Re: [Kicad-developers] GAL canvas behavior.

I think the object should remain selected after the context menu is closed. But, right clicking on a *different* object should deselect the first one, select the new one, and then open the context menu on the newly selected item. There are many times that erroneously deselecting the first item wou

Re: [Kicad-developers] GAL canvas behavior.

(Sorry for the duplicate, Wayne. This time I replied all.) I much prefer that the selected objects remain selected. If the selection took precision, especially for multi-object additive multiple selection, then having to reselect even a subset is arduous. The addition of the extra "Esc" key requ

[Kicad-developers] GAL canvas behavior.

I've finally forced myself to start using the GAL canvas for new projects and I immediately ran into an unexpected behavior regarding context menus. If I right click on an object, it gets selected and the context menu for that object is shown as expected. If I change my mind and close the context

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior

> Perhaps the algorithm should be slightly modified to use the pad if the mouse cursor is inside a > pad, and the footprint origin if the mouse cursor is inside the footprint (obviously), but not > inside a pad.   Excellent idea, in combination with Simon Küppers suggestion to highlight the move o

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

Thank you Marcos! On 7/20/2017 12:04 PM, Marcos Chaparro wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh > wrote: > > Please file bug reports against these issues. > > > routing videos filed as bug report: > https://bugs.launchpad.net

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

Hi Wayne, On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Please file bug reports against these issues. routing videos filed as bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1705520 I tried to find a similar bug report without success, it could a be a duplicate The DRC was repo

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] simplied right click menu icons

cheers and sorry for the back and forth. Fabrizio On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > This look good to me. I'm fine with the unified menu icons. If no one > has any objections, I will commit it. > > On 7/20/2017 8:45 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote: > > Hi Wayne, > > how ar

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] simplied right click menu icons

This look good to me. I'm fine with the unified menu icons. If no one has any objections, I will commit it. On 7/20/2017 8:45 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote: > Hi Wayne, > how are you? > > very cool. I have changed this patch so that everywhere: > > "Rotate 90 deg CW" -> "Rotate Clockwise" > "Ro

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

Please file bug reports against these issues. Missing features may not be noticed during development so it's important if you find something that is missing to report it. I cannot guarantee that all of them will get fixed but I'm willing to bet that many of these issues the gal devs are not even

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

> On 20. Jul 2017, at 16:15, hauptmech wrote: > > The frequent mouse click drops I have not had time to understand enough to > file a bug report. Whether it is PNS event handling or the load put on the > system by PNS plus kicad or WX, I don't know. I can confirm that, I also noticed these dr

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] - Improved error messages

A lot of the error messages presented to the users are full of developer-only data, that often serves to confuse rather than help end users. However the developer data is great for bug reports and dev feedback. I have updated the DisplayErrorMessage and DisplayInfoMessage functions to have an extr

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

Hi Orson, I do agree that a single solution does not satisfy everyone, nor does it have to. I was just adding my voice to Heikki's that the PNS router does not quite handle some of the basic tasks that I am needing to do, that the legacy interface does handle. The details are complex, partia

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

A few things I remember when using nighties. * disable design rule checking button is ignored in GAL. I use it when I swap 2 pins in the schematic, I turn off drc, make the track change, then rebuild connectivity. Otherwise I end up deleting the whole track and starting over. * On legacy pressing

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

On 7/20/2017 6:04 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:47:50PM +0300, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: >> Hi Wayne >> >> Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should use gal canvas? Do not >> have to answer, just try to understand your politics. > > It's legacy because new tool

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:31:09PM +1200, hauptmech wrote: > > I'm with Heikki. I've been using the GAL canvas for a complex project. I > don't really have time to learn the nuances of the interactive router; I > found that highlight collisions kept it from doing stuff I did not want in > tight la

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

The legacy canvas is going to be removed after the v5 release so it would be a waste of time to implement the via tool in the legacy canvas only to have it removed a short time later. On 7/20/2017 5:47 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: > Hi Wayne > > Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should u

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior

I am also currently not up to speed on this topic. However, what could also benefit usability is to visually highlight the origin that is being used during the move operation (maybe a green dot or something). Am 20.07.2017 um 13:50 schrieb Lorenzo Marcantonio: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 01:44:06P

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 01:44:06PM +0200, jp charras wrote: > Perhaps the algorithm should be slightly modified to use the pad if the mouse > cursor is inside a > pad, and the footprint origin if the mouse cursor is inside the footprint > (obviously), but not > inside a pad. Uhm. That could be,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior

Hi Jean-Pierre, On 07/20/2017 01:44 PM, jp charras wrote: [snip] > > AFAIK, for me "old" issues related to the cursor and grid are fixed. > > AFAIK, when moving a single footprint, the anchor point is either one of its > pads or the footprint origin, the nearest candidate point from mouse cursor

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior

Le 20/07/2017 à 13:27, Maciej Sumiński a écrit : > On 07/20/2017 12:37 PM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:14:40PM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: >>> What do you exactly mean regarding the cursor behavior? >> >> For example the cursor moving on the grid and using space to ta

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

Hi hauptmech, On 07/20/2017 12:31 PM, hauptmech wrote: > > I'm with Heikki. I've been using the GAL canvas for a complex project. I > don't really have time to learn the nuances of the interactive router; I > found that highlight collisions kept it from doing stuff I did not want > in tight layou

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior

On 07/20/2017 12:37 PM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:14:40PM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: >> What do you exactly mean regarding the cursor behavior? > > For example the cursor moving on the grid and using space to take > measurement is way faster. AFAIK this is already

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior (was: Via tool in Pcbnew.)

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:14:40PM +0200, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > What do you exactly mean regarding the cursor behavior? For example the cursor moving on the grid and using space to take measurement is way faster. AFAIK this is already WIP. Also if you move a footprint in the GAL you use the po

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

I'm with Heikki. I've been using the GAL canvas for a complex project. I don't really have time to learn the nuances of the interactive router; I found that highlight collisions kept it from doing stuff I did not want in tight layouts and I fall back to legacy for things like tweaking track n

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cursor behavior (was: Via tool in Pcbnew.)

Hi Lorenzo, On 07/20/2017 12:04 PM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: [snip] > However before junking it *please* implement everything on the new one > (like the cursor behaviour which is way more useful to measure than the > new tool in the GAL view) What do you exactly mean regarding the cursor behavi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:47:50PM +0300, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: > Hi Wayne > > Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should use gal canvas? Do not > have to answer, just try to understand your politics. It's legacy because new tools are not available for it, like the P&S router However b

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

Hi Wayne Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should use gal canvas? Do not have to answer, just try to understand your politics. Regards Heikki On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Heikki, > > I'm not suggesting that we add the new via tool to the legacy canvas. >