Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Rene Pöschl
Something else that i remembered now. Would it be a good idea to prepare for alternative function handling for pins? Meaning an alternative pin name connected to an alternative type (or a number of these) That would allow better symbols for micro controllers. I do not expect this to be

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Rene Pöschl
On 04/01/19 15:10, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: Is there a way to mark a unit as "power unit" (I think you mentioned sometime back that this might be required to properly make simulation for multi unit symbols possible while still allowing the power unit to be separate. A power unit would also be a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Brian Piccioni
Tom Thank you so much for the offer! My code is here: https://github.com/BrianAtDocumentedDesigns/RenumKicadPCB It needs to be seriously reworked in order to incorporate into Kicad because of the way it works. I read in the project sch, pcb, and netlist files. I scan the PCB file and create a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Brian Piccioni
Will do! Thanks for the advice. I have a general idea about buttons, etc., from a basic knowledge of HTML but Wxwidgets sure seems to permeate Kicad. The good news is I have solved the geographical annotation problem before so it is more a question of implementing it in a manner

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 04/01/2019 18:51, Brian Piccioni wrote: > I am still keen to attempt to incorporate geographical component annotation > into KiCad. In general, it is preferable for component annotation to be done > relative to the PCB and in some logical order (left/right, top to bottom, > etc). Thereafter

Re: [Kicad-developers] "Fuzzy" antialiasing in eeschema

2019-01-04 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 04/01/2019 03:14, Alex Lockwood wrote: > I know this is solidly within in realm of minor complaints, but I > wonder, is there anything "easy" that can be done about this? > > https://misc.c4757p.com/fuzzy-wires.png Hi Alex, It's a common artifact in MSAA (which was designed for games, not

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Andrew Lutsenko
Hi Brian, If you don't have experience with c++ and GUI code in general I would suggest you start by familiarizing yourself with wxwidgets framework that KiCad is built on http://wxwidgets.org/docs/tutorials/ A lot of KiCad code will make more sense once you understand GUI threading and event

Re: [Kicad-developers] "Fuzzy" antialiasing in eeschema

2019-01-04 Thread Seth Hillbrand
Am 2019-01-03 23:09, schrieb Seth Hillbrand: Am 2019-01-03 22:42, schrieb Alex Lockwood: Ah, clearly I didn't do a very great job of looking for bug reports. Thank you. I wonder whether we could switch to a different antialiasing scheme, or tweak this one? The antialiased fonts on my system,

Re: [Kicad-developers] pcbnew startup from clean

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
John, AFAICT, this fixes the issue so I pushed your patch. Thanks, Wayne On 1/4/19 9:11 AM, John Beard wrote: > Hi Alexis, > > Sorry about that - it's been on my list for a while. I misunderstood > how the GAL inits without config. Hopefully this will work. Patch > attached: the upshot is

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Simon, On 1/2/19 8:39 PM, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > On 02.01.19 23:20, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >>> This would be an artificial unit for the file format, not necessarily >>> the true internal unit (which I want to unify across the entire program >>> as soon as feasible, but that

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I'm willing to add properties which are already defined to pins. There has been talk about adding about adding electrical constraints for advance ERC testing to symbols but that will not be part of the v6 implementation of the new file format. It's going to be a lot of work to implement the

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I'm willing to add properties which are already defined to pins. There has been talk about adding about adding electrical constraints for advance ERC testing to symbols but that will not be part of the v6 implementation of the new file format. It's going to be a lot of work to implement the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Brian Piccioni
Seth Thank you so much for the prompt response and encouragement. For those who are unaware, when a board is being debugged you typically look at the schematic and need to find the relevant component. If the PCB is numbered geographically this is much easier to do than if the board simply

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Andy Peters
On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Brian Piccioni wrote: > > I am still keen to attempt to incorporate geographical component annotation > into KiCad. In general, it is preferable for component annotation to be done > relative to the PCB and in some logical order (left/right, top to bottom, > etc).

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Seth Hillbrand
Am 2019-01-04 12:51, schrieb Brian Piccioni: I am still keen to attempt to incorporate geographical component annotation into KiCad. This could be an interesting feature. I'll be keen to see what you come up with. The first thing I want to do is to add the ability for eeSchema to import a

[Kicad-developers] Hoping to contribute but I have some questions

2019-01-04 Thread Brian Piccioni
I am still keen to attempt to incorporate geographical component annotation into KiCad. In general, it is preferable for component annotation to be done relative to the PCB and in some logical order (left/right, top to bottom, etc). Thereafter this information is imported to the schematic. I

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Mário Luzeiro
> Now if you create a unique part number for every > resistance value, tolerance, temperature coefficient, manufacturer, etc. > that would be tens if not hundreds of thousands of unique part numbers. I know my intervention may be a bit offtopic, but it may add some other elements to discussion:

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Kristoffer
Yes you are right Wayne, Its just that i believe an IDF like protobuf would ease the development of such a feature/file-format, the tools around such a feature and allow for a better overall iteration of such a feature/fileformat. That is why i even mentioned it here, because since we are

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Hi Kristoffer, On 1/4/2019 10:24 AM, Kristoffer wrote: > On 2019-01-04 15:03, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >> I can somewhat see the utility in this but it really doesn't make a lot >> of sense to me.  Lets assume for a second that it would be useful to >> create a separate atomic part for every

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Kristoffer
On 2019-01-04 15:03, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: I can somewhat see the utility in this but it really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Lets assume for a second that it would be useful to create a separate atomic part for every 0603 resistor part number currently available. Given that the 0603

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Pcbnew unit test framework

2019-01-04 Thread John Beard
Hi, I have worked out how to do unit tests of the Pcbnew code. The first example test is a pretty unexciting one about the import plugin manager (which is what I was doing at the time). This is followed by a fix for a minor 5.1 bug with a unit test on the logic (numbered NPTH pads in arrays)

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 1/2/2019 8:24 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote: > I have a few questions regarding multi part (or multi unit) symbols. (I > do not really see a clear indication for these features in your document.) > > Is there a definition for having only some units exchangeable? This is provided by the extends

Re: [Kicad-developers] pcbnew startup from clean

2019-01-04 Thread John Beard
Hi Alexis, Sorry about that - it's been on my list for a while. I misunderstood how the GAL inits without config. Hopefully this will work. Patch attached: the upshot is that legacy should never even be tried in a blank-config startup now, even if the platform supports it (as this will be the

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 1/2/2019 2:55 PM, Vesa Solonen wrote: > kristoffer Ödmark kirjoitti 2.1.2019 klo 12.32: > >> I would rather have a new atomic file-format or storage format, so one >> could actually send a complete part in an easy way, that would include >> 3D-Files, SPICE data, symbol and footprints, and it

[Kicad-developers] Fwd: [RFC] Symbol library file format

2019-01-04 Thread John Beard
Sorry - forwarding to the list. That's what happens when I do emails too late! -- Forwarded message - From: Andrew Lutsenko Date: Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Symbol library file format To: John Beard Sorry, link to github: