[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1697567] Re: something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

2020-07-21 Thread teo1978
How the fuck can this still be unfixed?

This is a critical bug that causes a computer to suddenly switch off,
loosing data, and it potentially DAMAGES HARDWARE.

This has been known for at least 3 years, nothing has been done and...
OMG I now see the importance is set to medium, who is the IDIOT that set
the importance to medium??

Is there at least a workaround? I need to force my fan to spin at the
maximum speed, since the OS is not controlling it properly and my CPU is
BURNING.


Also, this recently got worse.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, when I boot and the boot menu shows up, 
the fan used to spin much faster when the computer was hot.
That proved that either the OS, which loads afterwards, would start controlling 
the speed and keeping it too low, while during the boot menu screen the 
hardware was left uncontrolled and knew better, OR that grub used to load some 
sort of driver that did a better job than ubuntu does at controlling the fan 
speed.

Well, that doesn't happen anymore, since a recent update. Now, when my
computer gets too hot and switches itself off, or when I see it is
getting too hot and I restart it, during the boot screen the fan does
not spin faster, it goes at the same insufficient speed as it does
during normal OS operation, or even slower. I guess grub has been
updated to control the fan in the same broken way that used to only kick
in later in the boot process.

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Title:
  something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Something in Ubuntu keeps my laptop's cooler fan from going at the
  speed that would be needed to keep the temperature within its safe
  range.

  The proof that something is wrong is that the computer overheats to
  the point that, first, the CPU starts to slow down to protect itself
  (you can tell the CPU has less power because trivial processes that
  barely do any work suddenly are consuming great percentages of CPU)
  and eventually even the computer shuts down (abruptly) to prevent
  itself from burning **AND** the fan speed doesn't get even close to
  its maximum speed while all this is happening.

  Note: I keep thermald turned off because of issue 1600599. I also disabled 
intel_powerclamp and intel_rapl to rule out that they were just kicking in 
before it's actually necessary.
  This has mitigated the issue, I'm pretty sure, but it has not solved it 
completely.

  Yes, my fan is full of dust and doesn't do its job very well, but if
  that alone was the issue, the fan should reach its top speed well
  before the CPU reaches critical temperature.

  The definitive proof that the fan *can* go faster is that, when the
  computer is overheating, if I restart it, at the grub screen, the fan
  spins a lot faster. Then, as the OS boots, its speed drops. Then you
  can also hear as the speed slowly diminishes, as if it was gradually
  slowing down because it's managing to keep the temperature under
  control. Except that the temperature keeps going up.

  Even by just suspending and resuming, the fan speed gets a noticeable
  boost (not as huge as by rebooting, for some reason), which is utter
  nonsense, and then soon slows down again.

  The huge increase in fan speed at restart just before boot (note: only
  when the computer is hot) proves that not only the fan can spin faster
  than the OS lets it, but also that the hardware "KNOWS" how fast it
  should spin. Either the hardware, assuming that no driver has been
  loaded yet when presented the grub screen, or some kind of more
  primitive driver that is loaded together with grub, I don't know.
  SOMETHING does know how to control the fan speed properly, and
  something that is started during boot imposes a wrong, lower speed.

  
  I assume that the fan speed is not regulated by a simple fixed map from 
temperature values to fan speed values. That would completely explain the 
behaviour (the fan is not as efficient as it is supposed to be, hence the 
predetermined speed values function of temperature are not enough), but it 
would be incredibly stupid. Please tell me that's not the case.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic 4.4.0-79.100
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-79.100-generic 4.4.67
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  teo2826 F pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Tue Jun 13 01:49:34 2017
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=ff7e702a-a05a-47fd-8c14-551e81f9e9e3
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (1340 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 

[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1697567] Re: something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

2020-04-28 Thread Kris969
Same issue on my side with an Ubuntu 20.04 upgraded from 19.10 in the middle of 
march. At the beginning all was working fine.
Since yesterday I have exactly the same issue.

Laptop is an HP 820 G1 with Intel core I7 cPro.

Regards

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Title:
  something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Something in Ubuntu keeps my laptop's cooler fan from going at the
  speed that would be needed to keep the temperature within its safe
  range.

  The proof that something is wrong is that the computer overheats to
  the point that, first, the CPU starts to slow down to protect itself
  (you can tell the CPU has less power because trivial processes that
  barely do any work suddenly are consuming great percentages of CPU)
  and eventually even the computer shuts down (abruptly) to prevent
  itself from burning **AND** the fan speed doesn't get even close to
  its maximum speed while all this is happening.

  Note: I keep thermald turned off because of issue 1600599. I also disabled 
intel_powerclamp and intel_rapl to rule out that they were just kicking in 
before it's actually necessary.
  This has mitigated the issue, I'm pretty sure, but it has not solved it 
completely.

  Yes, my fan is full of dust and doesn't do its job very well, but if
  that alone was the issue, the fan should reach its top speed well
  before the CPU reaches critical temperature.

  The definitive proof that the fan *can* go faster is that, when the
  computer is overheating, if I restart it, at the grub screen, the fan
  spins a lot faster. Then, as the OS boots, its speed drops. Then you
  can also hear as the speed slowly diminishes, as if it was gradually
  slowing down because it's managing to keep the temperature under
  control. Except that the temperature keeps going up.

  Even by just suspending and resuming, the fan speed gets a noticeable
  boost (not as huge as by rebooting, for some reason), which is utter
  nonsense, and then soon slows down again.

  The huge increase in fan speed at restart just before boot (note: only
  when the computer is hot) proves that not only the fan can spin faster
  than the OS lets it, but also that the hardware "KNOWS" how fast it
  should spin. Either the hardware, assuming that no driver has been
  loaded yet when presented the grub screen, or some kind of more
  primitive driver that is loaded together with grub, I don't know.
  SOMETHING does know how to control the fan speed properly, and
  something that is started during boot imposes a wrong, lower speed.

  
  I assume that the fan speed is not regulated by a simple fixed map from 
temperature values to fan speed values. That would completely explain the 
behaviour (the fan is not as efficient as it is supposed to be, hence the 
predetermined speed values function of temperature are not enough), but it 
would be incredibly stupid. Please tell me that's not the case.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic 4.4.0-79.100
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-79.100-generic 4.4.67
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  teo2826 F pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Tue Jun 13 01:49:34 2017
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=ff7e702a-a05a-47fd-8c14-551e81f9e9e3
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (1340 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424)
  MachineType: Acer Aspire V3-571G
  ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-79-generic.efi.signed 
root=UUID=5830b30e-69e8-4bb4-8a2b-bc2b43c7414a ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   linux-restricted-modules-4.4.0-79-generic N/A
   linux-backports-modules-4.4.0-79-generic  N/A
   linux-firmware1.157.10
  SourcePackage: linux
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to xenial on 2016-12-11 (183 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 10/15/2012
  dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
  dmi.bios.version: V2.07
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Type2 - Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: VA50_HC_CR
  dmi.board.vendor: Acer
  dmi.board.version: Type2 - Board Version
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Acer
  dmi.chassis.version: V2.07
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAcer:bvrV2.07:bd10/15/2012:svnAcer:pnAspireV3-571G:pvrV2.07:rvnAcer:rnVA50_HC_CR:rvrType2-BoardVersion:cvnAcer:ct10:cvrV2.07:
  dmi.product.name: Aspire V3-571G
  dmi.product.version: V2.07
  dmi.sys.vendor: Acer

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[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1697567] Re: something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

2017-08-13 Thread teo1978
The importance of this bug should obviously be critical, not medium.
It meets all the criteria, plus it may even cause hardware damage.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Expired => Confirmed

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Title:
  something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Something in Ubuntu keeps my laptop's cooler fan from going at the
  speed that would be needed to keep the temperature within its safe
  range.

  The proof that something is wrong is that the computer overheats to
  the point that, first, the CPU starts to slow down to protect itself
  (you can tell the CPU has less power because trivial processes that
  barely do any work suddenly are consuming great percentages of CPU)
  and eventually even the computer shuts down (abruptly) to prevent
  itself from burning **AND** the fan speed doesn't get even close to
  its maximum speed while all this is happening.

  Note: I keep thermald turned off because of issue 1600599. I also disabled 
intel_powerclamp and intel_rapl to rule out that they were just kicking in 
before it's actually necessary.
  This has mitigated the issue, I'm pretty sure, but it has not solved it 
completely.

  Yes, my fan is full of dust and doesn't do its job very well, but if
  that alone was the issue, the fan should reach its top speed well
  before the CPU reaches critical temperature.

  The definitive proof that the fan *can* go faster is that, when the
  computer is overheating, if I restart it, at the grub screen, the fan
  spins a lot faster. Then, as the OS boots, its speed drops. Then you
  can also hear as the speed slowly diminishes, as if it was gradually
  slowing down because it's managing to keep the temperature under
  control. Except that the temperature keeps going up.

  Even by just suspending and resuming, the fan speed gets a noticeable
  boost (not as huge as by rebooting, for some reason), which is utter
  nonsense, and then soon slows down again.

  The huge increase in fan speed at restart just before boot (note: only
  when the computer is hot) proves that not only the fan can spin faster
  than the OS lets it, but also that the hardware "KNOWS" how fast it
  should spin. Either the hardware, assuming that no driver has been
  loaded yet when presented the grub screen, or some kind of more
  primitive driver that is loaded together with grub, I don't know.
  SOMETHING does know how to control the fan speed properly, and
  something that is started during boot imposes a wrong, lower speed.

  
  I assume that the fan speed is not regulated by a simple fixed map from 
temperature values to fan speed values. That would completely explain the 
behaviour (the fan is not as efficient as it is supposed to be, hence the 
predetermined speed values function of temperature are not enough), but it 
would be incredibly stupid. Please tell me that's not the case.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic 4.4.0-79.100
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-79.100-generic 4.4.67
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  teo2826 F pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Tue Jun 13 01:49:34 2017
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=ff7e702a-a05a-47fd-8c14-551e81f9e9e3
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (1340 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424)
  MachineType: Acer Aspire V3-571G
  ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-79-generic.efi.signed 
root=UUID=5830b30e-69e8-4bb4-8a2b-bc2b43c7414a ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   linux-restricted-modules-4.4.0-79-generic N/A
   linux-backports-modules-4.4.0-79-generic  N/A
   linux-firmware1.157.10
  SourcePackage: linux
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to xenial on 2016-12-11 (183 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 10/15/2012
  dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
  dmi.bios.version: V2.07
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Type2 - Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: VA50_HC_CR
  dmi.board.vendor: Acer
  dmi.board.version: Type2 - Board Version
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Acer
  dmi.chassis.version: V2.07
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAcer:bvrV2.07:bd10/15/2012:svnAcer:pnAspireV3-571G:pvrV2.07:rvnAcer:rnVA50_HC_CR:rvrType2-BoardVersion:cvnAcer:ct10:cvrV2.07:
  dmi.product.name: Aspire V3-571G
  dmi.product.version: V2.07
  dmi.sys.vendor: Acer

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[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1697567] Re: something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

2017-08-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for linux (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60
days.]

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Expired

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Title:
  something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Expired

Bug description:
  Something in Ubuntu keeps my laptop's cooler fan from going at the
  speed that would be needed to keep the temperature within its safe
  range.

  The proof that something is wrong is that the computer overheats to
  the point that, first, the CPU starts to slow down to protect itself
  (you can tell the CPU has less power because trivial processes that
  barely do any work suddenly are consuming great percentages of CPU)
  and eventually even the computer shuts down (abruptly) to prevent
  itself from burning **AND** the fan speed doesn't get even close to
  its maximum speed while all this is happening.

  Note: I keep thermald turned off because of issue 1600599. I also disabled 
intel_powerclamp and intel_rapl to rule out that they were just kicking in 
before it's actually necessary.
  This has mitigated the issue, I'm pretty sure, but it has not solved it 
completely.

  Yes, my fan is full of dust and doesn't do its job very well, but if
  that alone was the issue, the fan should reach its top speed well
  before the CPU reaches critical temperature.

  The definitive proof that the fan *can* go faster is that, when the
  computer is overheating, if I restart it, at the grub screen, the fan
  spins a lot faster. Then, as the OS boots, its speed drops. Then you
  can also hear as the speed slowly diminishes, as if it was gradually
  slowing down because it's managing to keep the temperature under
  control. Except that the temperature keeps going up.

  Even by just suspending and resuming, the fan speed gets a noticeable
  boost (not as huge as by rebooting, for some reason), which is utter
  nonsense, and then soon slows down again.

  The huge increase in fan speed at restart just before boot (note: only
  when the computer is hot) proves that not only the fan can spin faster
  than the OS lets it, but also that the hardware "KNOWS" how fast it
  should spin. Either the hardware, assuming that no driver has been
  loaded yet when presented the grub screen, or some kind of more
  primitive driver that is loaded together with grub, I don't know.
  SOMETHING does know how to control the fan speed properly, and
  something that is started during boot imposes a wrong, lower speed.

  
  I assume that the fan speed is not regulated by a simple fixed map from 
temperature values to fan speed values. That would completely explain the 
behaviour (the fan is not as efficient as it is supposed to be, hence the 
predetermined speed values function of temperature are not enough), but it 
would be incredibly stupid. Please tell me that's not the case.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic 4.4.0-79.100
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-79.100-generic 4.4.67
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  teo2826 F pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Tue Jun 13 01:49:34 2017
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=ff7e702a-a05a-47fd-8c14-551e81f9e9e3
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (1340 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424)
  MachineType: Acer Aspire V3-571G
  ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-79-generic.efi.signed 
root=UUID=5830b30e-69e8-4bb4-8a2b-bc2b43c7414a ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   linux-restricted-modules-4.4.0-79-generic N/A
   linux-backports-modules-4.4.0-79-generic  N/A
   linux-firmware1.157.10
  SourcePackage: linux
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to xenial on 2016-12-11 (183 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 10/15/2012
  dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
  dmi.bios.version: V2.07
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Type2 - Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: VA50_HC_CR
  dmi.board.vendor: Acer
  dmi.board.version: Type2 - Board Version
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Acer
  dmi.chassis.version: V2.07
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAcer:bvrV2.07:bd10/15/2012:svnAcer:pnAspireV3-571G:pvrV2.07:rvnAcer:rnVA50_HC_CR:rvrType2-BoardVersion:cvnAcer:ct10:cvrV2.07:
  dmi.product.name: Aspire V3-571G
  dmi.product.version: V2.07
  dmi.sys.vendor: Acer

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[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1697567] Re: something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

2017-06-13 Thread teo1978
I dubt this has anything to do with the kernel.

I'm not testing the upstream kernel. Please don't leave this bug in the
"incomplete" status or it will starve without anybody doing anything to
fix it.

> Did this issue start happening after an update/upgrade? 
> Was there a prior kernel version where you were not having this particular 
> problem?

I don't know. I have been observing this for years. Ages ago, however,
on another computer with Ubuntu 12.something I didn't experience the
issue, and I can tell because the fan was also old and would not do its
job very well (much worse than my current one), and it was spinning very
fast all the time as one would expect in that situation.

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Title:
  something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Something in Ubuntu keeps my laptop's cooler fan from going at the
  speed that would be needed to keep the temperature within its safe
  range.

  The proof that something is wrong is that the computer overheats to
  the point that, first, the CPU starts to slow down to protect itself
  (you can tell the CPU has less power because trivial processes that
  barely do any work suddenly are consuming great percentages of CPU)
  and eventually even the computer shuts down (abruptly) to prevent
  itself from burning **AND** the fan speed doesn't get even close to
  its maximum speed while all this is happening.

  Note: I keep thermald turned off because of issue 1600599. I also disabled 
intel_powerclamp and intel_rapl to rule out that they were just kicking in 
before it's actually necessary.
  This has mitigated the issue, I'm pretty sure, but it has not solved it 
completely.

  Yes, my fan is full of dust and doesn't do its job very well, but if
  that alone was the issue, the fan should reach its top speed well
  before the CPU reaches critical temperature.

  The definitive proof that the fan *can* go faster is that, when the
  computer is overheating, if I restart it, at the grub screen, the fan
  spins a lot faster. Then, as the OS boots, its speed drops. Then you
  can also hear as the speed slowly diminishes, as if it was gradually
  slowing down because it's managing to keep the temperature under
  control. Except that the temperature keeps going up.

  Even by just suspending and resuming, the fan speed gets a noticeable
  boost (not as huge as by rebooting, for some reason), which is utter
  nonsense, and then soon slows down again.

  The huge increase in fan speed at restart just before boot (note: only
  when the computer is hot) proves that not only the fan can spin faster
  than the OS lets it, but also that the hardware "KNOWS" how fast it
  should spin. Either the hardware, assuming that no driver has been
  loaded yet when presented the grub screen, or some kind of more
  primitive driver that is loaded together with grub, I don't know.
  SOMETHING does know how to control the fan speed properly, and
  something that is started during boot imposes a wrong, lower speed.

  
  I assume that the fan speed is not regulated by a simple fixed map from 
temperature values to fan speed values. That would completely explain the 
behaviour (the fan is not as efficient as it is supposed to be, hence the 
predetermined speed values function of temperature are not enough), but it 
would be incredibly stupid. Please tell me that's not the case.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic 4.4.0-79.100
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-79.100-generic 4.4.67
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  teo2826 F pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Tue Jun 13 01:49:34 2017
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=ff7e702a-a05a-47fd-8c14-551e81f9e9e3
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (1340 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424)
  MachineType: Acer Aspire V3-571G
  ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-79-generic.efi.signed 
root=UUID=5830b30e-69e8-4bb4-8a2b-bc2b43c7414a ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   linux-restricted-modules-4.4.0-79-generic N/A
   linux-backports-modules-4.4.0-79-generic  N/A
   linux-firmware1.157.10
  SourcePackage: linux
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to xenial on 2016-12-11 (183 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 10/15/2012
  dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
  dmi.bios.version: V2.07
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Type2 - Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: VA50_HC_CR
  dmi.board.vendor: Acer
  dmi.board.version: Type2 - Board Version
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  

[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1697567] Re: something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

2017-06-13 Thread Joseph Salisbury
Did this issue start happening after an update/upgrade?  Was there a
prior kernel version where you were not having this particular problem?

Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel? Refer
to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Please test the latest
v4.12 kernel[0].

If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following
tag 'kernel-fixed-upstream'.

If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the tag:
'kernel-bug-exists-upstream'.

Once testing of the upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug as
"Confirmed".


Thanks in advance.

[0] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.12-rc5


** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

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Title:
  something prevents the cooler fan from spinning as fast as needed

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  Something in Ubuntu keeps my laptop's cooler fan from going at the
  speed that would be needed to keep the temperature within its safe
  range.

  The proof that something is wrong is that the computer overheats to
  the point that, first, the CPU starts to slow down to protect itself
  (you can tell the CPU has less power because trivial processes that
  barely do any work suddenly are consuming great percentages of CPU)
  and eventually even the computer shuts down (abruptly) to prevent
  itself from burning **AND** the fan speed doesn't get even close to
  its maximum speed while all this is happening.

  Note: I keep thermald turned off because of issue 1600599. I also disabled 
intel_powerclamp and intel_rapl to rule out that they were just kicking in 
before it's actually necessary.
  This has mitigated the issue, I'm pretty sure, but it has not solved it 
completely.

  Yes, my fan is full of dust and doesn't do its job very well, but if
  that alone was the issue, the fan should reach its top speed well
  before the CPU reaches critical temperature.

  The definitive proof that the fan *can* go faster is that, when the
  computer is overheating, if I restart it, at the grub screen, the fan
  spins a lot faster. Then, as the OS boots, its speed drops. Then you
  can also hear as the speed slowly diminishes, as if it was gradually
  slowing down because it's managing to keep the temperature under
  control. Except that the temperature keeps going up.

  Even by just suspending and resuming, the fan speed gets a noticeable
  boost (not as huge as by rebooting, for some reason), which is utter
  nonsense, and then soon slows down again.

  The huge increase in fan speed at restart just before boot (note: only
  when the computer is hot) proves that not only the fan can spin faster
  than the OS lets it, but also that the hardware "KNOWS" how fast it
  should spin. Either the hardware, assuming that no driver has been
  loaded yet when presented the grub screen, or some kind of more
  primitive driver that is loaded together with grub, I don't know.
  SOMETHING does know how to control the fan speed properly, and
  something that is started during boot imposes a wrong, lower speed.

  
  I assume that the fan speed is not regulated by a simple fixed map from 
temperature values to fan speed values. That would completely explain the 
behaviour (the fan is not as efficient as it is supposed to be, hence the 
predetermined speed values function of temperature are not enough), but it 
would be incredibly stupid. Please tell me that's not the case.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic 4.4.0-79.100
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-79.100-generic 4.4.67
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-79-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  teo2826 F pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Tue Jun 13 01:49:34 2017
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=ff7e702a-a05a-47fd-8c14-551e81f9e9e3
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (1340 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424)
  MachineType: Acer Aspire V3-571G
  ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-79-generic.efi.signed 
root=UUID=5830b30e-69e8-4bb4-8a2b-bc2b43c7414a ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   linux-restricted-modules-4.4.0-79-generic N/A
   linux-backports-modules-4.4.0-79-generic  N/A
   linux-firmware1.157.10
  SourcePackage: linux
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to xenial on 2016-12-11 (183 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 10/15/2012
  dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
  dmi.bios.version: V2.07
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Type2 - Board Asset Tag