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Christian, it should only be using msbc when the headset's microphone is
in use, otherwise it should automatically fall back to A2DP.
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Thank you for your response Konrad.
I followed the docs for replacing pulseaudio with pipewire which worked well.
Now the bluetooth app offers more codecs to use.
I figured out "mSBC" offers the best quality.
Compared to A2DP it still sucks and sounds horrible.
You dont want to accept this if you
@Christian, @Konrad, Ubuntu 22.04 has this fixed. It was fixed in
PulseAudio 15, run `pulseaudio --version` to see the version you are
running.
But HSP sound is still much worse than A2DP sound e.g. if you listen to
music. HSP is still mono and limited to a bandwidth of 8 kHz. The scope
of this
@Christian Mint is based on Ubuntu 22.04 which is from 2022 so uses old
pulse-audio.
> When I switch to A2DP I cannot use the headset mic.
This is expected, A2DP is one direction only.
> When I switch to HFP the sound in conversations is horrible.
pulse-audio is kind of abandoned and actively
Hi,
now it's 2023 and I still have this problem.
Using Mint 21.1 and Teams for Linux.
When I switch to A2DP I cannot use the headset mic.
When I switch to HFP the sound in conversations is horrible.
Would appreciate a fix here.
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I've also got an Avantree DG80 as a workaround and I can confirm it
works with my Trekz OpenComm headset. It supports sounds up to 8 kHz
(corresponding to mSBC with a 16 kHz sampling frequency) with the mic
enabled, while anything connected directly to Linux bluetooth only goes
up to 4 kHz in
Hi everyone,
small progress report :
I tried the pipewire trick and it didn't work out for me, while it initially
seemed to work: auto switch to the HSP/HPF profile didn't work and after a
manual switch the headset would drop out during a conversation.
I reverted to pulseaudio and invested a
While waiting for the next LTS version of Ubuntu I was able to fix the
mic issue on 20.04 by installing pipewire (followed this guide
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1330395/newly-installed-
ubuntu-20-04-bluetooth-headset-sound-and-mic-not-working/1340889#1340889
except I installed wireplumber
no, new features don't really qualify for a stable update
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Any plans for releasing Pulseaudio 15 for Hirsute?
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https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:15.0+dfsg1-1ubuntu1
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wide band speech support
After two years of waiting on this, and seeing how disappointing the
progress has been both in Ubuntu and PulseAudio, I am happy to say that
I believe PipeWire is the future and I would hope that Ubuntu moves
forward with switching to PipeWire (while keeping PulseAudio as an
alternative).
I was
Will this be released to Ubuntu 20.04? This is very important for voice
calls in these times.
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I haven't got any pulseaudio updates on 21.04, to which version of
ubuntu was the fix released to?
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We'll see, Fedora 34 seems to have switched to Pipewire, and F34 is in my
near future, so I'll be experimenting.
Am Mi., 7. Apr. 2021 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Luis Alberto Pabón <
1838...@bugs.launchpad.net>:
> That would be for 21.10 at this point yes?
>
> I wonder, how close/far is Ubuntu to swap
That would be for 21.10 at this point yes?
I wonder, how close/far is Ubuntu to swap PA for Pipewire? After next
lts? I do believe this particular issue is not present on current
Pipewire.
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Maybe it was this we were waiting for:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/507
Regardless, PulseAudio version 15 (not yet released) is the goal.
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@Oscar That was never an issue: A2DP always sounded decent. The problem
with Linux Bluetooth headset support comes when you want decent quality
while listening and recording sound, you know e.g. during video calls.
Am Di., 30. März 2021 um 07:35 Uhr schrieb Oscar Pérez del Campo <
I guess this bug has been solved. As stated in
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/issues/776 by @rmeissn,
from gnome-settings, when the headset is connected, you can switch from HSP/HFP
to A2DP.
Once changed this setting my headsed sounds perfectly.
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>Jean- (jean-helou) wrote 6 hours ago: #87
>the next step to get a full fix and improved sound quality for voip calls over
>BT headset is >coming in
>https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/254
This is good news! Proper support for mSBC is critical for me to
the next step to get a full fix and improved sound quality for voip
calls over BT headset is coming in
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/254
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If I understand correctly all the discussions, an first step in the
direction of higher quality sound for BT headsets just got merged into
PA
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/440
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I think the problem was in the headphones. I found I was having trouble
on my phone as well. I contacted Sony support and they had me try a soft
reset of the headset, which seems to have restored function. I am still
getting bad mic sound on bluetooth, but I think it is just the low
quality sound
Strange, maybe yours is broken?
Sound from mic should be quiet good, like on Windows or Android (mono 16
kHz, or even 48 kHz if your headset supports FastStream codec).
I have also Zoweetek B0310, this one also works for me but it doesn't
have auto profile switching.
I'm using Lenovo T480,
I can't seem to get the DG80 working correctly under PopOS 20.10. It
works great for listening to music (though that worked directly on
bluetooth without issues) but I can't seem to get the correct mode for
talk. Since you say you have success with it, I will play with it some
more before
Avantree DG80 is an amazing device, it works out of box and it switches
between HSP/A2DP profiles automatically - tested with AKG K371-BT and
Denon GC-25w.
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I installed pulseaudio-modules-bt and it does give some new options for
sound output and possibly better sound, but microphone sound quality was
still iffy. Recorded sound on Audacity seemed better and was slightly
louder (according to the DB meter), but a test call on Microsoft Teams
was still
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/440
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Edit for #78
sudo systemctl restart pulseaudio -> sudo systemctl restart bluetooth
And perhaps a bit quick on the trigger... The sound seems better, though
maybe not that much :/
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It seems that on Ubuntu 20.10 it is fixed by installing pulseaudio-
modules-bt (which also uninstalls pulseaudio-module-bluetooth) from this
ppa: https://launchpad.net/~berglh/+archive/ubuntu/pulseaudio-a2dp
Then:
> sudo systemctl restart pulseaudio
> pulseaudio -k
Did just a few tests with
Perhaps the best hope is that Pipewire develops quickly and replaces
Pulseaudio:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/249
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I understood that they need to deal with new codec inclusion, via GStreamer o
other libs,
and that writing code and manage a community is not a simple task.
Said that,
IMHO there are three big question with bluetooth and PulseAudio:
1. in these days we (probably most of us) are always on web
Time to get a Macbook or Chromebook or whatever
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Disappointing. I've just ordered a 1mii B10 USB Bluetooth 5.0 Audio
Transmitter as a workaround...
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Unfortunately the developers could not agree and closed:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/227
That doesn't mean desktop Linux will never have it. Just not any time
soon :(
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1: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/14.0/
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I meant HFP profile.
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@pesso82
There is your problem. Those headphones do not support HSP 1.6 profile,
only 1.5.
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Yes, that’s the point
I’m try to use JBL T450BT
These are the available specs on official site
Control and Connection Specifications
Bluetooth profilesHFP v1.5, HSP v1.2, A2DP v1.2, AVRCP v1.4
Bluetooth frequency2.402GHz-2.48GHz
Bluetooth transmitted modulationGFSK,π/4DQPSK, 8DPSK
Bluetooth
That one was a good one. Bluetooth gadget makers seem to be allergic to
exactly specify what their gadgets really support.
That's on one side extremely understandable, it would be mostly not
understandable for humans, the Bluetooth standards involved are arcane, and
even relatively experienced
@65 - thank for explanation
Could someone post a list of headsets with mSBC support?
Price below 100€ if possible
Specification are hard to find, and headset market is crowded...
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@61, yes. I had tried it and it works. It also has mSBC support -
https://github.com/Arkq/bluez-alsa/issues/29, but the author himself
admits that mSBC support is buggy and is not being developed. I could
get it to work, but the audio was very choppy.
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@63 - your headset likely doesn't support mSBC (16 KHz), only CVSD (8KHz) in
HFP/HSP mode.
If that is the case, any fix - using a USB soundcard as you did, or a software
fix (which this page is tracking) isn't gonna help.
If it does support mSBC, 1Mii B10, and Avantree Leaf, Creative BT-W3
@ gyhor, I am pretty sure you got a faulty 1Mii B10. It doesnt get past
enumeration, so it is not a compatibility issue.
You also mention that it was tried on different systems and didn't work.
Time to get it replaced.
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Recently i bought both: 1Mii B10 and Avantree Leaf
Quick review of them on my Ubuntu 16.04 64bit
- plug and play -> both OK, no issues
- audio quality with mic enabled -> bad bad bad, no significantly different
than using pc bluetooth
Therefore... there is no solution, apart from wired headset
or could some one point me where to find some information how to use the
patches?
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bluetooth_headset
"If you do not want to use PulseAudio, you can use bluez-alsa to provide
integration between Bluez and ALSA. "
Did someone tried that on ubuntu?
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@gdi2k
What we have in the Linux now is HFP with 8kHz encoding. All other
platforms such as Windows, Android, Chromium, etc, supports HFP with
16kHZ encoding which is much much better quality. Sure, it's not like
A2DP, but quality is very much acceptable to speak with someone.
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Different colleagues (with stationary computer, thinkpads and me with an
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Sorry that screenshot, failed and I cant edit my post, here is the
screenshot: https://imgur.com/flypHpz
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@gyhor For the 1Mii B10 it specifically lists Linux support, see here:
https://1mii.com/product-item/b10/
For me when I plug it in is shows up as a sound output device,
screenshot (Ubuntu 20.04): https://imgur.com/a/gmToEL3
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I bought the 1Mii and tried to connect it. Unfortunately without success.
Ubuntu don't recognize it:
[ 6308.630984] usb 3-1.1.3: new full-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd
[ 6308.631134] usb 3-1.1.3: Device not responding to setup address.
[ 6308.839133] usb 3-1.1.3: Device not responding
I tried an Avantree Leaf bluetooth transmitter with my Plantronics
Blackbeat Pro 2 and I don't have any improvement. In call mode, the
sound is still mono with the same (bad) quality that switching the sound
profile to HSP/HFP. Why there is no difference?
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@ #47
Creative Labs BT-W3 supports mSBC
(https://sg.creative.com/p/speakers/creative-bt-w3).
I had checked with them before buying one.
Tried pairing it with Jabra Talk 15, as well as Avantree Clipper Pro, and I can
confirm that it works. Tried plotting the spectrum of the recorded audio using
I'm also interested by such Bluetooth adapter, which one do you
recommend between the Avantree Leaf and 1Mii b10?
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I can confirm, 1Mii b10 works pretty well.
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Thank you for the advice! I'm going to purchase and see if it works with
my setup.
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The one in #48 wouldn't, it wouldn't act as a sound card.
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I think this works:
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086L2WNPG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8=1
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would something like
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J5WFPXX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_IciRFb2QMGBDJ
work?
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@igor871
Very interested to learn more about such Bluetooth audio cards. Years
ago I had a Plantronics headset (Voyager?) that came with a USB dongle
that presented itself as a USB sound card to the operating system, and
it was perfect (two-way HD audio). But the dongle (Plantronics BT300 and
I don't know of any alternative "soundmanager" for desktop Linux that
has better Bluetooth support than PulseAudio. At least not on desktop
Linux... I think Google wrote their own stack for Android.
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@dennis9771
Just get yourself Bluetooth audio card and save yourself a trouble, this
will never be fixed. And you will not be able to use A2DP for
conversation even if fixed. The goal of the fix is to add HFP 1.6 with
mSBC 16kHz audio encoding so you have better quality during
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Thank you for your quick response!
Does that mean I would have to wait for Pulseaudio to fix this in one of their
future releases (maybe v.15) or will it be possible to use an alternative
soundmanager, where the kernel fixes would be sufficient to use A2DP for
bidirectional bluetooth
We're not 100% sure what fixes are required but it looks like it will
require fixes in the kernel AND bluez AND pulseaudio. The first two are
included in Ubuntu 20.10 already, but that's not enough to fix this bug.
If you want to track the main work outstanding then please look at:
Hey there,
according to the above statements there has been a fix released for
bluez bluetooth stack as well for ubuntu system?
Am I able to get this fix installed for now?
Best Regards
Dennis
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It appears the kernel work is done and we are waiting on PulseAudio now.
To join or monitor that conversation go to:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/issues/776
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How do we get the Kernel maintainers to approve the remaining patches? I
thought it might be fixed in 20.10 (KUbuntu), but it is not. I would
think there is at least one kernel approver within Canonical? If not,
who do I get in touch to talk about this?
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I've got a DG60 dongle (a slightly bigger cousin), and my experiences with
a headset that does only have SBC/MP3 codecs (Aftershokz Aeropex)
- It switches attached to my Linux (Ubuntu 18.04) automatically to
HFP/HSP profile (mono + microphone, but in good quality) when my laptop
starts
I can only speak to the one that I linked, but yes it has talk/list
switch. The talk mode is only for talking (the music quality is BAD),
the lisen mode is only for listening (the music quality is good).
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Have a question about USB bluetooth transmitters mentioned above. Both
models include Talk/Listen switches. Do you have to use them to get
decent quality for music and for calls? Or is music quality good even in
Talk mode?
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Nice explanation of the mess that Bluetooth audio is, as I'm reliving my
frustrations currently (my wife bought her first headset, for her Windows
laptop, and discovered that “plug and play” is sadly “buy and pray” in
Bluetooth land :( )
https://habr.com/en/post/456182/
* generally all OS
Actually most laptops (or desktops) can't compete with USB sound cards.
Because the audio chips that come on your motherboard:
* are usually cheaper and lower quality;
* often have limited kernel/ALSA driver support (which is why the alsa-driver
bug backlog is always out of control);
* often
Generally speaking, the "USB soundcard" is the last fallback of an
experienced Linux user if you are unhappy what is in your laptop. Be it the
Bluetooth software stack or the fighting with crappy driver support for the
physical sound card hardware.
But thanks for pointing out that solution.
I can confirm that the above solution works well. I bought a similar but
slightly cheaper one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086L2WNPG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8=1
Basically the dongle pairs directly to your headset and acts as a usb
sound card. By far the easiest solution
I've just logged in to share the workaround I've been using for the last
two years. I have a Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth headset, I bought the
following USB key Bluetooth transmitter:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B01G3J1I5M/
No issues with it, audio quality is great either for music and for
Same here (Ubuntu 20.04)
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Ubuntu 20.04 user, can confirm this bug.
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** Summary changed:
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+ Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide
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I use Ubuntu 20.04.1, and I have the same problem. I confirm this bug.
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Not sure how many parts there will be to this in the end...
bluez: Fixed in 5.54? That's in Ubuntu 20.10 already.
linux: Fixed in 5.6-ish? That's coming to Ubuntu 20.10 soon via kernel 5.8.
pulseaudio: In progress (pulseaudio!227).
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed =>
In progress here:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/227
** Changed in: bluez (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Released
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed
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this affects me for some years now, bosses now complain for me to move
to windows as now we are all remote with tons of meetings and this is a
big impact on how they see all this linux desktop adoption.
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The patch doesn't sound like something we would like to carry as a
distro patch, also the depends of ofono mentioned sounds suboptimal
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Are you planing to patch ubuntu packages or waiting to be in upstream?
I'm asking because in pulseaudio side I am watching no much interest at all in
that changes.. and in the kernel's side the same, so I doubt if that will gonna
be fixed or not, at least, in upstream.
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Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth
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Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing
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Great to see traction on this, thank you for all your efforts Daniel!
And to everyone else, this is a far more complex problem than you can
imagine However it can and will be solved :)
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