Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-28 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 28 April 2016 at 22:27, Robert Leleu  wrote:
> Presently Ubuntu 16.04 install Kexi 2.9.7

Yes and this is unfortunate, it's 8 months old software, months of
work is not distributed on this OS.
Despite of the fact that Kexi 2.9.x are all fix releases, with no
feature updates (one minor was in SQL), and Ubuntu had to offer such
updates, it does not.

This is why we need one or another way to give users ultimate option
to stay with their OS of choice and use fresh Kexi apps.

> Je la 28/04/2016 22:06, Jaroslaw Staniek skribis :
>
> On 28 April 2016 at 21:39, Swarup  wrote:
>
>
> On 04/28/2016 03:26 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>
> On 13 April 2016 at 21:29, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>
> On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  wrote:
>
> Hello there,
> Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
> later versions? I'm still stuck in--
>
> Kexi Version 2.8.5
>
> Hi
> I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
> Upgrading the OS can be an option.
> Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
> This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.
>
> Hi,
> A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages
>
> PS:
> Another approach for deployment of Kexi is in our backlog, compatible
> with more Linuxes:
>
> http://appimage.org/
>
>
> The site you are providing here is a generic tool. Are you saying that I
> would need to use this tool to make a version of Kexi that will run in
> Ubuntu?
>
> I am not saying you would need this tool. Because it targets more than
> just Ubuntu, it may be better investment, maybe even better than using
> Snaps. I did not test anything like that with Kexi though.
>
> You can also:
> - build Kexi by hand on your computer
> - build Kexi and package it (and share with others?)
> - use the https://build.opensuse.org/ service to do the same
> - ask someone else to make a package
>
> Finding people that _regularly_ help with packaging Kexi will help the
> project.
>
> Things will improve, just now the focus is on development of the new
> shiny Kexi 3.
>
>
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-28 Thread Robert Leleu

Presently Ubuntu 16.04 install Kexi 2.9.7

Je la 28/04/2016 22:06, Jaroslaw Staniek skribis :

On 28 April 2016 at 21:39, Swarup  wrote:
On 04/28/2016 03:26 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 13 April 2016 at 
21:29, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote: On 8 April 2016 at 
19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote: On Thursday, 7 April 
2016, Swarup  wrote: Hello there, Any 
improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to 
later versions? I'm still stuck in-- Kexi Version 2.8.5 Hi I am sorry 
that ubuntu offers no such support for free software. Upgrading the 
OS can be an option. Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who 
can develop a backport. This can be requested on an ubuntu forum. Hi, 
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon: 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages PS: 
Another approach for deployment of Kexi is in our backlog, compatible 
with more Linuxes: http://appimage.org/ The site you are providing 
here is a generic tool. Are you saying that I would need to use this 
tool to make a version of Kexi that will run in Ubuntu?
I am not saying you would need this tool. Because it targets more than 
just Ubuntu, it may be better investment, maybe even better than using 
Snaps. I did not test anything like that with Kexi though. You can 
also: - build Kexi by hand on your computer - build Kexi and package 
it (and share with others?) - use the https://build.opensuse.org/ 
service to do the same - ask someone else to make a package Finding 
people that _regularly_ help with packaging Kexi will help the 
project. Things will improve, just now the focus is on development of 
the new shiny Kexi 3.
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-28 Thread Swarup



On 04/28/2016 03:26 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 13 April 2016 at 21:29, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:


On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages


PS:
Another approach for deployment of Kexi is in our backlog, compatible
with more Linuxes:

http://appimage.org/


The site you are providing here is a generic tool. Are you saying that I 
would need to use this tool to make a version of Kexi that will run in 
Ubuntu?
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-28 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 13 April 2016 at 21:29, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
> On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  wrote:
>>> Hello there,
>>> Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
>>> later versions? I'm still stuck in--
>>>
>>> Kexi Version 2.8.5
>>
>> Hi
>> I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
>> Upgrading the OS can be an option.
>> Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
>> This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.
>
> Hi,
> A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages


PS:
Another approach for deployment of Kexi is in our backlog, compatible
with more Linuxes:

http://appimage.org/


>
>>> Swarup
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/03/2016 05:44 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Database apps builder Kexi 2.9.11 has been released with many cool
>>> improvements, bug fixes and handy update for MS Access support:
>>>
>>> https://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-2-9-11-released/#kexi
>>>
>>>
>>> To request new features or fixes for Kexi visit
>>> https://www.bountysource.com/teams/kexi
>>>
>>> We're also looking for new contributors (and not just programmers).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>>
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>> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
>> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
>> Calligra Suite:
>> : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
>> Kexi:
>> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
>> Qt Certified Specialist:
>> : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
>
>
>
> --
> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>
> KDE:
> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
> Calligra Suite:
> : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
> Kexi:
> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
> Qt Certified Specialist:
> : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek



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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-16 Thread cl
Robert Leleu  wrote:
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> 
> Je la 16/04/2016 10:52, c...@isbd.net skribis :
> > Swarup  wrote:
> >>> We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new updates 
> >>> appear for Kexi.
> >> There are so many software packages which update regularly every week 
> >> with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If Kexi 
> >> could be incorporated into this feature, it would be great.
> > The updates are only bug and security fixes, there are no version 
> > upgrades within a given Ubuntu release.

> If there is a specific PPA you can get even daily evolutions . For 
> instance the music editor
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mscore-ubuntu/mscore-nightly/ubuntu
> however this PPA is not prepared by Ubuntu people but by independent 
> ones.
> 
Yes, if you use a PPA specific to the program.  You have to make sure
you select the PPA offering rather than the main repository one
though, I've been confused by this sometimes.

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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-16 Thread Robert Leleu

Je la 16/04/2016 10:52, c...@isbd.net skribis :

Swarup  wrote:
We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new updates 
appear for Kexi.
There are so many software packages which update regularly every week 
with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If Kexi 
could be incorporated into this feature, it would be great.
The updates are only bug and security fixes, there are no version 
upgrades within a given Ubuntu release.
If there is a specific PPA you can get even daily evolutions . For 
instance the music editor

http://ppa.launchpad.net/mscore-ubuntu/mscore-nightly/ubuntu
however this PPA is not prepared by Ubuntu people but by independent 
ones.


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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-16 Thread cl
Swarup  wrote:
> > We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new updates 
> > appear for Kexi.
> >
> 
> There are so many software packages which update regularly every week 
> with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If Kexi could 
> be incorporated into this feature, it would be great.
> 
The updates are only bug and security fixes, there are no version
upgrades within a given Ubuntu release.

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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 April 2016 at 17:32, Swarup  wrote:
>
>
> On 04/15/2016 11:10 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>
> On 15 April 2016 at 14:47, Swarup  wrote:
>
> 2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following features:
>
> -Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in
> existence
>
> I see how it may be usable. It's not supported now.
> Database table is not a spreadsheet's sheet, so the order is defined
> by current sorting, for given column, based on contents. Even if we
> have this feature, placement of a new row would be kept until another
> sorting or re-opening the table view. This my be the reason why I know
> no software that supports the feature.
>
>
> MS Access has this feature, and has had it for many, many years.

Can you please send a screenshot, long to documentation or a video?
All I see is that order is unspecified. I can reorder rows only for
spreadsheet mode, which is for example the one in Table Designer or
Query Designer. Data Table shows just that:

http://i.imgur.com/TLy3QUx.png

> features I asked about are long-held features of MS Access. I migrated from
> Windows to Linux ten years ago and have been with Linux systems ever since,
> but these features of MS Access are things I sorely miss. My brother also
> works on Ubuntu on his Mac, and has installed Parallels (virtual software)
> so he could install Windows, just so that he could use MS Access.
>
> -Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already in
> existence
>
> Yes, it has been available for a long time. But table is recreated
> then from scratch without prior data.
> We're collecting funds for this big development:
> https://www.bountysource.com/issues/26881135-add-support-for-alter-table-s-design-without-losing-data
>
> It it destroys all the data, the feature is of no use. Again, this has been
> a standard feature of MSA for many, many years.

As long term MSA user I don't argue with anything you write here.

I just claim the feature costs many thousands, not an evening :)
If nobody can step up it would end up as a paid extension _if_ there's
market for it: someone has to hire developers that will deliver that.

> One can do any sort of
> manipulation of an MSA table: rearrange rows, rearrange columns, rename
> columns, add new rows and columns in the middle of pre-existing tables,
> highlight and copy-paste sections of the table and past it in other sections
> of the table. The MSA table is so fluid and flexible. And it is this very
> maneuverability that Liinux users still write about and lament the loss of
> when they moved to Linux.
>
>
> -Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table. (Currently
> this requires going into the data view, with the warning that making any
> changes will wipe out all the data in the table)
>
> It's unsupported like the above.
>
> -Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already in
> existence
>
> This wish is reported, feel free to vote for it.
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361362
>
>
> My intent here was not at all to rub Kexi's nose in the dirt; I know you are
> working hard and I appreciate the progress you've made. I only raised the
> subject as you said you'd never seen any DB software that has the row-adding
> feature. In my mind, if I have to describe the ideal DB software today
> though, it does still remain MSA. If you are able to replicate the amazing
> features in MSA, you will have truly created an amazing tool for Linux
> users.
>
> Swarup
>



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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Swarup



On 04/15/2016 11:10 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 15 April 2016 at 14:47, Swarup  wrote:

2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following features:

-Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in
existence

I see how it may be usable. It's not supported now.
Database table is not a spreadsheet's sheet, so the order is defined
by current sorting, for given column, based on contents. Even if we
have this feature, placement of a new row would be kept until another
sorting or re-opening the table view. This my be the reason why I know
no software that supports the feature.


MS Access has this feature, and has had it for many, many years. All the 
features I asked about are long-held features of MS Access. I migrated 
from Windows to Linux ten years ago and have been with Linux systems 
ever since, but these features of MS Access are things I sorely miss. My 
brother also works on Ubuntu on his Mac, and has installed Parallels 
(virtual software) so he could install Windows, just so that he could 
use MS Access.

-Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already in
existence

Yes, it has been available for a long time. But table is recreated
then from scratch without prior data.
We're collecting funds for this big development:
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/26881135-add-support-for-alter-table-s-design-without-losing-data
It it destroys all the data, the feature is of no use. Again, this has 
been a standard feature of MSA for many, many years. One can do any sort 
of manipulation of an MSA table: rearrange rows, rearrange columns, 
rename columns, add new rows and columns in the middle of pre-existing 
tables, highlight and copy-paste sections of the table and past it in 
other sections of the table. The MSA table is so fluid and flexible. And 
it is this very maneuverability that Liinux users still write about and 
lament the loss of when they moved to Linux.





-Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table. (Currently
this requires going into the data view, with the warning that making any
changes will wipe out all the data in the table)

It's unsupported like the above.


-Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already in
existence

This wish is reported, feel free to vote for it.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361362



My intent here was not at all to rub Kexi's nose in the dirt; I know you 
are working hard and I appreciate the progress you've made. I only 
raised the subject as you said you'd never seen any DB software that has 
the row-adding feature. In my mind, if I have to describe the ideal DB 
software today though, it does still remain MSA. If you are able to 
replicate the amazing features in MSA, you will have truly created an 
amazing tool for Linux users.


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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 April 2016 at 16:44, Robert Leleu  wrote:

>
> just to add some salt.
> Running Kubuntu 15.10 which delivers Kexi 2.9.7 (much better than 2.8.5) I
> added the backport PPA which put down the file manager, and did not
> upgrade Kexi to 2.9.11
>
> So I just went back to before the added PPA, corrected some problemsand
> now go on waiting for next upgrades of Kexi by basic PPAs, since, on another
> hand, I don't success to compile

Thanks Robert.
I recommend asking the Kubuntu team. It's they task to distribute properly...

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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 April 2016 at 14:47, Swarup  wrote:
>

>> 2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following features:
>>
>> -Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in
>> existence

I see how it may be usable. It's not supported now.
Database table is not a spreadsheet's sheet, so the order is defined
by current sorting, for given column, based on contents. Even if we
have this feature, placement of a new row would be kept until another
sorting or re-opening the table view. This my be the reason why I know
no software that supports the feature.

We have no wish reported for it.  Please report if you like and vote.

>> -Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already in
>> existence

Yes, it has been available for a long time. But table is recreated
then from scratch without prior data.
We're collecting funds for this big development:
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/26881135-add-support-for-alter-table-s-design-without-losing-data

>> -Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table. (Currently
>> this requires going into the data view, with the warning that making any
>> changes will wipe out all the data in the table)

It's unsupported like the above.

>> -Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already in
>> existence

This wish is reported, feel free to vote for it.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361362




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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Robert Leleu

Je la 15/04/2016 15:47, Swarup skribis :



On 04/15/2016 09:15 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 14:47, Swarup > wrote:




On 04/15/2016 08:29 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 14:07, Swarup  wrote:



On 04/15/2016 07:45 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup 
wrote:



On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek 
  wrote:

On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup 
  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to 
upgrade to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a 
backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages



Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the
day when I'll be able to upgrade kexi versions. The
version I have right now is so dysfunctional. Any time
the mouse crosses from the left side of the screen into
the left side of the table, it makes the table jump to
the top. This is endlessly frustrating and a huge waste
of time. Say I am working in row #750, the mouse moves
across the left border of the table and all of a sudden
the table jumps to row#1. If there is any fix for this,
please advise.


​ All this was long ago fixed.​
​ My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy
in a virtual machine or different computer. Regardless of
availability of the Snap packages, staying with outdated
software on LTS platforms will be always a compromise. It's
not a problem for apps that do not evolve much anymore but
Kexi is actively developed and users are hungry for features :)

We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new
updates appear for Kexi.



There are so many software packages which update regularly
every week with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens
automatically. If Kexi could be incorporated into this
feature, it would be great.


OK. Do you mean official packages from Canonical or do you have
unofficial repositories added?




Either would be perfectly fine.


As for upgrading the OS, the Final Version of the new Ubuntu
LTS 16.04 is coming out on April 21. My current LTS 14.04 is
in all other regards functioning wonderfully, and I would
have no other reason to upgrade given my own specific usage
patterns and needs. Upgrading would only be done for getting
an updated Kexi, and for me upgrading Ubuntu on a MacBook
Pro is not a small job. So this being the case, let me just
ask the following questions:



I can't see updates for even new Ubuntu on this web page, 2.9.7
is too old:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kexi
​


Does this mean that 16.04 is going to install an old version of
kexi?

Or are you saying you don't know what version of Kexi it will
install?



​ There's contact email kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com to the
developers where yo ucan ask for help.


​ But have you tried this advice?

http://www.askmetutorials.com/2016/02/install-calligra-office-suite-2911-on.html



Now this is very exciting indeed. I will definitely try this--
right now.

Do I need to first uninstall my existing version of Kexi? And if
so, can I use the Ubuntu software manager to do the install?

Or can I leave the current install in place and install 2.9.11
alongside it?


​ There can be only one version installed in one system, and the 
system would only propose installation is ​newer version is found.




I just now uninstalled kexi using the Ubuntu software manager, and 
then followed the listed tutorial for the new install of Calligra 
2.9.11. But to my surprise, it merely re-installed the very same old 
version which I've had for ages (Kexi Version 2.8.5, Using KDE 
Platform Version 4.14.13). So I'm afraid the tutorial is not working 
for installing Calligra 2.9.11. It just installs the ages old version 
of KOffice which comes with Ubuntu 14.04 repos. Please do let me know 
if you have a solution for this.




just to add some salt.
Running Kubuntu 15.10 which 

Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Swarup



On 04/15/2016 09:15 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 14:47, Swarup > wrote:




On 04/15/2016 08:29 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 14:07, Swarup > wrote:



On 04/15/2016 07:45 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup > wrote:



On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek 
  wrote:

On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup 
  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to 
upgrade to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a 
backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages



Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day
when I'll be able to upgrade kexi versions. The version
I have right now is so dysfunctional. Any time the mouse
crosses from the left side of the screen into the left
side of the table, it makes the table jump to the top.
This is endlessly frustrating and a huge waste of time.
Say I am working in row #750, the mouse moves across the
left border of the table and all of a sudden the table
jumps to row#1. If there is any fix for this, please advise.


​ All this was long ago fixed.​
​ My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy in
a virtual machine or different computer. Regardless of
availability of the Snap packages, staying with outdated
software on LTS platforms will be always a compromise. It's
not a problem for apps that do not evolve much anymore but
Kexi is actively developed and users are hungry for features :)

We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new
updates appear for Kexi.



There are so many software packages which update regularly
every week with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens
automatically. If Kexi could be incorporated into this
feature, it would be great.


OK. Do you mean official packages from Canonical or do you have
unofficial repositories added?




Either would be perfectly fine.


As for upgrading the OS, the Final Version of the new Ubuntu
LTS 16.04 is coming out on April 21. My current LTS 14.04 is
in all other regards functioning wonderfully, and I would
have no other reason to upgrade given my own specific usage
patterns and needs. Upgrading would only be done for getting
an updated Kexi, and for me upgrading Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro
is not a small job. So this being the case, let me just ask
the following questions:



I can't see updates for even new Ubuntu on this web page, 2.9.7
is too old:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kexi
​


Does this mean that 16.04 is going to install an old version of kexi?

Or are you saying you don't know what version of Kexi it will install?



​ There's contact email kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
 to the developers where
yo ucan ask for help.


​ But have you tried this advice?

http://www.askmetutorials.com/2016/02/install-calligra-office-suite-2911-on.html



Now this is very exciting indeed. I will definitely try this--
right now.

Do I need to first uninstall my existing version of Kexi? And if
so, can I use the Ubuntu software manager to do the install?

Or can I leave the current install in place and install 2.9.11
alongside it?


​ There can be only one version installed in one system, and the 
system would only propose installation is ​newer version is found.




I just now uninstalled kexi using the Ubuntu software manager, and then 
followed the listed tutorial for the new install of Calligra 2.9.11. But 
to my surprise, it merely re-installed the very same old version which 
I've had for ages (Kexi Version 2.8.5, Using KDE Platform Version 
4.14.13). So I'm afraid the tutorial is not working for installing 
Calligra 2.9.11. It just installs the ages old version of KOffice which 
comes with Ubuntu 14.04 repos. Please do let me know if you have a 
solution for this.

Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released [updated post]

2016-04-15 Thread Swarup

*Correction*-- see below ...

On 04/15/2016 08:29 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 14:07, Swarup > wrote:




On 04/15/2016 07:45 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup  wrote:



On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek 
  wrote:

On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup 
  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade 
to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages



Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day when
I'll be able to upgrade kexi versions. The version I have
right now is so dysfunctional. Any time the mouse crosses
from the left side of the screen into the left side of the
table, it makes the table jump to the top. This is endlessly
frustrating and a huge waste of time. Say I am working in row
#750, the mouse moves across the left border of the table and
all of a sudden the table jumps to row#1. If there is any fix
for this, please advise.


​ All this was long ago fixed.​
​ My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy in a
virtual machine or different computer. Regardless of availability
of the Snap packages, staying with outdated software on LTS
platforms will be always a compromise. It's not a problem for
apps that do not evolve much anymore but Kexi is actively
developed and users are hungry for features :)

We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new
updates appear for Kexi.



There are so many software packages which update regularly every
week with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If
Kexi could be incorporated into this feature, it would be great.


OK. Do you mean official packages from Canonical or do you have 
unofficial repositories added?



As for upgrading the OS, the Final Version of the new Ubuntu LTS
16.04 is coming out on April 21. My current LTS 14.04 is in all
other regards functioning wonderfully, and I would have no other
reason to upgrade given my own specific usage patterns and needs.
Upgrading would only be done for getting an updated Kexi, and for
me upgrading Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro is not a small job. So this
being the case, let me just ask the following questions:



I can't see updates for even new Ubuntu on this web page, 2.9.7 is too 
old:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kexi
​


Does this mean that 16.04 is going to install an old version of kexi?

Or are you saying you don't know what version of Kexi it will install?



​ There's contact email kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com 
 to the developers where yo 
ucan ask for help.



​ But have you tried this advice?
http://www.askmetutorials.com/2016/02/install-calligra-office-suite-2911-on.html



Now this is very exciting indeed. I will definitely try this-- right now.

Do I need to first uninstall my existing version of Kexi? And if so, is 
it ok to use the Ubuntu software manager to do the *uninstall *?


Or can I leave the current install in place and install 2.9.11 alongside it?




1. By upgrading to 16.04 LTS, will I get the latest finalized
version of Kexi? Or if not, which version of Kexi will be included
in Ubuntu 16.04?
​ ​

2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following
features:

-Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in
existence
-Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already
in existence
-Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table.
(Currently this requires going into the data view, with the
warning that making any changes will wipe out all the data in the
table)
-Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already
in existence



Have these features not yet been developed then?

Thanks,
Swarup
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Swarup



On 04/15/2016 08:29 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 14:07, Swarup > wrote:




On 04/15/2016 07:45 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup > wrote:



On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek 
  wrote:

On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup 
  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade 
to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages



Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day when
I'll be able to upgrade kexi versions. The version I have
right now is so dysfunctional. Any time the mouse crosses
from the left side of the screen into the left side of the
table, it makes the table jump to the top. This is endlessly
frustrating and a huge waste of time. Say I am working in row
#750, the mouse moves across the left border of the table and
all of a sudden the table jumps to row#1. If there is any fix
for this, please advise.


​ All this was long ago fixed.​
​ My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy in a
virtual machine or different computer. Regardless of availability
of the Snap packages, staying with outdated software on LTS
platforms will be always a compromise. It's not a problem for
apps that do not evolve much anymore but Kexi is actively
developed and users are hungry for features :)

We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new
updates appear for Kexi.



There are so many software packages which update regularly every
week with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If
Kexi could be incorporated into this feature, it would be great.


OK. Do you mean official packages from Canonical or do you have 
unofficial repositories added?



As for upgrading the OS, the Final Version of the new Ubuntu LTS
16.04 is coming out on April 21. My current LTS 14.04 is in all
other regards functioning wonderfully, and I would have no other
reason to upgrade given my own specific usage patterns and needs.
Upgrading would only be done for getting an updated Kexi, and for
me upgrading Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro is not a small job. So this
being the case, let me just ask the following questions:



I can't see updates for even new Ubuntu on this web page, 2.9.7 is too 
old:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kexi
​


Does this mean that 16.04 is going to install an old version of kexi?

Or are you saying you don't know what version of Kexi it will install?



​ There's contact email kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com 
 to the developers where yo 
ucan ask for help.



​ But have you tried this advice?
http://www.askmetutorials.com/2016/02/install-calligra-office-suite-2911-on.html



Now this is very exciting indeed. I will definitely try this-- right now.

Do I need to first uninstall my existing version of Kexi? And if so, can 
I use the Ubuntu software manager to do the install?


Or can I leave the current install in place and install 2.9.11 alongside it?




1. By upgrading to 16.04 LTS, will I get the latest finalized
version of Kexi? Or if not, which version of Kexi will be included
in Ubuntu 16.04?
​ ​

2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following
features:

-Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in
existence
-Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already
in existence
-Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table.
(Currently this requires going into the data view, with the
warning that making any changes will wipe out all the data in the
table)
-Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already
in existence



Have these features not yet been developed then?

Thanks,
Swarup
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 April 2016 at 14:07, Swarup  wrote:

>
>
> On 04/15/2016 07:45 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>
>
>
> On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>>
>> On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>> Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
>> later versions? I'm still stuck in--
>>
>> Kexi Version 2.8.5
>>
>> Hi
>> I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
>> Upgrading the OS can be an option.
>> Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
>> This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.
>>
>> Hi,
>> A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:
>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages
>>
>>
>> Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day when I'll be
>> able to upgrade kexi versions. The version I have right now is so
>> dysfunctional. Any time the mouse crosses from the left side of the screen
>> into the left side of the table, it makes the table jump to the top. This
>> is endlessly frustrating and a huge waste of time. Say I am working in row
>> #750, the mouse moves across the left border of the table and all of a
>> sudden the table jumps to row#1. If there is any fix for this, please
>> advise.
>>
>>
> ​ All this was long ago fixed.​
>
> ​ My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy in a virtual
> machine or different computer. Regardless of availability of the Snap
> packages, staying with outdated software on LTS platforms will be always a
> compromise. It's not a problem for apps that do not evolve much anymore but
> Kexi is actively developed and users are hungry for features :)
>
> We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new updates appear
> for Kexi.
>
>
> There are so many software packages which update regularly every week with
> the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If Kexi could be
> incorporated into this feature, it would be great.
>

OK. Do you mean official packages from Canonical or do you have unofficial
repositories added?


> As for upgrading the OS, the Final Version of the new Ubuntu LTS 16.04 is
> coming out on April 21. My current LTS 14.04 is in all other regards
> functioning wonderfully, and I would have no other reason to upgrade given
> my own specific usage patterns and needs. Upgrading would only be done for
> getting an updated Kexi, and for me upgrading Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro is
> not a small job. So this being the case, let me just ask the following
> questions:
>


I can't see updates for even new Ubuntu on this web page, 2.9.7 is too old:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kexi
​

​There's contact email kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com to the developers
where yo ucan ask for help.


​But have you tried this advice?
http://www.askmetutorials.com/2016/02/install-calligra-office-suite-2911-on.html


​


>
> 1. By upgrading to 16.04 LTS, will I get the latest finalized version of
> Kexi? Or if not, which version of Kexi will be included in Ubuntu 16.04?
> ​​
>
> 2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following features:
>
> -Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in existence
> -Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already in
> existence
> -Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table. (Currently
> this requires going into the data view, with the warning that making any
> changes will wipe out all the data in the table)
> -Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already in
> existence
>
> If these table features have also been incorporated, then that will also
> provide tremendous inspiration to do the OS upgrade.
>
> (If it is just the previously described table-jumps-to-row#1 bug which has
> been fixed, I will still consider upgrading but I have adjusted myself
> through long practice to this bug so that I don't cross that table border
> when working in Kexi.)
>
> Swarup
>



-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

KDE:
: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
: and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
Calligra Suite:
: A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
Kexi:
: A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
Qt Certified Specialist:
: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Swarup



On 04/15/2016 07:45 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:



On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup > wrote:




On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek 
  wrote:

On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup 
  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages



Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day when I'll
be able to upgrade kexi versions. The version I have right now is
so dysfunctional. Any time the mouse crosses from the left side of
the screen into the left side of the table, it makes the table
jump to the top. This is endlessly frustrating and a huge waste of
time. Say I am working in row #750, the mouse moves across the
left border of the table and all of a sudden the table jumps to
row#1. If there is any fix for this, please advise.


​ All this was long ago fixed.​
​ My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy in a virtual 
machine or different computer. Regardless of availability of the Snap 
packages, staying with outdated software on LTS platforms will be 
always a compromise. It's not a problem for apps that do not evolve 
much anymore but Kexi is actively developed and users are hungry for 
features :)


We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new updates 
appear for Kexi.




There are so many software packages which update regularly every week 
with the Ubuntu update manager-- it happens automatically. If Kexi could 
be incorporated into this feature, it would be great.


As for upgrading the OS, the Final Version of the new Ubuntu LTS 16.04 
is coming out on April 21. My current LTS 14.04 is in all other regards 
functioning wonderfully, and I would have no other reason to upgrade 
given my own specific usage patterns and needs. Upgrading would only be 
done for getting an updated Kexi, and for me upgrading Ubuntu on a 
MacBook Pro is not a small job. So this being the case, let me just ask 
the following questions:


1. By upgrading to 16.04 LTS, will I get the latest finalized version of 
Kexi? Or if not, which version of Kexi will be included in Ubuntu 16.04?

2. Will the version of Kexi which is included have the following features:

-Ability to add rows to the middle of a table which is already in existence
-Ability to add columns to the middle of a table which is already in 
existence
-Ability to change the name of a column in an existing table. (Currently 
this requires going into the data view, with the warning that making any 
changes will wipe out all the data in the table)
-Ability to move existing rows/columns in a table which is already in 
existence


If these table features have also been incorporated, then that will also 
provide tremendous inspiration to do the OS upgrade.


(If it is just the previously described table-jumps-to-row#1 bug which 
has been fixed, I will still consider upgrading but I have adjusted 
myself through long practice to this bug so that I don't cross that 
table border when working in Kexi.)


Swarup
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 April 2016 at 13:36, Swarup  wrote:

>
>
> On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>
> On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  
>  wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  
>  wrote:
>
> Hello there,
> Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
> later versions? I'm still stuck in--
>
> Kexi Version 2.8.5
>
> Hi
> I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
> Upgrading the OS can be an option.
> Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
> This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.
>
> Hi,
> A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages
>
>
> Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day when I'll be able
> to upgrade kexi versions. The version I have right now is so dysfunctional.
> Any time the mouse crosses from the left side of the screen into the left
> side of the table, it makes the table jump to the top. This is endlessly
> frustrating and a huge waste of time. Say I am working in row #750, the
> mouse moves across the left border of the table and all of a sudden the
> table jumps to row#1. If there is any fix for this, please advise.
>
>
​All this was long ago fixed.​

​My advice is to upgrade the OS or install​ another copy in a virtual
machine or different computer. Regardless of availability of the Snap
packages, staying with outdated software on LTS platforms will be always a
compromise. It's not a problem for apps that do not evolve much anymore but
Kexi is actively developed and users are hungry for features :)

We'll be looking for a way when practically every week new updates appear
for Kexi.

-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

KDE:
: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
: and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
Calligra Suite:
: A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
Kexi:
: A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
Qt Certified Specialist:
: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-15 Thread Swarup



On 04/13/2016 03:29 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:


On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  wrote:

Hello there,
Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
later versions? I'm still stuck in--

Kexi Version 2.8.5

Hi
I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
Upgrading the OS can be an option.
Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages



Looks wonderful-- I am really looking forward to the day when I'll be 
able to upgrade kexi versions. The version I have right now is so 
dysfunctional. Any time the mouse crosses from the left side of the 
screen into the left side of the table, it makes the table jump to the 
top. This is endlessly frustrating and a huge waste of time. Say I am 
working in row #750, the mouse moves across the left border of the table 
and all of a sudden the table jumps to row#1. If there is any fix for 
this, please advise.




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Re: [Kexi] Kexi 2.9.11 released

2016-04-13 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 8 April 2016 at 19:54, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, 7 April 2016, Swarup  wrote:
>> Hello there,
>> Any improvements made in providing ability for Ubuntu users to upgrade to
>> later versions? I'm still stuck in--
>>
>> Kexi Version 2.8.5
>
> Hi
> I am sorry that ubuntu offers no such support for free software.
> Upgrading the OS can be an option.
> Or requesting support from ubuntu or someone who can develop a backport.
> This can be requested on an ubuntu forum.

Hi,
A modern way of distributing software may help us soon:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages

>> Swarup
>>
>>
>> On 02/03/2016 05:44 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Database apps builder Kexi 2.9.11 has been released with many cool
>> improvements, bug fixes and handy update for MS Access support:
>>
>> https://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-2-9-11-released/#kexi
>>
>>
>> To request new features or fixes for Kexi visit
>> https://www.bountysource.com/teams/kexi
>>
>> We're also looking for new contributors (and not just programmers).
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>
> KDE:
> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
> Calligra Suite:
> : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
> Kexi:
> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
> Qt Certified Specialist:
> : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek



-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

KDE:
: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
: and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
Calligra Suite:
: A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
Kexi:
: A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
Qt Certified Specialist:
: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
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