grub BL)
I'm very sorry
this is really good news, thanks!
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apparently, the trusty-tahr daily build cd-images already contain the
fixed kernel, so if you have an affected system and want to try
installing (l/x)ubuntu you can get them here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
Now it is time for me to say thank you :-)
First of all, *I want to thank everybody contributing* to solving this
bug, or complex of bugs, concerning Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs and new
Ubuntu based kernels.
Then I want to mention roland aus köln (devzero-c), who continued
pushing this issue
one thing to add - on lubuntu iso i just tested, entering a kernel param
at boot/installation-time does not seem to find it`s way into grub.cfg -
so it needs to be re-added after installation.
since i´m not a long-time ubuntu user, i`m unsure if this a bug or by
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@Chris -- I have taken the liberty of cleaning up the commentary on
those two patches and applying them to a 14.04 kernel for testing. You
might want to do something similar (feel free to steal the text I used
and clean it up) and then submit the patches together to upstream for
consideration; as
works for me.
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Works in my IBM Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M without a PAE flag but with
PAE capability.
But I have only booted via grub, because I cannot remaster an iso file.
Did you boot from syslinux, Roland?
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lkml: grub is jumping to the 32-bit entry point and skipping the entire
real mode setup code. Bad grub.
You don't need to build a syslinux bootable iso. You can boot the kernel
from Grub in 16-bit mode by using the linux16 command
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/linux16.html
Thanks Chris :-)
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Thank you Brian, Chris and everyone sudodus and everyone involved.
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On Mar 3, 2014 8:55 PM, sudodus nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote:
ERROR: PAE is disabled on this Pentium M
(PAE can potentially be enabled with kernel parameter
forcepae - this is unsupported, may cause
According to the discussion on LKML, linux16 is now the default on
Fedora, and should be used by other distributions.
i installed fedora20 for a test and so did hpa, and for both of us, the
result is different from what is being told:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=139380554401194w=2
i do
i just tested your patch on ubuntu 13.10 with kernel from 14.04
repository (complete package build)
works like a charm!
i would recommend adding the newly introduced param to to Documentation
/kernel-parameters.txt , see my patch at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447/comments/224
There were *very* strong signals that the board, deciding about the
main-stream ubuntu edition, had decided to stop supporting non-pae CPUs
including Pentium M amd Celeron M, and that the decision was not going
to be changed.
You think that fake-PAE has been counter-productive, that it has done
I'm reprinting what I wrote in comment #105 because it is still so very
easy to install PAE, though it does require a little effort.
1) Download ISO of ubuntu flavor you wish to use, for example, xubuntu. I wil
use the name xubuntu.iso, for convenience.
2) partition and format USB stick, in this
please let`s stop discussion as any further discussion does not add
anything valuable to the solution.
i think 272 comments (=thousands of lines of text) is enough discussion
for a problem which can be entirely fixed for everyone by some kernel
developer adding 22 lines of code to the linux
good news, thanks !
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+1
(good news, thanks)
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dear ubuntu kernel team, please consider adding the patch from
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/26/192 to the ubuntu kernel, so the pae
issue will be fixed with 14.04
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I am not a dev, not a skilled programmer, but only a loyal and satisfied ubuntu
user since I switched from Suse to Dapper Drake 6.06 on my deprecated Pentium M.
This old and poor notebook have seen also Windows XP, Windows Vista and now it
can also run Windows 7 with not much pretends. I decided
Luke, thanks for letting us know and for the credits.
What you write is exactly the reason why i spent my free time on help
fixing this and it`s also the reason, why i was constantly nagging here
- and why i was (or still am, as it`s not fixed yet) very dissapointed,
too.
I hope that ubuntu will
Thanks again Roland for spending your time into this...I read the mails
on LKML, and since I don't know how it works (I am only a simple user) I
am asking...have we got more chances now to see this problem fixed
somewhere in the future or am I hoping for something that could never
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I know about lubuntu fake pae, and upgrading from 12.04 is one of the
options. By the way, this is not the point.. And what about if someone
needs Xubuntu or something else running out of the box? And when 14.04
will be released, there will be a lubuntu fake pae version? These are
all workarounds
All the main Ubuntu flavours of version 13.10 are available as tarballs
to be installed with the One Button Installer,
ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2172971
and this works with Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs. Experimental Trusty
tarballs are already uploaded,
i read experimental in those links - and i think there are people who
dislike installing their operating system in a re-packaged way from a
community based, untrusted source. nothing against you, nio, you appear
trustworthy - but i`m one of those.
if all the community efforts had been put into
LKML thread: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/25/18
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May be one-hundred-papercuts is the right place if
you feel a bug doesn't get enough attention foralongtime.
kernel specific bugs are excluded - see
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Papercuts
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Status: Invalid = Confirmed
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** Tags added: trusty
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hi there!
reverted bug-status back to confirmed. There are other bug-statii like
opinion, incomplete, fix released, fix commited
Non of these reflect the situation, neither. The bug-report is valid
since a lot of users have confirmed it's existance.
May be one-hundred-papercuts is the right
May be one-hundred-papercuts is the right place if you feel a bug
doesn't get enough attention foralongtime.
that`s a pointer, thanks.
Another valuable thought is that one cannot blame the ubuntu-people
solely for not getting this right
yes, for sure intel also is to blame, but when the ubuntu
bugticket closed, as ubuntu team is ignorant and will not fix this. sad
but true.
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Roland,
Thanks for trying.
In 2012 an Ubuntu developer made a private version of 12.04 with PAE
support, so I am still using Ubuntu with my old laptop.
The Ubuntu team has people who could fix this the right way, but as you
said, they are lazy.
Stan
On Wed, February 12, 2014 4:39 pm, roland
they are probably putting the focus on the wrong things and/or are
understaffed.
i will not use ubuntu anymore because of this, because ubuntu does not
satisfy my expectation of a healty user and developer community.
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more than one and a half months gone by and nothing happened.
14.04 will be out soon, and i swear it will still have that pentium M
issue.
i don`t know what you 101 guys will do, but i have one task on my todo:
wiping all computers in our fablab and replacing lubuntu with a linux
distro w/o
No further progress ?
ubuntu/lubuntu/xubunto 14.04 co will soon get off the starting blocks
- i heard it will also be a LTS.
And all of those still being shipped with a known problem affecting
thousands of users ?
Please, Ubuntu team put an hour effort into this, this would save much
hassle
adding to the list:
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400MHz 0695 0812 A7E9F9BF
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400Mhz 06D6 0812 AFE9F9BF
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1500MHz 0695 0812 A7E9F9BF
Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1300MHz 0695
Roland,
1. Thanks for keeping this issue alive :-)
2. We have evidence that these two CPUs also have PAE capability but no
PAE flag:
Celeron M 1200 Mhz 0001 0695 0812 a7e9f9bf
Celeron M 1300 MHz 0001 0695 0812 a7e9f9bf
Best regards
Nio
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Here is my full cpuinfo, Pentium-M 2.1 GHz not having the PAE flag,
happily running a PAE kernel.
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 13
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.10GHz
stepping: 6
microcode : 0x18
cpu
Hi Oliver,
That is the fastest Pentium M without a PAE flag reported yet in this
project :-) Please post also the short output of the following command
line,
cpuid|grep ^0001
Best regards
Nio
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I think so too [that the faster ones with 133 MHz FSB (533 MHz transfer
rate) actually do report PAE].
Thank you for that cpuid line! I'll upload it into the list at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE#Test
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With Ubuntu 13.10 it has become a mess. I tried to install it 4 times on
my notebook now. It would go through the complete installation process
and only at the end suddenly the kernel failed to install. I thought I
may have connectivity problems at first. Only after manually doing a
dpkg -i on the
it`s based on information from cpu-world.com, they have a large real
world cpuid database (user submitted data).
it`s ineed not tested, but based on the infos at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE#Test i would
logically assume, that all of these behave identically. they all have
Not seeing my 2100 MHz Pentium-M (100 MHz FSB f i'm not mistaken) I'll
try to run the test sometime soon.
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hopefully, this should (hopefully) be a comprehensive list of all
affected CPU`s:
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400MHz 0695 0812 A7E9F9BF
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400Mhz 06D6 0812 AFE9F9BF
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1500MHz 0695 0812
Hi Roland,
Nice list :-) How did you compile it? Are all those CPUs tested, or are
you adding some of the CPUs versions via logical conclusions?
Best regards
Nio
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For clarity the error referred to in this bug is emitted by the kernel
from its 16bit entry point. The same check is not made when booted via
its 32bit entry point. This is arguably a bug, the kernel should check
and refuse to run when required features are not present. In this case
the main
There is a start for such a whitelist in comment #203 :-)
If *you* have a Celeron M or Pentium M different from those in that
list, please supply your result of the PAE test described in
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
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here is amore comprehensive database containing cpuid information.
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/CPUID.pl?s=21
unfortunately i have no clue how to make a whitelist from that.
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On 29 November 2013 16:22, Andy Whitcroft a...@canonical.com wrote:
For clarity the error referred to in this bug is emitted by the kernel
from its 16bit entry point. The same check is not made when booted via
its 32bit entry point. This is arguably a bug, the kernel should check
and refuse
The bug status was changed either by mistake or by a vandal.
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The patch Mageia 3 works just fine. ;-)
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Thank you for running the tests.
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Two tests were added to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
See this link for details
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113826page=3p=12729858#post12729858
For the first time a Pentium M CPU was found not suitable for fakePAE.
Our test results so far for Pentium M and
Chris, I think Shahar's idea is to submit the patch and hopefully gets
merged so that regular users don't have to remove anything to get
everything working.
But yeah, why not, submit a patch and see what happens. I am curious.
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On Jul 18, 2013 3:41 PM, oliver oli...@schinagl.nl wrote:
Chris, I think Shahar's idea is to submit the patch and hopefully gets
merged so that regular users don't have to remove anything to get
everything working.
But yeah, why not, submit a patch
A patch effort isn't necessary. The CPU check is one line of code in
kernel package preinst. Just remove that line and it goes back to
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